VIDEO FULL VIDEO: Michael Yon on Afghanistan, Immigration, DHS & Civil War

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LINK TO FULL VIDEO: Shared post - FULL VIDEO: Michael Yon on Afghanistan, Immigration, DHS & Civil War (locals.com)
War Correspondent Michael Yon shares his thoughts on the drawdown in Afghanistan, immigrants dying on their way through the Panama jungle, and why he believes the USA is headed for civil war. Follow Michael on Locals!
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rob0126

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Shared post - FULL VIDEO: Michael Yon on Afghanistan, Immigration, DHS & Civil War (locals.com)

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August 15, 2021


LINK TO FULL VIDEO: Shared post - FULL VIDEO: Michael Yon on Afghanistan, Immigration, DHS & Civil War (locals.com)
War Correspondent Michael Yon shares his thoughts on the drawdown in Afghanistan, immigrants dying on their way through the Panama jungle, and why he believes the USA is headed for civil war. Follow Michael on Locals!
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Squib

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Thank you for making this available.

Watched much of it, the guy seems to know what’s going on…

Id bet the US leadership also know, but we always assume they want to ‘win’, or achieve a stated goal, then we’re confused when they don’t.

The reason just may be that TPTB do achieve their goals, the goals are just not what we think they are…

Much money is made, careers made, business empires rise, shadow gov. families remake the global map as they wish it to be…

So, here we are, just thinking it’s about ‘Merica! Or the little guy gaining freedom…it’s not…never was.
 
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Dozdoats

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Michael Yon is a former Special Forces soldier turned freelance (war) reporter. Lately he has been covering illegals coming up toward America through Panama (the Darien) from all over the world.

This is known as INTEL. Boots on the ground intel. With film.

Yon's name alone ought to suffice ............... (cluebat)
 

artichoke

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Michael Yon is a former Special Forces soldier turned freelance (war) reporter. Lately he has been covering illegals coming up toward America through Panama (the Darien) from all over the world.

This is known as INTEL. Boots on the ground intel. With film.

Yon's name alone ought to suffice ............... (cluebat)
He's covering the Darien Gap? That's enough to make me go thru signing up for locals.com. Is it a free channel?
 

Walrus

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He's covering the Darien Gap? That's enough to make me go thru signing up for locals.com. Is it a free channel?
Michael Yon is as solid as it gets. He's been the best war correspondent since Ernie Pyle imho. Anyway, he's always in need of moola and does have a Patreon channel which probably receives more updates than anyplace else.

ETA: He's covered the Darien Gap earlier - around the first of the year IIRC. He flits around from hot spot to hot spot pretty quickly.
 

Techwreck

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Wow, that's a whole lot of reality that you won't see or hear on the nightly news.
What a contrast to the dressed up narrative pushers infesting the mainstream.

It seems like there are 2 Americas.
One with real working people who seek truth, have a sense of right and wrong, and believe in something larger than themselves.
One with people who are enriched by pretending, and spinning a version of reality that suits their all-important feelings and delusions, and proclaim themselves "woke".
 

artichoke

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Any summary notes?
around 15:00 he's talking about all the road bridges it would take to connect isolated settlements in Afghanistan.

And I'm thinking -- how did that ever become our problem? It's their country, let them fix it as they like. Why would we go in there, disrupt their Pashtun (majority) culture, and build them all this stuff that they will never pay us for and might not even want? (Or if they do want it, so what?)
 

Dozdoats

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Go back and LISTEN. He is talking about how unrealistic it is to try and impose western standards/concepts/ideas there, and illustrating how far removed A'stan is from all that. Not saying they need or want it.
 

Squib

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He is talking about how unrealistic it is to try and impose western standards/concepts/ideas there, and illustrating how far removed A'stan is from all that. Not saying they need or want it.

Exactly, it’s amazing that the average westerner doesn’t understand that. I remember when Bush kept on harping about spreading democracy and freedom everywhere…I was shaking my head in disbelief! Who said they wanted any of that?

Why is imposing any ideology on tribal people half a world away worth a drop of our sons’ blood, trillions of dollars, and the lives of said savages?

That’s why I posted what I did earlier…it’s not about any of those things…those things are just “the Noble Lie” ‘they’ tell to cover their true agenda from naive Americans.
 

Walrus

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Go back and LISTEN. He is talking about how unrealistic it is to try and impose western standards/concepts/ideas there, and illustrating how far removed A'stan is from all that. Not saying they need or want it.
And he's correct, too. Padre Peter had some thoughts along this line today as he published a guest post:

The triumph of tribe over nation-state

The triumph of tribe over nation-state


Anyone who's lived or worked in a tribal environment understands what's going on in Afghanistan right now. To old Africa hands like Lawdog and myself, it's "deja vu all over again", to coin a phrase.
Daniel Greenberg puts it nicely in perspective.


The Afghan army, like its Iraqi counterpart, was a wholly artificial western institution. When faced with a tribal crisis, its members revert to their first duty, which is going to the defense of their tribe.
The Afghan army didn't "surrender".
Its Pashtun members surrendered to the Taliban who are fellow Pashtuns. Hazaras fled to Iran and took our equipment with them for the benefit of Hezbollah, the Houthis, and any other Shiite terrorists. The Uzbeks fled to Uzbekistan.
There's no Afghanistan. It's a collection of tribes whose members are loyal to their own.
The only group invested in Afghanistan, aside from the State Department, are the Pashtuns.
But the Taliban are a much more effective Pashtun bid for taking over the country than the pathetic shambles of a free and democratic Afghanistan.
And for those tribes and subtribes who want to resist the Taliban, they'll do so because they oppose that particular tribe by siding with their tribe and the warlords leading the fight. They won't do so while wearing army uniforms or toting around a lot of our equipment which we thought was absolutely vital to a modern armed force, which the locals aren't culturally compatible with, but is not especially useful for raiding tactics, which the locals are quite good at.
The Afghan army didn't surrender. Much of it never existed. The parts that did exist rejoined their tribes and are waiting for the next move which will come as the Taliban overextends itself and gets too deep in bed with the Chinese.
Our inability to understand this was the problem all along.
We insisted on building up an imaginary military for an imaginary nation. The whole farce collapsed the moment we decamped because there was no longer anything holding it together.
The people we wrongly call the Afghans reverted to who they had been all along before we demanded that they adopt the same political trappings in which we dress our political system.
Our system works well enough for us, or at least, as Churchill put it, less badly than any other system.
But the Afghans are not Americans. They're not in it for democracy or human rights. What they want is to gain power through their tribe, their subtribe, their family, and their chosen bosses.
That's what the war was about for 75% of them. It's what the endless war will be about going forward.
Afghanistan is in a perpetual state of tribal warfare. We never understood that and to the extent that we did, we tried to apply solutions that the locals didn't want and weren't especially interested in.
Now that we're gone, the forever war will continue without our overlay of myths and illusions.


There's more at the link.
However, those tribes are now going to be extraordinarily well armed with the latest Western technology - so much so that they'll be able to supply terrorist movements like Al Qaeda or ISIS with as much as they want, courtesy of the US taxpayer. We left literally tens of billions of dollars' worth of weapons, ammunition, vehicles, aircraft and electronics in Afghanistan, including thermal imaging night sights, anti-tank man-portable missiles, "smart" bombs and missiles, and the like. The Taliban certainly won't need them for internal use - so guess where they're going to end up? Uh-huh. Payback's a bitch.
My "spider sense" for internal terrorism in the USA just got ratcheted up several notches. It'll be child's play for terrorists to smuggle such weapons across our almost unguarded southern border . . . and then hell's coming to breakfast.
Peter
 

Dozdoats

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I got the brass at work POed at me for always answering "Pipeline routes and poppies" whenever someone asked why we were in A'stan years ago.
 

artichoke

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Go back and LISTEN. He is talking about how unrealistic it is to try and impose western standards/concepts/ideas there, and illustrating how far removed A'stan is from all that. Not saying they need or want it.
I was thinking along the lines of: in the US we would build those bridges. So by bringing in our culture, it sounded like he was implying we'd have to build some stuff like that.

We agree it's not our job.
 

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Michael Yon also has a channel on Locals, Michael Yon

Locals was started/owned by Dave Rubin, so folks would have a place to host videos & comments without censure. Yon stated on his channel, he is moving everything from Patreon to locals.

Some good stuff there, a place I can check frequently, as time allows.
 
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