jward
passin' thru
the speed of the cars didn't seem to increase- although I found myself praying so desperately that they'd just go faster and be safe- knowing of course whatever fate befell them had already been set into motion. : (
BRKG Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore has collapsed
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jward
passin' thru
only thing new I heard was that they had dropped port side anchor, which will speak, I assume, to the degree of control they did or did not have w/ the loss o' power- this is "ship guys" first thoughts, he'll handle the implications in a bit, after further review; as we see, ship lost power- the hows and whys to be determined.
Sal Mercogliano (WGOW Shipping)
@mercoglianos
Ship Lost Power Before Hitting Key Bridge in Baltimore
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZbUXewlQDk
Sal Mercogliano (WGOW Shipping)
@mercoglianos
Ship Lost Power Before Hitting Key Bridge in Baltimore
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Dobbin
Faithful Steed
This may be like the Hyatt Regency "Skyway" where design was so "close" that failure of one support created a cascading failure of all the other supports.
Owner says "defense in depth." And "overbuilding is not a bad thing in the long term scheme of things."
Dobbin
psychgirl
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It looked like a cascading collapse.
Almost like an accordion crumbling
Macgyver
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Someone inside a car might not have heard it or realized what was going on, I'm more referring to the dot workers.
psychgirl
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….how horrible a thought
Those water temps***
Being trapped under water
What is the name of the river/water?
I missed that part
***nvm…i just found it
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
I agree, absent any other information at this time and obviously it's damned fluid out there. Sometimes a Cigar is just a CIgar, those container ships have a huge sail area and if they are without power, they are helpless to maneuver
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
I hope other ports are watching transits like a hawk.
phloydius
Veteran Member
From video:
Lost power, twice.
Dropped port anchor to try to stop, but was ineffective because it was at speed.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZbUXewlQDk
Run Time 6 mins.
Lost power, twice.
Dropped port anchor to try to stop, but was ineffective because it was at speed.
Run Time 6 mins.
Technically the Patapsco River...but it's right next to the Chesapeake Bay.….how horrible a thought
Those water temps***
Being trapped under water
What is the name of the river/water?
I missed that part
psychgirl
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desertvet2
Veteran Member
Whatever the cause, the effect is because of piss poor planning.
Our nation walks the planet with a bick stick and leaves its lands and people at serious disadvantage were there ever to be a REAL attack(s).
Ship MAY HAVE BEEN hacked.
Can you see how easy it will be to stop the machine Mr. Rearden?
Our nation walks the planet with a bick stick and leaves its lands and people at serious disadvantage were there ever to be a REAL attack(s).
Ship MAY HAVE BEEN hacked.
Can you see how easy it will be to stop the machine Mr. Rearden?
psychgirl
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That possibility is still in back of my mind.
Capt. Eddie
Veteran Member
Having been driving a ship that went dark ship unintentionally while underway the most likely scenario to me is:
Generator failure
Emergency generator automatically kicks in
Emergency generator fails
Bang
Most likely causes in my experience
A> Contaminated fuel
B> Improper fuel valve alignment in engine room
C> Something automated shutting fuel valves
There are very few more helpless feelings than loosing power and propulsion while underway. Fortunately when it happened to me we were in the middle of the Gulf with no platforms around to hit. If we would have been in close proximity to anything we probably would have hit it. There's really nothing you can do without steerage other than drop an anchor, which they did.
I would bet my paycheck it's legit accident. IF it was sabotage I'd look at the fuel. Wonder if they bunkered (took on fuel) in Baltimore. There would be potential for sabotaging the fuel at that point. Other than that I'd chalk it up to the capricious nature of the sea.
YMMV
Generator failure
Emergency generator automatically kicks in
Emergency generator fails
Bang
Most likely causes in my experience
A> Contaminated fuel
B> Improper fuel valve alignment in engine room
C> Something automated shutting fuel valves
There are very few more helpless feelings than loosing power and propulsion while underway. Fortunately when it happened to me we were in the middle of the Gulf with no platforms around to hit. If we would have been in close proximity to anything we probably would have hit it. There's really nothing you can do without steerage other than drop an anchor, which they did.
I would bet my paycheck it's legit accident. IF it was sabotage I'd look at the fuel. Wonder if they bunkered (took on fuel) in Baltimore. There would be potential for sabotaging the fuel at that point. Other than that I'd chalk it up to the capricious nature of the sea.
YMMV
danielboon
TB Fanatic
128 days
March 26, 2024 - August 1, 2024 if your into numbers
The 1,000ft (299m) vessel, which was bound for Colombo, Sri Lanka, steadies itself in the middle of the Patapsco River and slows before colliding with the bridge near Fort Carroll at 01:28am, collapsing it. Francis Scott Keys birthday was august 1st 1779
northern watch
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northern watch
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Was P Diddy on that bridge?
toxic avenger
Senior Member
Leaving. It happened about 20 minutes after departure.
Leaving port.
Capt. Eddie
Veteran Member
Which also lends itself to fuel being the issue. Most ships burn "bunker oil" when at sea, but low sulfer diesel in and around port. Diesel burns cleaner (for emissions) and gives slightly more power, but it's more expensive. Ships have large bunker oil tanks but much smaller diesel "day tanks" for in and around Port.
bw
Fringe Ranger
They would have been at pretty low RPMs in the harbor. The engines don't switch on and off quickly. And without power they couldn't answer helm.
bw
Fringe Ranger
They may have been dropping anchors as a last-ditch effort.
northern watch
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Capt. Eddie
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psychgirl
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Many more will be stuck, I’d imagine.
What kind of ships go through there?
I’m sorry if a stupid question.
I’m wondering about essential supplies getting through?
But first, let’s get those people rescued!!
There is going to be a slew of unexpected fallout from this.
Fair Use Cited
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After Francis Scott Key Bridge collapses into river, Baltimore residents "can't believe it's gone"
By Rohan Mattu
Updated on: March 26, 2024 / 7:33 AM EDT / CBS Baltimore
BALTIMORE -- Witnesses could not believe their eyes early Tuesday morning, looking at where the Francis Scott Key Memorial Bridge once spanned the Patapsco River. The span collapsed in the water below overnight. Rescue efforts are underway after several vehicles fell into the frigid water.
A large container ship was believed to have struck a column of the bridge around 1:30 a.m., fire department spokesman Kevin Cartwright said. There are at least seven people but up to 20 people in the water and a mass casualty response is underway.
'Can't believe it's gone'
A witness told WJZ's Mike Hellgren the sound accompanying the collapse was massive, shaking his home.
"Earthquake - sounded like a big bash of thunder," the resident said. "And then just like I said it felt like an earthquake, the whole house vibrated. Like my house was falling down."
The resident said he never thought in his "wildest dreams" he would see something like this happen.
"I've been in this neighborhood 57 years, I remembered when they built this bridge," he said. "Can't believe it's gone."
Another resident speculated about the possible implications of the crash.
"This is going to be catastrophic for many reasons," he said. "Number one, the harbor's blocked. Number two, we're not going to get any more new car deliveries at this time. Amazon is just on the other side of the river and you can forget your same-day, next-day delivery packages. The beltway is going to be a parking lot. The tunnels are going to be over-jammed."
"I was there yesterday," another resident told WJZ, a thought surely shared by many Tuesday morning. "To see the bridge gone knowing I was on that bridge not even 10 hours ago - it's devastating."
Francis Scott Key Bridge
The Francis Scott Key Bridge bridge spans the Patapsco River and is a link of I-695. Officials say commuters should take I-95 or I-895 on Tuesday morning.
Officials said the Anne Arundel County Fire Department, the Baltimore County Fire Department , the Maryland Department of the Environment and the Maryland Transit Authority are among the agencies responding to the incident.
The 1.6-mile-long bridge, named for the author of the Star Spangled Banner, opened in 1977 and is one of three toll crossings of Baltimore's Harbor, according to the MDTA.
www.cbsnews.com
Fair Use Cited
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After Francis Scott Key Bridge collapses into river, Baltimore residents "can't believe it's gone"
By Rohan Mattu
Updated on: March 26, 2024 / 7:33 AM EDT / CBS Baltimore
BALTIMORE -- Witnesses could not believe their eyes early Tuesday morning, looking at where the Francis Scott Key Memorial Bridge once spanned the Patapsco River. The span collapsed in the water below overnight. Rescue efforts are underway after several vehicles fell into the frigid water.
A large container ship was believed to have struck a column of the bridge around 1:30 a.m., fire department spokesman Kevin Cartwright said. There are at least seven people but up to 20 people in the water and a mass casualty response is underway.
'Can't believe it's gone'
A witness told WJZ's Mike Hellgren the sound accompanying the collapse was massive, shaking his home.
"Earthquake - sounded like a big bash of thunder," the resident said. "And then just like I said it felt like an earthquake, the whole house vibrated. Like my house was falling down."
The resident said he never thought in his "wildest dreams" he would see something like this happen.
"I've been in this neighborhood 57 years, I remembered when they built this bridge," he said. "Can't believe it's gone."
Another resident speculated about the possible implications of the crash.
"This is going to be catastrophic for many reasons," he said. "Number one, the harbor's blocked. Number two, we're not going to get any more new car deliveries at this time. Amazon is just on the other side of the river and you can forget your same-day, next-day delivery packages. The beltway is going to be a parking lot. The tunnels are going to be over-jammed."
"I was there yesterday," another resident told WJZ, a thought surely shared by many Tuesday morning. "To see the bridge gone knowing I was on that bridge not even 10 hours ago - it's devastating."
Francis Scott Key Bridge
The Francis Scott Key Bridge bridge spans the Patapsco River and is a link of I-695. Officials say commuters should take I-95 or I-895 on Tuesday morning.
Officials said the Anne Arundel County Fire Department, the Baltimore County Fire Department , the Maryland Department of the Environment and the Maryland Transit Authority are among the agencies responding to the incident.
The 1.6-mile-long bridge, named for the author of the Star Spangled Banner, opened in 1977 and is one of three toll crossings of Baltimore's Harbor, according to the MDTA.
After Francis Scott Key Bridge collapses into river, Baltimore residents "can't believe it's gone"
Witnesses could not believe their eyes early Tuesday morning, looking at where the Francis Scott Key Memorial Bridge once spanned the Patapsco River.
www.cbsnews.com