EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration?

mt4design

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November 13, 2008
EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama's Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions

By Debbie Schlussel

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/

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Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him?

It's either one or the other, as indicated by the release of Barack Obama's official Selective Service registration for the draft. A friend of mine, who is a retired federal agent, spent almost a year trying to obtain this document through a Freedom of Information Act request, and, after much stonewalling, finally received it and released it to me.

But the release of Obama's draft registration and an accompanying document, posted below, raises more questions than it answers. And it shows many signs of fraud, not to mention putting the lie to Obama's claim that he registered for the draft in June 1979, before it was required by law.

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The official campaign for President may be over. But Barack Obama's Selective Service registration card and accompanying documents show that questions about him are not only NOT over, but if the signature on the document is in fact his, our next Commander-in-Chief may have committed a federal crime in 2008, well within the statute of limitations on the matter. If it is not his, then it's proof positive that our next Commander-in-Chief never registered with the Selective Service as required by law. By law, he was required to register and was legally able to do so until the age of 26.

But the Selective Service System registration ("SSS Form 1") and accompanying computer print-out ("SSS Print-out), below, released by the Selective Service show the following oddities and irregularities, all of which indicate the document was created in 2008 and backdated:

* Document Location Number Indicates Obama Selective Service Form was Created in 2008

First, there is the Document Location Number (DLN) on the form. In the upper right hand corner of the Selective Service form SSS Form 1, there is the standard Bates-stamped DLN, in this case "0897080632," which I've labeled as "A" on both the SSS Form and the computer printout document. On the form, it reflects a 2008 creation.

As the retired federal agent notes:

Having worked for the Federal Government for several decades, I know that the standardization of DLNs have the first two digits of the DLN representing the year of issue. That would mean that this DLN was issued in 2008. The DLN on the computer screen printout is the exact same number, except the 0 and 8 have changed positions making it a 1980 DLN number. And 1980 is the year Senator/President Elect Obama is said to have timely registered. So, why does the machine-stamped DLN reflect this year (2008) and the DLN in the database (which was manually input) reflect a "corrected" DLN year of 1980? Were all the DLNs issued in 1980 erroneously marked with a 2008 DLN year or does the Selective Service use a different DLN system then the rest of the Federal Government? Or was the SSS Form 1 actually processed in 2008 and not 1980?

It's quite a "coincidence" . . . that is, if you believe in coincidences, especially in this case.

Far more likely is that someone made up a fake Selective Service registration to cover Obama's lack of having done so, and that the person stamping the form forgot (or was unable to) change the year to "80" instead of the current "80". They either forgot to fake the DLN number or couldn't do so.

And guess where the Selective Service registrations are marked and recorded? Lucky for Obama, it's his native Chicago. From an article entitled, "Post Office Registration Process", on the Selective Service website:

When a young man reaches 18 he can go to any of the 35,000 post offices nationwide to register with Selective Service. There he completes a simple registration card and mails it to the Selective Service System. This begins a multi-step process which results in the man's registration.

Each week approximately 6,000 completed registration cards are sent to the Selective Service System's Data Management System (DMC) near Chicago, Ill. At the DMC these cards are grouped into manageable quantities. Each card is then microfilmed and stamped with a sequential document locator number. The processed microfilm is reviewed to account for all documents and to ensure that the film quality is within strict standards. After microfilming, the cards are keyed and then verified by a different data transcriber.

The Document Locator Number (DLN) is an automatic function (Selective Service record-keeping, specifically the DLN is described on pages 7-8 of this Federal Register document), with the first two digits comprising the year, and it was not changed to "08" in error. So if the form was filed and processed in 1980, how did it get a 2008 DLN?!

* Obama's Selective Service Registration Form is Apparently 1990 Form Altered to Appear Like 1980 Form

On the SSS Form 1, in the lower left hand corner is the form number (SSS Form 1) and the month and year version of the form, labeled as "B". On this particular Form 1, it clearly shows the month as "FEB" (February), and the year is either "80" or "90". The retired federal agent investigated further:

Magnification of the form both physically (with a 10x glass) or with different image software does not reflect a clear cut result of either a "80" or a "90".

But, checking the history of SSS Form 1 (see http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/PRAViewICR?ref_nbr=198002-3240-001#), it's apparent that in February 1980, the Selective Service agency withdrew a "Request for a new OMB control number" for SSS Form 1 (see also, here)--meaning the agency canceled its previous request for a new form, and one was never issued in "FEB 1980".

Since under the Paperwork Reduction Act of 1980, Pub. L. No. 96-511, 94 Stat. 2812 (Dec. 11, 1980), codified in part at Subchapter I of Chapter 35 of Title 44 a federal agency can not use a form not approved by OMB (Office of Management and Budget), it's nearly impossible for Senator/President-Elect Obama's SSS Form 1 to be dated "Feb 1980." And since that makes it almost certainly dated "Feb 1990," then how could Barack Obama sign it and the postal clerk stamp it almost ten (10) years before its issue?! Simply not possible.

The lower right hand corner reflects that the Obama SSS form 1 was approved by OMB with an approval number of 19??0002, labeled as "C". The double question marks (??) reflect digits that are not completely clear.

* Barack Obama's Signature is Dated After Postal Stamp Certifying His Signature

Barack H. Obama signed the SSS Form 1's "Today's date" as July 30, 1980, labeled "D". But the Postal Stamp reflects the PREVIOUS day's date of July 29, 1980, labeled "E". Yes, Obama could have mistakenly written the wrong date, but it is rare and much more unlikely for someone to put a future date than a past date. (Also note how Barry made such a "cute" peace sign with the "b" inside the "O" of his signature. Touching.)

* Postal Stamp is Incorrect, Discontinued in 1970

Then, there is the question as to whether the Postal Stamp is real. The "postmark" stamp--labeled "E"--is hard to read, but it is clear that at the bottom is "USPO" which stands typically for United States Post Office. However, current "postmark" validator, registry, or round dater stamps (item 570 per the Postal Operations Manual) shows "USPS" for United States Postal Service. The change from Post Office to Postal Service occurred on August 12, 1970, when President Nixon signed into law the most comprehensive postal legislation since the founding of the Republic--Public Law 91-375. The new Postal Service officially began operations on July 1, 1971.

Why was an old, obsolete postmark round dater stamp used almost ten (10) years after the fact to validate a legal document . . . that just happened to be Barack Obama's suspicious Selective Service registration form?

* Form Shows Barack Obama didn't have ID

The SSS Form 1 states "NO ID", labeled "F". Since that's the case, then how did the Hawaiian postal clerk know that the submitter was really Barack H. Obama, who may have been on summer break from attending Occidental College in California. How would they determine whether the registrant was truly registering and not a relative, friend, or other imposter?

* The Selective Service Data Mgt. Center Stonewalled for Almost a Year on Obama Registration, Until Right Before the Election.

The retired federal agent who FOIA'd Barack Obama's Selective Service Registration Form notes:

Early this year, when I first started questioning whether Obama registered I was told:

Sir: There may be an error in his file or many other reasons why his registration cannot be confirmed on-line. However, I did confirm with our Data Management Center that he is, indeed, registered with the Selective Service System, in compliance with Federal law.

Sincerely,

Janice L. Hughes/SSS

Then, they suddenly found the record on September 9, 2008 (prior to my October 13, 2008 request), and stated that his record was filed on September 4, 1980. Did they temporarily change the date on the computer database?

On the previous FOIA response, they stated that it was filed on September 4, 1980. In my second request I mentioned that Obama could not have filed it in Hawaii on September 4, 1980 as he was attending Occidental College in California, the classes of which commenced August 24, 1980.

* Other Questions: Missing Selective Service Number, FOIA Response Dated Prior to FOIA Request, Missing Printout Page

Where is Obama's Selective Service number (61-1125539-1) on the card?

And the retired federal agent notes that the Selective Service Data Management Center prepared its response to his FOIA request prior to the request having been made:

The last transaction date is 09/04/80 [DS: labeled "G"], but the date of the printout is 09/09/08 [DS: labeled "H"]. My FOIA was dated October 13 so why did they prepare the printout BEFORE I submitted my FOIA? I gave them no "heads up" that I was sending it. In fact it was not mailed until late October--around the 25th.

Also, notice the printout was page 1 of 2 [DS: labeled "I"].

Hmmm . . . where is the other page, and what's on it?

A lot of questions here. And a lot of huge hints that this government-released, official Barack Obama Selective Service registration was faked. Either he signed the fake backdated document, or someone else faked his signature and he never registered for the draft (and lied about it).

Which is it?

It's incredible that our impending Commander-in-Chief either didn't register for the draft or did so belatedly and fraudulently.

The documents indicate it's one or the other.

*** UPDATE: Here's another irregularity that points to fraud, as spotted by reader Joyce:

My husband printed the information provided on your web site regarding Barack Obama's Selective Service registration discrepancies. I noticed that the DLN number in upper right corner (labeled "A") has only ten (10) digits with the first two being 08 , but the DLN number shown on the computer screen printout has eleven (11) digits with the first two being 80. It clearly indicates that the "8" was added at the beginning of the DLN number, in order to appear that it was issued in 1980 and wasn't simply a reversal of the first two digits as the retired federal agent noted. This in itself appears questionable. I would think there is a standard number of digits in all DLN numbers.
 
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mt4design

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I just find it interesting that when ever some information that Obama had previously tried to keep hidden comes out, it only increases the number of questions rather than puts the issue to rest.

There is a reason why his records have been sealed.

Mike
 

CelticRose

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I just find it interesting that when ever some information that Obama had previously tried to keep hidden comes out, it only increases the number of questions rather than puts the issue to rest.

There is a reason why his records have been sealed.

Mike

His records are sealed by HIS choice.....

And for good reason........

Beyond the questions of his true nationality........ Beyond if and why he had an Indonesian passport and what counties he visited .........

Beyond his school records and any and all college aide or scholarships.....

His 'history' has been and is and will be, written and re-written to create the image he and his handlers want.

Period.

And the greater the myth of 'Bama-man Hussein, the more his slavering, drooling, myth-worshipping masses, adore their 'chosen one'........... :kk1:

I'm still waiting to hear his mothers' conception was immaculate andthere was a star rising in the east at his birth ...........
 
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Sully

Veteran Member
His records are sealed by HIS choice.....

And for good reason........

Beyond the questions of his true nationality........ Beyond if and why he had an Indonesian passport and what counties he visited .........

Beyond his school records and any and all college aide or scholarships.....

His 'history' has been and is and will be, written and re-written to create the image he and his handlers want.

Period.

And the greater the myth of 'Bama-man Hussein, the more his slavering, drooling, myth-worshipping masses, adore their 'chosen one'........... :kk1:

I'm still waiting to hear his mothers' conception was immaculate andthere was a star rising in the east at his birth ...........


What I don't understand about all the issues connected with him is..Why hasn't someone found the proof that's needed to expose him? Is he and his 'associates' so powerful that nothing or no one can touch him? SOMEONE in the gov. should be able to get the documents needed. We The Peoplle want to know WHO our future president is!

Sully
 

lojoma

Veteran Member
I hate Obama and all he stands for, but when an adoption of a minor child occurs, the original birth certificate is sealed unless there is good cause shown to unseal it. So, is the original BC sealed because he was adopted?
 

fruit loop

Inactive
Oh, puh-leeze.

You can't get student loans, or even attend college, unless you've registered. In some states you have to register when you apply for your driver's license.

I wouldn't care if he WASN'T registered. I'm against the draft, and against mandatory registration for it.
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Debbie Schlussel.....there's a solid, objective source of information.

And there's a quick way to deflect from the information contained within.

Read the article... the "source" is a retired federal agent who is the one who filed the FOIA request for the document.

Mike
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I hate Obama and all he stands for, but when an adoption of a minor child occurs, the original birth certificate is sealed unless there is good cause shown to unseal it. So, is the original BC sealed because he was adopted?

The birth certificate isn't the issue of this thread. Fraud is.

Apparently, with some, character isn't an issue either.

Mike
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
Debbie Schlussel.....there's a solid, objective source of information.

I don't see anything, just scanning her website, that is offensive or provabley untrue......in fact it looks a bit like TB2K :p

Some irony here - the Commander in Chief of the USA didn't register for Selective Service? Either he did and it is all a horrible mistake, which could be cleared up by Obama, or he didn't and he was not willing to serve his country.

So, which is it? Probably we will never know.....the Mystery Man strikes again.:shr:
 

G-Man

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Today 08:25 PM
DrexHex
Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
so is 61 1125539 his social security number?
uhm...

611 125 529

Not enough digits


Huh ?????

611 12 5529

nine digits, :shr:
 

buttie

Veteran Member
Oh, puh-leeze.

You can't get student loans, or even attend college, unless you've registered. In some states you have to register when you apply for your driver's license.

I wouldn't care if he WASN'T registered. I'm against the draft, and against mandatory registration for it.

Since it seems that he was born in Kenya and probably received foreign aid a selective service card would not be requited for college registration. Don't you see all the pieces fitting together? :shr:
 

tosca

Inactive
In some states, when a child is adopted, the

original birth certificate is destroyed. Mari Susan
 

Pass Go

Deceased
And I thought GWB was teflon coated!

Apparently answers are not forthcoming, and no one seems to really care.

I would like, before I die, to see someone in the Whitehouse that OUGHT to be there.
 

Brutus

Membership Revoked
Oh, puh-leeze.

You can't get student loans, or even attend college, unless you've registered. In some states you have to register when you apply for your driver's license.

I wouldn't care if he WASN'T registered. I'm against the draft, and against mandatory registration for it.

Debbie Schlussel.....there's a solid, objective source of information.

I don't see anything, just scanning her website, that is offensive or provabley untrue......in fact it looks a bit like TB2K :p

Some irony here - the Commander in Chief of the USA didn't register for Selective Service? Either he did and it is all a horrible mistake, which could be cleared up by Obama, or he didn't and he was not willing to serve his country.

So, which is it? Probably we will never know.....the Mystery Man strikes again.:shr:

Since it seems that he was born in Kenya and probably received foreign aid a selective service card would not be requited for college registration. Don't you see all the pieces fitting together? :shr:

If he has never been a U.S. Citizen it would not be required of him to do so.
The larger point here is that Obama supposedly registered for Selective Service BEFORE it was even required, which is HIGHLY unlikely. The gov't didn't reinitiate mandatory SS registration until like '82 or '83.

Just more lies of his to try to make himself look like Mr. America.

i.e. - "Hey, I registered with SS eventhough it wasn't required."

:rolleyes:
 

fruit loop

Inactive
Original birth certificates are not destroyed. They are sealed in the state archives, and releaseable only via court order in all but a handful of states.

When an adoption is finalized, a new birth cert in the names of the adoptive parents is issued. This practice of issuing a new cert and sealing the old one is done across the board FOR ALL ADOPTIONS, including adoptions by other relatives and stepparents.

Barack was raised by his mother and stepfather, but I'm not aware that his stepfather adopted him. If he did, then his original birth cert would have indeed been sealed. Barack himself cannot look at it unless he gets a court order.

Oh.....and adoption of a minor child by American parents grants the child citizenship, by the way. Although Obama would have been an American citizen regardless of his place of birth since his mother was American. Just as John McCain is American despite his birth in Panama.
 

MaureenO

Another Infidel
It doesn't matter if he lied or not. The people who officially count do not care, and his followers don't either. Like my mum used to say "what will be, will be."

When watching an interview on TV not long ago, a black female (among other persons) reported that she was encouraged to register to vote under several different names, which she admitted to doing. I do not know if she voted under all those names.

Maureen :dstrs:
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
fruit loop, it's off topic but Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and became Barry Soetoro.

Here's his Indonesian school registration.

Ironically, there is more paper records available for Obama outside the US than within...

Mike
 

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MaureenO

Another Infidel
fruit loop, it's off topic but Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and became Barry Soetoro.

Here's his Indonesian school registration.

Ironically, there is more paper records available for Obama outside the US than within...

Mike

You know what I've been wondering, Mike, is when did Obama re-take his birth name? And why.

From what I understand, only muslim males can use the name "Hussein." If that is true, then Obama reverting to his birth name is an open admission to being muslim.

If someone can correct me if I'm incorrect, please do. I only want to know the truth, not speculation.

Maureen :dstrs:
 

JRM

Contributing Member
Not only did he register before it became mandatory to do so, he registered under the name 'Obama' at a time when he was still legally Soetoro. According to his sister Maya he legally changed his last name to Obama when he was about 25.
 

denfoote

Inactive
At this point why does all this matter??
The Supremes have their orders.
The Federal Election Commission has their orders.
McCain had his orders.
The fix was always in for Obama!!!
 

sssarawolf

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It does matter if he registered or not is he lying or not, there are way to many things we don't know about this man. This supposed to become our president and his records are sealed? So no one knows what we need to know.
 

MaureenO

Another Infidel
It does matter if he registered or not is he lying or not, there are way to many things we don't know about this man. This supposed to become our president and his records are sealed? So no one knows what we need to know.

Ayup.

Maureen :dstrs:
 
...There is a reason why his records have been sealed...


In all honesty, there's apparently precious little that we REALLY know about this man - other than his oft-stated goals of "hope & change".

And yes, the unsatisfying 'answer' to every question seems to beg yet another question about him.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Not only did he register before it became mandatory to do so, he registered under the name 'Obama' at a time when he was still legally Soetoro. According to his sister Maya he legally changed his last name to Obama when he was about 25.

Hmm...good point
 

Bad Hand

Veteran Member
He has lied about most everything already form his church on down so why should this be any different?
 

fruit loop

Inactive
You can use any name you want to provided you aren't attempting to evade the law, in which case it becomes an alias.

Hussein is an Arabic name and is a very common last name among African and Middle Eastern people, male and female. I've met people who were not Muslim named Hussein.
 

lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
If the adoption took place in Indonesia, then it's probable that the original birth cert in Hawaii was not effected. It could still be the original unless adoption papers were forwarded to the court for them to have on file. Then the court would have had to notify the records division to seal the original BC and reissue an updated one with the adoptive fathers name, and the childs adopted name. That might have never happened. It's questionable if the US would have any record at all of a foreign adoption.

IF he was traveling on an Indonesian passport (and claiming Indonesian citizenship?) when he was in college (his college records haven't been released either have they?), then he would not be required to register for American draft. But... he would not qualify to be POTUS either.

.... what a tangled web we weave.

He could have cleared it all up at the start if he would have simply released copies of his records like all other candidates down thru history have done. His refusal to provide any documentation makes everyone wonder what he's hiding. It's the fuel that fans the flames.

It seems like the more we find out, the more questions arrise.
 
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