WTF?!? Ebola ‘dirty bomb’ the next big fear

Natty Bumppo

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Ebola ‘dirty bomb’ the next big fear: are large cities vulnerable to biological attack?


The possibility of Ebola being harvested by would-be terrorists and used as a bioweapon in a large city is now at the front of the minds of many. Dr. Peter D. Walsh of the University of Cambridge (6) is publicly raising the alarm over the same warning I issued last week here on Natural News when I wrote, “Ebola is a perfect bioweapon. Because of its ability to survive storage and still function many days, weeks or years later, it could be very easily harvested from infected victims and then preserved using nothing more than a common food dehydrator.”

Ebola 'dirty bomb' the next big fear are large cities vulnerable to biological attack

Now, Dr. Walsh is adding his voice to the warning in an article published in The Sun (1), saying “serious risk is that a group manages to harness the virus as a powder, then explodes it in a bomb in a highly populated public area. It could cause a large number of horrific deaths.”

What both of us quickly realized as this situation unfolded is that Ebola virus is not very difficult to acquire because infections are so widespread. Harvesting the virus is a simple matter of taking a few droplets of blood from a patient who already has the disease (and trying not to infect yourself in the process).

Ebola is easy to make into a bomb, doctor warns

As I pointed out last week here on Natural News, Ebola remains viable indefinitely if stored properly. The Public Health Agency of Canada explains: (2)

The virus can survive in liquid or dried material for a number of days. Infectivity is found to be stable at room temperature or at 4 (C) for several days, and indefinitely stable at -70 C.

As CBS Local reports: (7)

…biological anthropologist Dr. Peter Walsh says that the risk should be taken seriously of terror groups getting their hands on the Ebola virus. “A bigger and more serious risk is that a group manages to harness the virus as a powder, then explodes it in a bomb in a highly populated area,” Walsh told The Sun. “It could cause a large number of horrific deaths.”

Once the material has arrived on location, as Dr. Walsh describes, it can be strapped to a chemical bomb of some sort to disperse the Ebola material in a crowded area such as a train station, subway station, etc. Enclosed, indoor areas are the most likely targets by terrorists because they maximize the concentration of the material during dispersal.

“EXPERTS fear terror groups are building a “dirty bomb” containing the fearful flesh-eating Ebola virus and plan to explode it in a UK city,” reports News.com.au (6).

A self-replicating weapon

The reason Ebola is such a dangerous bioweapon is because it self-replicates. The terrorists who invoke such a weapon are not merely causing fatalities among those who are immediately infected; they also initiate a ripple effect that may result in hundreds, thousands or even tens of thousands of others being infected before full containment is achieved.

Infectious disease bombs would also be extremely demanding on emergency responder resources, tying up not just police and investors but also hospitals, doctors and infectious disease experts. The logistics of quarantine and patient transportation are also a nightmare for any local or national government to deal with.

At the same time, the fear factor of a bioweapon attack has enormous “payoffs” for terrorists who are attempting to create as much terror as possible. The idea that an invisible, deadly weapon has been unleashed in their own city will drive many residents to the brink of total panic. The fear will paralyze the city and shut down nearly all commerce, transportation and employment.

Thus, an “Ebola dirty bomb” achieves a kind of economic and psychological destruction which simply can’t be matched by a chemical bomb. Ebola is terrifying all by itself, and pairing it with a deployment device multiplies the terror effect on the population.

Can we stop such acts of terrorism?

The real question on this is glaringly obvious: Can we stop the deployment of such a bomb in a large city like New York or London?

Despite the best efforts of law enforcement and national security operators, the realistic answer is a resounding “no.” Ebola is relatively easy to harvest by a determined terror group, and making a bomb to disperse it is a simple matter.

So the usual law enforcement approach of trying to keep tabs on people buying explosive materials won’t be helpful in this case. It’s almost impossible to prevent someone from building and deploying such a device.

Low-tech weapons that rival the destruction of nukes

Keep in mind that there really are evil groups trying to destroy America at every turn. Some of them operate from far outside the USA, but others are operating right now inside the country. With a bioweapon like Ebola, they have easy access to low-tech weapons of mass destruction, and biological weapons can approach the devastation of nuclear weapons because of their self-replication capabilities.

What makes this situation even more complex is that the source of the attacks can be concealed, so the American military has no idea who to attack in response. If a terror group unleashes an Ebola dirty bomb at Grand Central Station, who does the Pentagon nuke in return? There’s no answer because nobody knows… at least not right away.

An Ebola dirty bomb can be constructed and deployed by a surprisingly small team. This team could be funded by a rogue government using a variety of covert funding technique leaving no traces of their origin. Regimes like North Korea have already announced their intentions to attempt to destroy America by striking us with nuclear weapons. It is not out of the realm of possibilities that North Korea could fund a rogue bioweapons team to attempt to cause an Ebola pandemic in America.

Accidental pandemic

There’s also the possibility that U.S. health authorities might accidentally unleash Ebola on the U.S. population by making a serious error in their handling of Ebola patients. As Natural News readers know, Ebola patients have been imported in the U.S. over the last few days while health authorities ridiculously claim there is no risk to the U.S. population.

Radio host Michael Savage, who has a PhD in epidemiology, offered some of the best criticism of these foolish activities, saying: (3)

All these experts on television are telling us it’s perfectly safe and we need not worry. And the lamest answer comes when you ask them how the medical doctor who they brought to Atlanta contracted Ebola in Africa. Their answer is always the same: “Oh, an accidental needle prick.” This is nonsense. It is possible they were experimenting on the poor African villagers and the disease got out of control. Now, they are bringing in highly infectious patients into this nation that is Ebola-free. In doing so, they are violating the primary rule of contagion: isolation. They are now using this: “We must fight our fears or remain compassionate.” This story is unraveling.

SOURCE:
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=9
 

Stardust

Veteran Member
Why even bother to "explode" it and draw attention to that act?

Seems it might be better to just simply put Ebola infected blood, sweat, whatever, on a whole bunch of dollar bills and spread them around. Drop one here, there, in different cities, and states. We all know everybody will stop and pick up a dollar if it's just laying on the ground.....just thinkin' out loud.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Why even bother to "explode" it and draw attention to that act?

Seems it might be better to just simply put Ebola infected blood, sweat, whatever, on a whole bunch of dollar bills and spread them around. Drop one here, there, in different cities, and states. We all know everybody will stop and pick up a dollar if it's just laying on the ground.....just thinkin' out loud.

You are a MUCH more INSIGHTFUL, CIRCUMSPECT, AND RATIONAL analyst than the leading, "authorities" who have been put in charge of protecting the public from this scourge!!

THEY have been given the power, money, authority and REAL, more truthful information about the contagious disease that SHOULD make for effective, efficient and successful decisions about which epidemic responses to employ, BUT THEY LACK THE COMMON SENSE, KNOWLEDGE OF HUMAN NATURE, OR WILLINGNESS TO SPEND THE TIME AND EFFORT NECESSARY TO "think through" the likely consequences of the responses they endorse or to envision the "scenarios" most likely to arise.

OUR "health and political leaders" ARE NOT "DEEP THINKERS". Their "pandemic responses" are FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED because they attempt to address their "disease containment mission" as if it was occurring in a vacuum. They spout solutions without mentioning, allowing for, or considering the OTHER factors in play ( citizens ongoing need for OTHER LIFE OR DEATH MEDICAL CARE DURING THE PANDEMIC, NEED FOR FOOD, WATER, POWER, SHELTER, POLICE PROTECTION, COMMUNICATION ETC . Those factors can ALSO AFFECT THE OUTCOME, mission success, and reduce the number of PREVENTABLE deaths FROM ALL CAUSES, by not over-focusing upon addressing the pandemic to the point of causing MORE preventable deaths from the lack of medical care and treatment for other non-contagious injury and illness than even the pandemic causes.

THEIR "PANDEMIC RESPONSES" HAVE AND WILL MAKE THE SITUATION IMMEASURABLY WORSE with "unintended consequences", AND EXPONENTIALLY MUSHROOMING THE NUMBER OF NEEDLESS, PREVENTABLE DEATHS BY THEIR SHORT SIGHTED, WRONG-HEADED DECISIONS.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
It is said that 99 percent of ALL paper money in the USA has cocaine on it. You do not need to make a "dirty bomb" to spread Ebola. The Mongols took rotting corpses and flung them over the wall into the Black Sea cities they were attacking. One militant Islam man or woman infected with a serum of Ebola from the rotting corpses all over West Africa would do the trick.

Fly an infected terrorist in and turn him loose to wander around for a few days exposing people he meets. Use a petri dish to grow some live virus and put it in a spray type cleaner bottle; give it to your "janitor terrorist" and have them spray it on every surface in the skyscrapper they have been cleaning for the last two years. The list of easy, nearly undetectable ways to spread the virus in any advanced western country are legion.

For one thing, the failure to shut down global air travel out of West Africa and Nigeria guarantees Ebola will spread like what happened with Mr. Sawyer. Anybody care to contemplate what would have happened if he flew from Liberia to Atlanta?
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
It is said that 99 percent of ALL paper money in the USA has cocaine on it. You do not need to make a "dirty bomb" to spread Ebola. The Mongols took rotting corpses and flung them over the wall into the Black Sea cities they were attacking. One militant Islam man or woman infected with a serum of Ebola from the rotting corpses all over West Africa would do the trick.

Fly an infected terrorist in and turn him loose to wander around for a few days exposing people he meets. Use a petri dish to grow some live virus and put it in a spray type cleaner bottle; give it to your "janitor terrorist" and have them spray it on every surface in the skyscrapper they have been cleaning for the last two years. The list of easy, nearly undetectable ways to spread the virus in any advanced western country are legion.

For one thing, the failure to shut down global air travel out of West Africa and Nigeria guarantees Ebola will spread like what happened with Mr. Sawyer. Anybody care to contemplate what would have happened if he flew from Liberia to Atlanta?

How many West African workers in your hospitals, not just doctors & nurses but cleaning staff, how many West Africans working in shops, malls, cinemas, studying in colleges,
How many people could Sawyer infected if he was flipping burgers at Mickey D's
 

Possible Impact

TB Fanatic
(Original Link for OP copied from previous thread, Published: 12:40 EST, 3 August 2014)
Terrorists could use Ebola to create dirty bomb
to kill large numbers in the UK, says Cambridge University disease expert

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...says-Cambridge-University-disease-expert.html




Max Alert! EBOLA Bodily Fluids Readily Airborne Weaponizable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpI00_JDhZ8
Published on Aug 3, 2014
http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/...
(c)2014 www.POTRBLOG.com
Q: What is the difference between an Ultrasonic Humidifier and a Weapon of Mass Infection?
A: The addition of Human Ebola infected bodily fluids to the humidifier's tank

Now, if one is to believe the Centers for Disease Control [CDC], the public
has nothing to fear from Inhalation Ebola. Unsurprisingly the CDC tells
hospitals and airline crews the exact opposite and warns them about the
dangers of aerosolized Ebola.


Unfortunately, we are now in a situation where any terrorist in Africa can
expose a person to Ebola and fly them undetected to the western world
prior to any illness becoming observable. From that point on wards, it is
only a matter of harvesting the right bodily fluids and aerosolizing those
fluids with an ultrasonic humidifier in a location suitable for mass dispersal.

Be aware that the potential time frame between the Government's public
message changing from "Everything is fine" to "Shut up and do what you
are told" may be surprisingly short.
Sources:
http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/...
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Yeah, about the only people who really "think that way" are at Fort Detrick's U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command (MRMC) and at Langley.
 

Used Camels

Inactive
All the "what if?" nightmare scenarios out there for nefarious doom-saying are pretty much the reason for our police state.

That said, you do have to acknowledge the easy access right now of this scary bio-pocalyptic contagion for any who might be inspired to use it. Not much to be done about it, really, at the personal or household level until the fears come to fruition.
 

Baloo

Veteran Member
I think this is ridiculous--powderizing that is; if some bad guy wanted to use current ebola outbreak they would just get infected and walk across our border and then go sneeze/spit in mass-transit and stores.
 
One of the current articles at www.PreventEbola.com:


Mob Destroys Ebola Clinic in Liberia; Patients Flee


What could POSSIBLY go wrong in that scenario?

Sounds like the perfect descent into madness and chaos - followed by fear, pain & silence?
 

Garand

Veteran Member
Ebola infected person could just take a swim in a city waters supply and the whole city would get it?
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Anyone with evil intent could easily bring 10 cities down in 3 months. And I did mean any ONE.

Now, what could 10 evil people do?

Forget the water supply. That may not work. It is so much easier than that... and I won't elaborate.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
And the point is.... prep your storage now. Sharpen the edge of your thoughts to best economize what you have. Figure out how to manage without going into public, without going to stores or ordering deliveries. Think about how to sanitize everything you bring into your home. When the plagues start, the world will change radically.

The evil one is seeking to drain you of energy, vitality, clear thinking, and most of all- your relationship with God. If you don't know how... learn to pray. That means meeting God personally.
 

Knight_Loring

Veteran Member
It is said that 99 percent of ALL paper money in the USA has cocaine on it. QUOTE]

I think that is BS! It is BS that originated from people who want control over the populace.
They want to do away with the use of money by spreading a false fact to cause a headline reading society to want to use only credit and debit cards. Everyone is so easy to track now and control later.
Why stop there? This nice little microchip inserted in you with a innocent name that includes the word 'angel' will solve all the germ problems... and no ckoe residue to harm you... sarc

Doomer, I think you missed it on this sentence.
 

Knight_Loring

Veteran Member
You do not need to make a "dirty bomb" to spread Ebola. The Mongols took rotting corpses and flung them over the wall into the Black Sea cities they were attacking. One militant Islam man or woman infected with a serum of Ebola from the rotting corpses all over West Africa would do the trick.

Fly an infected terrorist in and turn him loose to wander around for a few days exposing people he meets. Use a petri dish to grow some live virus and put it in a spray type cleaner bottle; give it to your "janitor terrorist" and have them spray it on every surface in the skyscrapper they have been cleaning for the last two years. The list of easy, nearly undetectable ways to spread the virus in any advanced western country are legion.

For one thing, the failure to shut down global air travel out of West Africa and Nigeria guarantees Ebola will spread like what happened with Mr. Sawyer. Anybody care to contemplate what would have happened if he flew from Liberia to Atlanta?

Doomer.... Yeah that's scary.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
If you extrapolate with modern equipment what was done in "experiments" in the past you can see why this should be as serious a concern as "natural" spreading of this disease....

For links see article source.....
Posted for fair use......
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/general-article/weapon-secret-testing/

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/weapon/


The Living Weapon
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/weapon/player

The international race to develop biological weapons during the 20th century, the challenges scientists faced, and the moral dilemmas posed by their eventual success.


General Article: Secret Testing in the United States
Other General Articles

Pentagon, aerial view.
Library of Congress
Pentagon, aerial view.

The start of the Cold War brought new foes and new fears for the officials running America’s biological weapons program. Determined to anticipate possible Soviet attacks, the U.S. staged more than 200 domestic tests aimed at assessing national vulnerabilities to biological warfare.

From the Pentagon to the Pacific
Ira Baldwin, Camp Detrick’s scientific director during World War II, left his position after the Allied victory in 1945 and returned to teaching at the University of Wisconsin. He continued to advise the government on issues concerning biological weapons, however, particularly the threat that might be posed by enemy spies releasing biological agents in American cities. In an October 1948 report, Baldwin posited that the U.S. was “particularly vulnerable to this type of attack.” But in order to determine the precise nature of these vulnerabilities, secret field tests would have to be done to ascertain the vulnerability of targets of potential interest to the enemy. The Army’s Chemical Corps, which ran Camp Detrick, agreed with Baldwin’s assessment and set up a Special Operations Division at Camp Detrick to carry out the tests. Its first target was to be the Pentagon.

In August 1949, the Special Operations Division operatives infiltrated the world’s largest office building and sprayed bacteria into the Pentagon’s air handling system, which then spread them throughout the structure.

The operatives moved to larger scale testing, releasing clouds containing supposedly harmless bacteria from Navy ships off Norfolk, Virginia, in April 1950, and the San Francisco coast in September 1950. The San Francisco experiments showed exposure among almost all of the city’s 800,000 residents. Had the bacteria released been anthrax bacteria or some other virulent pathogen, the number of casualties would have been immense.

The St Jo Program and Large Area Concept
The success of the first field tests only increased demand for more experiments. In response to an Air Force request, in 1953 the Chemical Corps created the St Jo Program and operatives staged mock anthrax attacks on St. Louis, Minneapolis, and Winnipeg. The bacteria were released from generators placed on top of cars, and local governments were told that “invisible smokescreen” were being deployed to mask the city on enemy radar. The next stage was to increase dispersal patterns, dispensing particles from airplanes to find out how wide of an area they would affect. The first Large Area Concept experiment, in 1957, involved dispersing microorganisms over a swath from South Dakota to Minnesota; monitoring revealed that some of the particles eventually traveled some 1200 miles away. Further tests covered areas from Ohio to Texas and Michigan to Kansas. In the Army’s words, these experiments “proved the feasibility of covering large areas of the country with [biological weapons] agents.”

Airports and Subways
Serratia marcescens bacteria. Open-air testing continued through the 1960s, with the Special Operations Division operatives simulating even more audacious assaults. In 1965 they spread bacteria throughout Washington’s National Airport; a year later, agents dropped light bulbs filled with organisms onto the tracks in New York’s subway system. “I think it spread pretty good,” participant Wally Pannier later said, “because you had a natural aerosol developed every few minutes from every train that went past.” President Nixon’s 1969 termination of the United States offensive biological weapons program brought an end to the open-air testing, but the American public did not learn of this testing until 1977. Relatives of one elderly man Edward Nevin who had died of a nosocomial infection six months after the San Francisco tests sued the government in 1981, arguing that the supposedly harmless Serratia marcescens bacteria used in that test had in fact caused his death. In the event, the courts ruled against them, the main reason being that the plaintiffs could not prove that the bacteria used in the test were the same as those that killed Mr. Nevin.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
A dirty what? That's primitive. What ever happened to the cultured delivery systems of a helicopter or plane with a modified ram-air Venturi for dispersing at dusk with a full 10 hours of darkness over major metros?
 
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