COMM E-4Bs airborne

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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All 4 E-4Bs airborne at once could have been repositioning the fleet to get them to scattered bases to sit alert at. If they're concerned something's going to happen, better to have the E-4s just having taken off with fresh crews and full fuel. And depending on what is happening they might not all launch at once, instead doing a rotation between aircraft to have one airborne at all times.

The E-6 being airborne sounds like a Looking Glass mission, doing its turn in the Looking Glass rotation schedule. Just like the 1970s and 80s.

Came out of Tinker, wandered down into the gulf, up to colorado, across to illanoy, maybe back to Tinker.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea

‘We unequivocally condemn attacks’

“We unequivocally condemn all attacks on cities, town and villages, in Ukraine and in the Russian Federation,” Mr. Khiari said. “Attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure violate international humanitarian law, are unacceptable and must end now.”


And blah blah blah...

'.....international humanitarian Law....'


That's why I hate boxing....too many rules....
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Abandoned for at least 50 years, out of service for almost 60 years. All Atlas systems were out of inventory by 1965.
There was a whole lot of talk that they keep things hot just in case. And a lot of folks that work in the area were strong belivers in that the silos were still active. But it was also said that Oak Ridge was one of the backup sites for congress if things went south.
 

Abert

Veteran Member
Lol, there are no deadman switches. They make nice for fiction, but have never been part of US Strategic plans.
Well Somewhat true - the US does not have such a system - HOWEVER Russia does - developed in the Soviet days - no confirmation but it is expected to be still active.

Like something out of one of the worst James Bond movies, the Soviet Union developed a world-ending mechanism that would launch all of its nuclear weapons without any command from an actual human.

Russia currently has an estimated 1,600 deployed tactical nuclear weapons, with another 2,400 strategic nuclear weapons tied to intercontinental ballistic missiles. This makes Russia the largest nuclear power in the world. All of these weapons are tied into the Perimeter, an automatic nuclear weapons control system.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Abandoned for at least 50 years, out of service for almost 60 years. All Atlas systems were out of inventory by 1965.
Out of service but not necessarily abandoned. The F series silos in some instances were reused as machine shops, I understand.
They have first rate climate control systems in them. The Atlas missiles were basically giant aluminum bags that were kept inflated when they weren't fuelled. An Atlas missile with no fuel in it would essentially crumple to the ground; without the fuel load there was nearly zero structural strength. There's an F model in Huntsville, AL at the space and rocket museum. As old as it is; it's still being inflated by a constant nitrogen tap. You can see the generator and tanks sitting behind the missile, which is lying on an extremely rare transport trailer.
 

dvo

Veteran Member
There was a whole lot of talk that they keep things hot just in case. And a lot of folks that work in the area were strong belivers in that the silos were still active. But it was also said that Oak Ridge was one of the backup sites for congress if things went south.
Driving through Oak Ridge tomorrow afternoon, so I’ll keep my eyes open. Not really. The place creeps me out. Best to stay on the main drag and get through the general area. Got off the main drag once and felt like we were being followed. Doubt that was true, but this person did follow us for a good 15 minutes. Yeah…that area is creepy.
 

Safetydude

Senior Member
Out of service but not necessarily abandoned. The F series silos in some instances were reused as machine shops, I understand.
They have first rate climate control systems in them. The Atlas missiles were basically giant aluminum bags that were kept inflated when they weren't fuelled. An Atlas missile with no fuel in it would essentially crumple to the ground; without the fuel load there was nearly zero structural strength. There's an F model in Huntsville, AL at the space and rocket museum. As old as it is; it's still being inflated by a constant nitrogen tap. You can see the generator and tanks sitting behind the missile, which is lying on an extremely rare transport trailer.
Yes the "coffin" sites made great machine shops. Most of the F silos are flooded to some extent unless someo e kept sump pumps running. Unless there was constant up keep, things went south pretty quickly with steel structures rusting pretty quickly. Those old bases also have plenty of environmental issues with heavy metals and chemicals. I only visited from topside an old Titan 1 site outside of Denver as the owners neighbor was out and not a problem. Kind of like the Atlas F on steroids with 3 birds to 1 LCC.

I also saw that Atlas at Huntsville a few years back, stainless steel skin is still in great shape. A lot of the missiles there outside are in pretty sad shape with lots of rust. Was surprised to see part of a Spirit ABM Warhead section inside the museum but it was not identified as such. Spartan missile was outside.
 

Magdalen

Veteran Member
Sick or not, the fire hazard tree needs to be taken outside.

Every year we take ours down and set it in the snow outside standing up.

Remind our kids and us just how fast they go up in flames and how brutally hot it is.

15 foot flames...easy.

You feel HOT from the heat 30 feet away.

Be safe.

On Candlemas, all our closet friends bring their trees to our school's farm where we set them ablaze while we drink hot chocolate and sing the last Christmas carols of the year. We call it 'Christmas Stick', and yes, the blaze is brutally hot! The kids love it.
 

Wildweasel

F-4 Phantoms Phorever
Yes the "coffin" sites made great machine shops. Most of the F silos are flooded to some extent unless someo e kept sump pumps running. Unless there was constant up keep, things went south pretty quickly with steel structures rusting pretty quickly. Those old bases also have plenty of environmental issues with heavy metals and chemicals. I only visited from topside an old Titan 1 site outside of Denver as the owners neighbor was out and not a problem. Kind of like the Atlas F on steroids with 3 birds to 1 LCC.

I also saw that Atlas at Huntsville a few years back, stainless steel skin is still in great shape. A lot of the missiles there outside are in pretty sad shape with lots of rust. Was surprised to see part of a Spirit ABM Warhead section inside the museum but it was not identified as such. Spartan missile was outside.
That Atlas looks good because it is regularly wiped down with the special water removal compound developed just for that purpose. Water Displacement Compound #40, more commonly known as WD-40. Whatever came of WD-1 thru WD-39 is lost to history.
 
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