Do Illegals Bring Disease? Van Rolls w/33 Suspected Migrants, Read the Rest--

[Seeker]

Van packed with 33 suspected migrants rolls, killing 1

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- A van packed with suspected illegal immigrants rolled over while exiting Interstate 10 near Benson on Monday, killing one woman and injuring 30 other people. Two others caught fleeing on foot were in Border Patrol custody. The accident occurred about 10 miles west of Benson. Quentin Mehr, an Arizona Department of Public Safety spokesman, said the injured were taken to Tucson-area hospitals. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are investigating.

Three males and three females were taken by helicopter to University Medical Center, with two listed as critical, two serious, one fair and one good, spokeswoman Katie Riley said. Another 11 patients were transported to University Physicians Healthcare Hospital, where one was assessed in critical condition and awaited transfer to UMC, a level one trauma center. One other person determined to have chicken pox was placed in isolation and the others at UPH were being treated for bone and jaw injuries, cuts and lacerations, said emergency medical director Dr. Mazda Shirazi. Four crash victims taken to St. Joseph's Hospital were listed in good condition, spokeswoman Lisa Contreras said. Tucson Medical Center spokesman Michael Letson said nine people brought in from the accident were under assessment for various injuries.

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[rhughe13]

Van packed with 33 suspected migrants rolls, killing 1

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- A van packed with suspected illegal immigrants rolled over while exiting Interstate 10 near Benson on Monday, killing one woman and injuring 30 other people. Two others caught fleeing on foot were in Border Patrol custody. The accident occurred about 10 miles west of Benson. Quentin Mehr, an Arizona Department of Public Safety spokesman, said the injured were taken to Tucson-area hospitals. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are investigating.

Three males and three females were taken by helicopter to University Medical Center, with two listed as critical, two serious, one fair and one good, spokeswoman Katie Riley said. Another 11 patients were transported to University Physicians Healthcare Hospital, where one was assessed in critical condition and awaited transfer to UMC, a level one trauma center. One other person determined to have chicken pox was placed in isolation and the others at UPH were being treated for bone and jaw injuries, cuts and lacerations, said emergency medical director Dr. Mazda Shirazi. Four crash victims taken to St. Joseph's Hospital were listed in good condition, spokeswoman Lisa Contreras said. Tucson Medical Center spokesman Michael Letson said nine people brought in from the accident were under assessment for various injuries.

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They were probably headed for one of the John McCain amnesty fundraisers to show support, and then to the voting booth.

 

[Seeker]

What is the incubation period for chickenpox? Wouldn't all 30+, tightly packed together in that van, have been exposed and now be suspected carriers or soon-to-be-ill patients requiring further isolation and treatment?

 

[ShakinSouth]

nevermind

 

[Bad Hand]

The others probably had chicken pox as children.

 

[LXF71]

"30 Mexicans in a van" There has to be a joke in there somewhere.

 

[Wowser]

Is this a trick Question?

VDARE.COM - http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/diseases.htm

September 30, 2004
National Data, By Edwin S. Rubenstein
Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor … Your Infectious Diseases?

Illegal aliens are, by Federal law, entitled to free emergency health care, and many states provide non-emergency care as well. The cost to U.S. taxpayers exceeds $1 billion in border hospitals alone.

But a potentially more onerous—even deadly—burden lurks in the infectious diseases that many illegals bring with them. Diseases once thought eradicated in the U.S. have reappeared courtesy of the post-1965 influx.

The Centers For Disease Control reports that illegal immigrants account for over 65 percent of communicable diseases (TB, hepatitis, leprosy, AIDS, etc.) in the U.S. Of course, immigration officials are supposed to screen out applicants for legal immigration who are carrying diseases. But illegals slip over the border unchecked. [Marty Nemko, “The Overwhelming of America.”]

There are seven thousand registered cases of leprosy in the US, for example.

Each year some 300 new cases of leprosy are identified in the United States. The vast majority of these patients are immigrants who acquired the disease in their home countries. [MSN Encarta]

Tuberculosis is generally regarded as the most common infectious disease found in immigrants. More than half (53.4 percent) of all TB cases reported in 2003 involved foreign-born persons. [Table 1.]

The disparity between native and immigrant TB rates increased significantly over the past decade:
bullet TB cases among U.S. natives fell from 17,464 in 1993 to 8,903 in 2003, a 49 percent decline—but TB cases among immigrants rose from 7,354 in 1993 to 7,902 in 2003, a 7.5 percent increase

bullet The TB case rate for immigrants in 2003 (23.6 per 100,000 population) was nearly ten-times that of natives (2.7 per 100,000 population)

bullet Immigrant children are at least 100 times more likely to be infected than children born in the U.S. [William M. Stauffer, MD, et al., “Medical Screening of Immigrant Children,” Clinical Pediatrics, November-December, 2003.]

However, the risk posed to Americans is potentially far greater than these numbers might suggest:
bullet Approximately 7 million foreign-born persons are infected with TB, although most are not active cases.

bullet It is estimated that each active case infects10 to 20 more people via airborne bacteria spread through coughing.

bullet It can take years for the symptoms to present themselves.

Even worse, the form of TB most common among illegal aliens is a drug-resistant type—with a higher death rate than cancer.

California has the largest TB caseload – 3,205 reported cases in 2003. More than three-quarters (75.6 percent) were foreign-born. Texas and Arizona are also among the top ten in active TB cases. [Table 2.]

But the TB problem is no longer confined to the border states.

In northern Virginia, for example, foreign-born residents accounted for 92 percent of the new TB cases in 2000. [Marvene O’Rourke, “Transnational Crime: A New Health Threat for Corrections,” Corrections Today, February 2002.] Prince Georges County, Virginia, reported a staggering 188 percent rise in TB cases in 2002. Health officials attributed it to illegal immigrants from Mexico.

Queens, NY, Portland, Maine, Del Ray Beach, Florida, Minnesota, and Michigan have also reported TB outbreaks linked to recently arrived immigrants.

A particularly heart-rending mode of disease transmission: foreign children adopted by U.S. parents.

Fewer than half of children adopted from orphanages in Russia, China, and Eastern Europe are found to have protective anti-bodies to polio, diphtheria, tetanus, and whooping cough—despite records purporting to show proper immunization.

Immigration, even in its most compassionate form, may be bad for our health.

[Number fans click here for tables.]

Edwin S. Rubenstein (email him) is President of ESR Research Economic Consultants in Indianapolis.

 

[Wowser]

VDARE.COM - http://www.vdare.com/francis/chagas.htm

November 24, 2003
Diversity Is Strength! It’s Also Disease

By Sam Francis

[Click here to order Sam Francis' new monograph, Ethnopolitics: Immigration, Race, and the American Political Future]

Among the many benefits of the mass immigration the Open Borders Lobby has invited into the country are the diseases that would probably all but have vanished from American and Western society but for the presence of Third World immigrants.

Tuberculosis, rubella (German measles) and hepatitis are among the most serious, but last week the New York Times science section disclosed yet another Third World plague immigration has contributed to the scrutiny of medical science and public hygiene. It makes tuberculosis look rather like a summer cold. [ Rare Infection Threatens to Spread in Blood Supply by Donald G. McNeil Jr., New York Times, 17 Nov 2003]

This one is known as Chagas disease, which flourishes in Latin America and operates mainly by "threatening the United States blood supply," according to the public health officials the Times interviewed.

It is not—yet—common in the United States, but thanks to immigration it may soon be.

Indeed, only nine cases of Chagas transmitted by blood transfusions are known in the United States and Canada in the last 20 years, but perhaps you see the problem despite such encouraging news.

The problem is that as immigration from Latin America increases, and more Latin Americans donate blood, the greater the chance for the disease to enter blood supplies—whence the disease may come to you and your family.

As the Times reports,

"Because the disease is most common in rural areas from southern Mexico to northern Chile, the threat is greatest in American cities with many immigrants from those areas."

Well, it just shows how really provincial America is. In "Mexico, Central America and South America," the Times reports, "18 million people are infected, and 50,000 a year die of it."

Moreover, the more immigrants from such places are around, the more infections there will be. In the United States as a whole, the risk of getting a transfusion of infected blood is a mere 1 in 25,000, according to scientists at the American Red Cross—pretty good odds. But in Miami, in 1998, where Latin immigrants are common, the risk is 1 in 9,000—not quite such good odds. In Los Angeles the same year, the odds are 1 in 5,400—even worse odds but not quite what they were only two years earlier: 1 in 9,850.

So what does Chagas do exactly? Well, it's transmitted by cute little insects fetchingly known as "assassin bugs," which live in the thatch in your roof.

Many Americans do not have thatch in their roofs, but the Open Borders lobby is working on that.

The assassin bug is attracted to the open mouths of sleeping humans, crawls in and sucks some blood. In exchange it gives the sleeper a microbe that the sleeper sometimes rubs into the wound. The microbe causes Chagas.

As to what the disease actually does, well, those who get it "will die when their hearts or intestines, weakened by the disease, explode." But that's only 10 to 30 percent of those who get Chagas, which is the good news.

It's hard to say what the bad news is since there's just so much of it.

First, despite the disease's rarity so far, "hundreds of blood recipients may be silently infected already."

Second, there is no way to tell yet, since the disease can lie dormant for 10 to 30 years before your internal organs start celebrating the Fourth of July.

Third, there's no test available yet to determine whether blood supplies are infected.

The Food and Drug Administration has not approved a reliable test for the presence of the disease in blood supplies, and no such test seems to be known anyway. One researcher at a major pharmaceutical company told the Times she doesn't expect a test to be available until 2005.

The danger for Americans, of course, is not that assassin bugs will crawl into their mouths but that they'll need blood transfusions for ordinary reasons and the blood they'll get will be infected and no one will know until some day 10 to 30 years in the future you start spilling your guts—quite literally.

Of course the Open Borders lobby, which has crooned about the wonderful gifts that immigrants from the Third World are bringing us, never knew about Chagas or the problems—like mass epidemics—that the disease might cause, even though critics of mass immigration for decades have warned about its impact on public health.

It might have been helpful if the Open Borders crowd had paid some minimal attention to the realities of the Third World.

But since they refused, it would be helpful today if everyone else ceased paying attention to them at all.

As for Chagas, it may be rare today, but as the Times reports, "Experts expect it to become better known as new tests are developed."

You can bet your roof thatch.

COPYRIGHT CREATORS SYNDICATE, INC.

[Sam Francis [email him] is a nationally syndicated columnist. A selection of his columns, America Extinguished: Mass Immigration And The Disintegration Of American Culture, is now available from Americans For Immigration Control. Click here for Sam Francis' website. Click here to order his monograph, Ethnopolitics: Immigration, Race, and the American Political Future and here for Glynn Custred's review.]

 

[Seeker]

Thanks, Wowser, for supporting data. Every one of these "low cost workers" will get free health care, despite what Hil or Bambam say to the contrary.

 

[mapwife]

"30 Mexicans in a van" There has to be a joke in there somewhere.

Actually they now say they are mostly Guatemalans and Ecuadorians.

 

[blackjeep]

"30 Mexicans in a van" There has to be a joke in there somewhere.

There is a related joke:

Why did Santa Anna bring only 2500 troops to the Battle of San Jacinto?




He only had one car.

 

[peekaboo]

This happened about 7 miles from my house. These types of crash happen often but rarely make the local news, almost never makes the national news. The only difference with this one is they didn't take out innocent people with them.

Last week we had a plane crash with 2 dead. That was less then a mile from my house.

Car Crashes with diseased people, plane crashes, people flowing over the boarder with less then minimum hygiene standards. Life sure has changed in this small town.

 

[changed]

Antibiotic resistant tuberculosis is the one to watch out for.

 

[ainitfunny]

Leprosy is not ALWAYS curable and treatable. Frequently people are unable to tolerate (allergy-sensitivity) the medications that ordinarily are admisnistered for leprosy.

 

[Satanta]

"30 Mexicans in a van" There has to be a joke in there somewhere.

Sorta....

Why were there only 25,000 Mexicans at the Alamo?

They only had two pickup trucks.

 

[Seeker]

. . . These types of crash happen often but rarely make the local news, almost never makes the national news. . .

Nor was mention made of the possible chickenpox/measles among the survivors. Nothing in the Phoenix paper, of course. Here is the latest update from a Tucson publication:

32 packed in van that rolled off I-10; dozens hurt; 1 dead
arizona daily star. Tucson, Arizona

One woman was killed, three men are in critical condition and dozens of others also were injured early Monday when a van loaded with illegal entrants tried to evade the Border Patrol and rolled on Interstate 10 west of Benson, officials said.
Indications are that most of the passengers are from Guatemala and Ecuador, said Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman Vincent Picard. Picard originally reported one woman died at the scene and two men died on their way to the hospital, but officials Monday afternoon could not confirm the two additional deaths.

Three Guatemalan men were in critical condition Monday evening with head injuries, said Oscar Padilla, the Guatemalan consul general in Phoenix. The deceased was a 21-year-old woman from Guatemala, Padilla said. Two smugglers were identified, and they will be referred to the U.S. Attorney's Office for charges, Picard said. "We're still investigating, so I don't know if there's going to be more smugglers, but I know we've identified two: the driver and the guide," he said. At least 14 of the 32 involved in the crash are Guatemalans, said Padilla, who went to three hospitals in Tucson to visit the injured and determine their nationalities. Three or four had already been released and were in the custody of U.S. law enforcement, Padilla said. The others, not including the three men in critical condition, suffered non-life-threatening injuries and were in stable condition. Three of the 14 are women, he said. None is a minor.

Four of the injured entrants are from Mexico, said Alejandro Ramos Cardoso, a spokesman for the Mexican Consulate in Tucson. The four men are in stable condition in Tucson hospitals, he said. The van was westbound on I-10 when it rolled just after 5 a.m. near Empirita Road, about 10 miles west of Benson, said Officer Quent Mehr, a Department of Public Safety spokesman. Some of the illegal entrants ran from the crash scene, authorities said. At least 32 people were in the van, officials said. Anne-Marie Braswell, a Rural/Metro Fire Department spokeswoman, said 23 people were taken to the hospital shortly after the crash, 18 by ground and five by air. She said eight of the illegal entrants were found by the U.S. Border Patrol after the crash. Of the eight caught by the Border Patrol, six were taken to the hospital, bringing the total injured to at least 29, Mehr said.
Most in the van were men, Picard said. He didn't know where they were headed.

Eight agencies responded to the crash, including DPS, the Tucson Fire Department and Border Patrol. Helicopters scoured the nearby desert in the hours after the wreck looking for additional passengers who may have left the scene. The Mescal Volunteer Fire Department, which responds to the Mescal/J-6 area west of Benson, was first on the scene at 5:22 a.m. with five firefighters and three trucks, said community director Terri Jo Neff.

There was some concern about emergency personnel being exposed to measles as some of the passengers were ill, Neff said. "We were told that one of the people had measles," said Mehr, the DPS spokesman. He said he then got information from the hospital that it wasn't measles, but chickenpox. "We did have reports from the occupants that some of them had chickenpox, and all of the agents and first responders have been notified," Picard said. The Pima County Health Department hadn't been notified of any cases of measles, said spokeswoman Patti Woodcock. "Since the end of February, all hospitals have been on high alert for rash presentations," Woodcock said. She said the department checks with hospitals daily to see if any new cases have emerged.
Some of the patients who were taken to University Medical Center were put in isolation as a precaution, said spokeswoman Beth Pouska.

Border Patrol agents spotted the van while they were conducting traffic stops in the area early Monday. They did not chase the van, but it appeared suspicious so they looked for it on I-10 and found it had rolled off the north side of the interstate, Mehr said. Border Patrol agents in the Tucson Sector apprehend Guatemalan illegal border-crossers fairly regularly but only encounter Ecuadoreans from time to time, said Border Patrol spokesman Jesús Rodriguez. In fiscal year 2006, the Department of Homeland Security deported 25,135 Guatemalans, placing the Central American nation fourth among all countries for deportees, behind only Mexico, El Salvador and Honduras, statistics from the agency show. In fiscal year 2005, it ranked fifth with 25,908 deportees.
Ecuador, with about 2,000 people deported in each fiscal year 2006 and 2005, ranked 10th among countries. Mexico is by far the largest source of illegal entrants, with more than 1 million deported each of the past three fiscal years, Homeland Security numbers show.

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/crime/233345

 

[AzProtector]

30 down, 12.5 million to go.

Sorry for sounding so callous, but the illegals need to go, bus, train, ambulance, or hearse...they need to go.

 

[kozanne]

This happened about 7 miles from my house. These types of crash happen often but rarely make the local news, almost never makes the national news. The only difference with this one is they didn't take out innocent people with them.

Last week we had a plane crash with 2 dead. That was less then a mile from my house.

Car Crashes with diseased people, plane crashes, people flowing over the boarder with less then minimum hygiene standards. Life sure has changed in this small town.

I'm in Mesa, a ways north of you, but I have read many accounts of what it's like to live closer to the line, and I can't imagine how disheartening it must be to see nice little towns becoming drop zones and garbage dumps. The ranchers way down there, my God, they have really seen some crap.

I'm serious, I really feel for you.

 

[peekaboo]

As a legal taxpaying Arizona citizen I have no problem paying my share of cost for emergency care for someone if they need it. But this is more free medical care on Arizona's dime, for people who shouldn't be here anyway.

Hospitals here are closing and cutting back services because they can't get reimbursed from the federal government for the care they should be paying for. We have 18 to 20 hour waits in ERs because illegals use it as their primary care and to drop anchor babies, $5 co pays and they are out the door.

I understand that some people don't like the heavy handed immigration standards we have here. If you have a problem with them then its your problem.

You don't live in a small town where you have to carry a gun when you go out at night because you never know when your going to be running into a pack of illegals outside your door or drug runners who will shot you to not get caught.
Your not the ones who have to clean up the trash including dirty diapers, condoms and human waste that they leave everywhere.
Your not the ones picking up dead bodies when a van with 30 people crash or of people that die trying to cross the boarder and don't make it.
Your not the ones that go out and pull panties off rape trees (this is a tree where the smuggles display panties of their victims as trophies)
You are not the ones getting exposed to every disease that come across the boarder.
You are not the ones having military gun stashes found just miles from your house.
You are not the ones who have a drug WAR going on just miles from your home or having the roads closed so the running shoot outs don't make it to your home.

Don't like Joe and the way he does things to bad... We wish all our Sheriffs were just like him.

Don't think for a minute that only brown skinned people get caught up in sweeps or are asked for ID, anyone and everyone is asked. When was the last time you couldn't get in or out of a town with out being stopped both ways so your licence can be checked,,, happens here all the time.

RANT OFF

 

[Seeker]

Thank you, peekaboo, for telling it like it is. Everyone on this forum who lives somewhere else should read this post.

 

[AzProtector]

As a legal taxpaying Arizona citizen I have no problem paying my share of cost for emergency care for someone if they need it. But this is more free medical care on Arizona's dime, for people who shouldn't be here anyway.

Hospitals here are closing and cutting back services because they can't get reimbursed from the federal government for the care they should be paying for. We have 18 to 20 hour waits in ERs because illegals use it as their primary care and to drop anchor babies, $5 co pays and they are out the door.

I understand that some people don't like the heavy handed immigration standards we have here. If you have a problem with them then its your problem.

You don't live in a small town where you have to carry a gun when you go out at night because you never know when your going to be running into a pack of illegals outside your door or drug runners who will shot you to not get caught.
Your not the ones who have to clean up the trash including dirty diapers, condoms and human waste that they leave everywhere.
Your not the ones picking up dead bodies when a van with 30 people crash or of people that die trying to cross the boarder and don't make it.
Your not the ones that go out and pull panties off rape trees (this is a tree where the smuggles display panties of their victims as trophies)
You are not the ones getting exposed to every disease that come across the boarder.
You are not the ones having military gun stashes found just miles from your house.
You are not the ones who have a drug WAR going on just miles from your home or having the roads closed so the running shoot outs don't make it to your home.

Don't like Joe and the way he does things to bad... We wish all our Sheriffs were just like him.

Don't think for a minute that only brown skinned people get caught up in sweeps or are asked for ID, anyone and everyone is asked. When was the last time you couldn't get in or out of a town with out being stopped both ways so your licence can be checked,,, happens here all the time.

RANT OFF

Yep.