Congratulations, America!

[crossbowboy]

[POL]Congratulations, America!

We have given Bush a double victory:
Not only have we given him four more years, we have finally demonstrated the long dreamed-of ability to screw OURSELVES - thus leaving the Admin free to spend more time vacationing and cleaning out the employee retirement accounts of their big corporation buddies.

I'd give you guys a flower, but they're all dead . . .

If you want me, I'll be getting blind drunk in the corner.

(edit to add

Oh, what was that sound? Just Bin Laden falling over in his tent from laughing too hard . . .

 

[Swampthing]

thus leaving the Admin free to spend more time vacationing and cleaning out the employee retirement accounts of their big corporation buddies.

That's the least of our problems.

 

[rescath]

God have mercy on us. We're in deep trouble. Of course, I would be saying the same thing if Kerry had won.

 

[crossbowboy]

Yeah, but why rub salt into wounds that we don't even know we HAVE yet?

 

[MaxTheKnife]

If I were a moderator, you would be in Time Out right now. There's no way you can claim that you didn't know this post doesn't belong here. It belongs in Take It Outside or the Political forum. Do you really think we need this kind of inflamatory bullshit rigt now on this particular day in this particular 4 year period? Well, do you Crossbowboy? I hope this post is not only moved but removed as in deleted. That's my vote anyway.

 

[old bear]

YEP. I fear what the next four years will bring, but America has spoken. In the end I guess that we deserve the government that we get. I only hope that America can survive the next four years and come out with some of our Constitution left. I fully expect to see the "war" in Iraq really hit high gear now that Bush in re-elected. I think he was holding the dogs back until after the election. I also think that gas prices at the pumps will now start to rise steadily, and that Bush's big oil buddies were holding down the gas prices so that Bush could win. I did not much like Kerry, but almost anybody, or anything, would have been better than Bush.

 

[onetimer]

Nobody is forcing any of you to stay please feal free to leave the country.

 

[crossbowboy]

Max - this post is in the "Election Day 2004" forum. Did you perhaps think I was referring to some other election? If so, I'm sure you would have cast the same knee-jerk, "processed-fear-product" buying vote that you did in this one. Go chant "USA USA" with the firefighters (who got screwed too, BTW). Ever wonder why your bills have been harder to pay lately? Or do you make over $200K annually? (If you're here, I doubt it . . .)

Onetimer - I just might take you up on that, my kids will be of draft age pretty quickly.

 

[rescath]

ha, ha, ha -- the Diebold guys did a great job of rigging this one ...

 

[Texian]

Rescath, why not start a thread on your reasons to believe that the elections were rigged? Proof? Texian

 

[rescath]

Rescath, why not start a thread on your reasons to believe that the elections were rigged? Proof? Texian

There's no point. www.blackboxvoting.org
Zogby exit polls had Kerry getting 311 electoral votes.
Everywhere you had paper balloting, the announced results closely matched the exit polls. Everywhere you had electronic voting, the announced results were grossly higher than what th exit polling had suggested.

 

[Thomas Paine]

Would you like some cheese with that Whine? Bush isn't the perfect president but he is a damn sight better than the Godless commie pinko motherless son sKerry. Do not let the door hit you in the arse on the way out of the country. or on the way to the democratic underground.

 

[F.Drew]

>>To a season of political and social upheaval was added a strange and brooding apprehension of hideous physical danger; a danger widespread and all-embracing, such a danger as may be imagined only in the most terrible phantasms of the night. I recall that the people went about with pale and worried faces, and whispered warnings and prophecies which no one dared consciously repeat or acknowledge to himself that he had heard. A sense of monstrous guilt was upon the land, and out of the abysses between the stars swept chill currents that made men shiver in dark and lonely places. There was a demoniac alteration in the sequence of the seasons the autumn heat lingered fearsomely, and everyone felt that the world and perhaps the universe had passed from the control of known gods or forces to that of gods or forces which were unknown. <<

 

[F.Drew]

Would you like some cheese with that Whine? Bush isn't the perfect president but he is a damn sight better than the Godless commie pinko motherless son sKerry. Do not let the door hit you in the arse on the way out of the country. or on the way to the democratic underground.

If I were a moderator, you would be in Time Out right now. There's no way you can claim that you didn't know this post doesn't belong here. It belongs in Take It Outside or the Political forum. Do you really think we need this kind of inflamatory bullshit rigt now on this particular day in this particular 4 year period? Well, do you ? I hope this post is not only moved but removed as in deleted. That's my vote anyway.

Just seemed that these two posts went together.

Thomas, you missed the point of why Kerry needed to be elected, not for his personal beliefs, but for the good of the country. With a rabid right Legislature, a counter-balancing president was needed to bring the US back to moderation.

Without checks and balances, the Constitution is REALLY dead now, PATRIOT Act II (aka "The End") is steamrolled through, special interest spending goes unfettered, spending continues, corporations are left to self-regulate their own pollution, gov has unchecked powers to invade privacy and Constitutionally protected areas, et al.

What a lot of folks seems to have bought hook line and sinker, is that Kerry could have somehow taken away your guns, unleashed gays to attack your family/marriage, and saved God.

Last time I checked, the President is supposed to be in charge of the military and have veto power, to keep the other branches of gov checked and balanced. He does NOT legislate. SO, since we all KNEW that the KKKongress was KKKonservative, then rational people would have known that their guns were safe, their God was protected, and the gays were kept at bay.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[mistaken1]

Would the democrats repeal the patriot act or would they use it to cement their hold on the country?

Another four years of whining, woo hoo what a treat to look forward to.

"We owe it to the people that we represent to reassess and try and fix what went wrong and come back with a winning coalition and strategy four years from now and try to figure out a way to win the country back," Davis said.

Very much an us verses them focus. I believe they would (and will when in power) use the patriot act to maintain their hold.

How did the Clintons use the IRS and the Justice Department? For the good of the country or to "f@#k with my enemies and reward my friends"?

It does not matter who is in office, we are screwed.

 

[Oilpatch Hand]

Zogby exit polls had Kerry getting 311 electoral votes.

You see...this is your mistake. And Zogby's. You (and millions of Democrats) were silly enough to believe the exit polls (which aren't actual votes.) In reality, most voters are getting tired of exit polling, and are lying to the pollsters about their vote when they get cornered by them. In this case, you had a large number of Bush supporters telling exit pollsters that they had voted for Kerry, when in fact, they had not.

Your problem is that you were altogether too willing to believe these exit polls, which were already losing credibility before voters started sabotaging them in earnest in 2000, instead of relying on the actual vote count, which, in reality, is what determines the popular vote winner.

One has to keep one's eye on the ball (the vote count itself), not its shadow (the exit poll.) Increasingly, the latter is becoming less and less a reflection of the former, simply because people are tired of dealing with the exit pollsters.

 

[FireDance]

I think

You see...this is your mistake. And Zogby's. You (and millions of Democrats) were silly enough to believe the exit polls (which aren't actual votes.) In reality, most voters are getting tired of exit polling, and are lying to the pollsters about their vote when they get cornered by them. In this case, you had a large number of Bush supporters telling exit pollsters that they had voted for Kerry, when in fact, they had not.

Your problem is that you were altogether too willing to believe these exit polls, which were already losing credibility before voters started sabotaging them in earnest in 2000, instead of relying on the actual vote count, which, in reality, is what determines the popular vote winner.

One has to keep one's eye on the ball (the vote count itself), not its shadow (the exit poll.) Increasingly, the latter is becoming less and less a reflection of the former, simply because people are tired of dealing with the exit pollsters.

This might be right on. How many of you would have told these fools how you actually voted? I think EVERYONE is sick to death of polls and a good number of folks DO lie about what ever is being asked because of it. It's like having a telemarketer call. People feel it infringes upon their rights and do this to "get back" at the pollsters. I know I do - hahahahaha!

 

[Ought Six]

FD:

The early Clinton era proved your whole premise false. With a Dimbocrat Congress (both houses), he still could not get any of his desired programs passed. The Dems can still obstruct legislation in the Senate, as the Repubs do not have the needed 60-vote majority to prevent the Dems from blocking pretty much whatever they want.