Solar CME EXPLOSION ON FARSIDE OF SUN TOUCHES EARTH (July 15 2021)

Heliobas Disciple

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July 15 2021
FARSIDE EXPLOSION TOUCHES EARTH:

Imagine an explosion on the farside of the sun so powerful, we could feel it here on Earth. It happened on July 13th. The debris emerged in a circular cloud known as a 'halo CME':

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Above: The July 13th CME imaged by SOHO coronagraphs

When space weather forecasters first saw this explosion, there was a moment of excitement. It appeared to be heading directly toward Earth. However, data from NASA's STEREO-A spacecraft indicated otherwise. In fact, the CME was heading directly away from us--a farside event.

Now for the interesting part: Although the explosion occured on the farside of the sun, it still peppered Earth with high-energy particles. The Energetic and Relativistic Nuclei and Electron (ERNE) detector onboard SOHO recorded a surge in hard radiation not long after the CME appeared:


How did this radiation reach our planet? Rami Vainio, a professor of space physics at the University of Turku (Finland), who works with ERNE data says "it’s not possible to answer that question definitely without a detailed analysis involving multiple spacecraft." However, she speculates that the lift-off of the CME may have created a global shock wave on the farside of the sun. Particles spilling over the edge might have spiraled toward our planet.

Of particular interest are the green data points in the plot above. These are the most energetic protons ERNE can detect. An uptick in green after the CME indicates unusually "hard" radiation---the kind produced in the leading edge of of a hard-charging CME.

The source of the blast might have been the same sunspot (AR2838) that produced the first X-flare of Solar Cycle 25 on July 3rd. That sunspot is currently transiting the farside of the sun approximately where the CME came from. Within the next week AR2838 is expected to return--and then, maybe, the real fun begins. Stay tuned!
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Thanks Tom for the video.

That was the spaceweather blurb on the (apparently) THIRD CME on the far side, according to your video this one would've been much worse than the first one had it been earth facing. Which leads me to ask the question - are the blasts building in intensity just as the spot is about to rotate into Earth view?

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ANOTHER MAGNIFICENT HALO CME: It just happened again. On July 16th, a magnificent halo CME billowed away from the farside of the sun. This is the 3rd such explosion in the last three days:

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This is a sign of continued activity from a hidden farside sunspot group. The active region could turn to face Earth within the next week. Stay tuned! Aurora alerts: SMS Text.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Watching these blasts build as the sunspot gets closer prompted me to create this meme. My first! (so not the greatest...) I do not mean to offend anyone - the 'hold my beer' meme is very common. If you're not familiar with it - it is usually used when one perceives someone doing something bold and daring you or defying you to top it - hold my beer signifies - dare/challenge accepted and the response is way worse than the original challenge and putting the arrogance of the challenger in its rightful place. [It comes from the scenario of two guys at a bar, first one boasts to the second one they did something the second one can't top, second guy tells his friend - hold my beer - and then goes on to completely decimate the first guy]. So no offense to any one who thinks this is blashpemous, it's certainly not meant to be - quite the opposite if you look at the meaning:

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Watching these blasts build as the sunspot gets closer prompted me to create this meme. My first! (so not the greatest...) I do not mean to offend anyone - the 'hold my beer' meme is very common. If you're not familiar with it - it is usually used when one perceives someone doing something bold and daring you or defying you to top it - hold my beer signifies - dare/challenge accepted and the response is way worse than the original challenge and putting the arrogance of the challenger in its rightful place. [It comes from the scenario of two guys at a bar, first one boasts to the second one they did something the second one can't top, second guy tells his friend - hold my beer - and then goes on to completely decimate the first guy]. So no offense to any one who thinks this is blashpemous, it's certainly not meant to be - quite the opposite if you look at the meaning:

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Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Watching these blasts build as the sunspot gets closer prompted me to create this meme. My first! (so not the greatest...) I do not mean to offend anyone - the 'hold my beer' meme is very common. If you're not familiar with it - it is usually used when one perceives someone doing something bold and daring you or defying you to top it - hold my beer signifies - dare/challenge accepted and the response is way worse than the original challenge and putting the arrogance of the challenger in its rightful place. [It comes from the scenario of two guys at a bar, first one boasts to the second one they did something the second one can't top, second guy tells his friend - hold my beer - and then goes on to completely decimate the first guy]. So no offense to any one who thinks this is blashpemous, it's certainly not meant to be - quite the opposite if you look at the meaning:

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No, I think you nailed it.

Seems He was drinking a cold one there toward the end of construction on The Tower of Babel, as well.

I’ll bet He brews killer beer........

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Heliobas Disciple

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Today's update:

YES - we got another one, this one very fast moving. This sunspot complex is about to become Earth facing. Nothing we can really do about it except pray it calms down before it gets here.

Also in today's space weather news there is a rare high latitude sunspot that is now turning into view. The article says this is unremarkable other than where it's coming from but I'm wondering if it's indicative of whatever is going on on the back side and if any of those mega flares actually came from it. We shall see...

btw, I have noticed spaceweather.com (the site) is giving these flares, as the get larger and faster, less 'attention'. No alert emails as I got for the first one. And today they didn't even post the .gif in the main news, only a link. maybe they don't want to worry the masses...

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STRONG FARSIDE SOLAR ACTIVITY: Since July 13th, NASA and ESA spacecraft have observed multiple CMEs billowing away from the farside of the sun. The latest came today, July 17th, when a CME emerged from behind the sun's eastern limb: movie. It all adds up to an explosive farside sunspot group, which could turn to face Earth early next week. Solar flare alerts: SMS Text.

HIGH LATITUDE SUNSPOT: An unusual sunspot has emerged in the sun's southern hemisphere. Located 43 degrees south of the sun's equator, AR2844 is a rare high-latitude sunspot:


Sunspots are a mostly-equatorial phenomenon. According to the Solar-Terrestrial Center of Excellence, 95% of sunspots in the historical record have latitudes less than 30 degrees, and nearly three quarters were crowded within 20 degrees of the sun's equator.

AR2844 is an outlier, located 2 to 3 times as far from the equator as a typical sunspot. Since the Space Age began, only a handful of sunspots have been seen at such high latitudes. Research shows that high-latitude sunspots appear most often during the early years of solar cycles. That's exactly where we are now--at the beginning of Solar Cycle 25.

Other than its latitude, AR2844 seems to be unremarkable. Nothing distinguishes it, magnetically or otherwise, from other spots on the sun today. Consider this a curiosity for sunspot nerds!

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here is the .gif of today's explosion:
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Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
I think that is one big one a day for 4 days now. We will be in line with the active area in 4 days.

My father is a retired PhD Physicist/Astronomer. I called him tonight and asked about how long an area stays "Active" on he sun re CME/Solar flares. It was the first question I have ever asked him, within his field of knowledge that he could not give me a definite answer to. It was basically "It is to random to know", so I guess he did answer, it is just not very helpful for making decisions about prepping for it.

He did say the polarization of the CME in relation to the polarization of the magnetosphere at the time of impact can greatly increase or decrease the impact of the event. Maybe we will get lucky if one hits us and the polarization will help cancel it out, but then again it is 2021.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
[QUOTE="Heliobas Disciple, post: 8588757,


AR2844 is an outlier, located 2 to 3 times as far from the equator as a typical sunspot. Since the Space Age began, only a handful of sunspots have been seen at such high latitudes. Research shows that high-latitude sunspots appear most often during the early years of solar cycles. That's exactly where we are now--at the beginning of Solar Cycle 25.


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She’ll be coming round the corner when she comes...

so what was the shelf-life of an average super-developed technological civilization during a rapidly and exponentially weakening magnetosphere event and after a major super X-class solar flare again?
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
Did you get the moral of the story, as relates to a MASSIVE CME ?

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Possibly not, but seems to me that when one thinks they got the coon by the tail, One might sometimes find out they got a whole different kind of critter they’re dealing with, sort of like when you think that your biggest problem is trying to find a parking space at the local ice cream emporium, but actually the solar flare just knocked out the intrinsic value of your entire civilization...
 

FireDance

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Possibly not, but seems to me that when one thinks they got the coon by the tail, One might sometimes find out they got a whole different kind of critter they’re dealing with, sort of like when you think that your biggest problem is trying to find a parking space at the local ice cream emporium, but actually the solar flare just knocked out the intrinsic value of your entire civilization...
Made perfect sense to me (your reply). But then, and I hate to say it, it looks like Mr. Sun is about to shoot a fart flare right at us. Oh well, can’t tell, can’t change it. Might as well pray on and have a nice day. Or night.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I think that is one big one a day for 4 days now. We will be in line with the active area in 4 days.

My father is a retired PhD Physicist/Astronomer. I called him tonight and asked about how long an area stays "Active" on he sun re CME/Solar flares. It was the first question I have ever asked him, within his field of knowledge that he could not give me a definite answer to. It was basically "It is to random to know", so I guess he did answer, it is just not very helpful for making decisions about prepping for it.

He did say the polarization of the CME in relation to the polarization of the magnetosphere at the time of impact can greatly increase or decrease the impact of the event. Maybe we will get lucky if one hits us and the polarization will help cancel it out, but then again it is 2021.

Yep it’s just like lightning, I’m alive today because the polarization of the bolt was the less damaging one.
 

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
Speaking of the sun, I don’t know if it’s smoke from the fires out west, or dust coming from Africa but the sun has been red here since last night. It was a big red ball in the sky at sunset, and today is hazy with a red morning sun. We’re in northern Michigan so that’s curious.

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mecoastie

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Speaking of the sun, I don’t know if it’s smoke from the fires out west, or dust coming from Africa but the sun has been red here since last night. It was a big red ball in the sky at sunset, and today is hazy with a red morning sun. We’re in northern Michigan so that’s curious.

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Our news had a bit on the smoke from out West affecting us here in te Northeast.
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Over the next few nights if you're out watching the night sky and the Moon very abruptly and hugely increases in brightness, take a long thorough shower so your ass will be clean when you kiss it goodbye. Not right then and there, probably, but if such an event happens to the Moon it will be game over for the other side of the planet and our own weather will be massively impacted like nothing any of us has ever seen. If you're on the daylight side when that happens, don't wait for the shower to pucker up. ;)

On a more serious note, there are at least four (and possibly more) spacecraft doing nothing but watching the Sun, so while the peasants may not get the word in time the scientists will get at least some warning of an incoming mega-solar storm. All four spacecraft are apparently still in active service.

Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO)

Wind

Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE

Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR, formerly known as Triana, unofficially known as GoreSat)
 
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Heliobas Disciple

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I suppose two morals from one story is just plain good shootin’.


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BTW, I don't totally agree with this image or with the moral of the story you were aiming for because I always pray for mercy, for the 'first do no harm' approach. But as for the arrogance of TPTB, who think they are gods (little g) - for sure I believe God (capital G) laughs when they say they are going to do a reset. "You want a reset? I'll show you a reset and it's not going to be one you're in charge of". But as tempting as it is to want to see that happen - no - I'd rather not. It would be horrific on a scale unimaginable. I would never wish for that no matter how evil the opponent is.

HD

ETA - (edited first line to say 'this image or with' to clarify)
 
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Samuel Adams

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I haven’t advocated “doing harm”.

There is a struggle, here on earth, in the very immediate.

The sun has the gun, so to speak.

In the video, a man and large wild cat were fighting, and those below were witness to the fight, one having the power to end the fight.
Upon expressing concern of hitting “the good guy”, the “good guy” replied, “Shoot ! Shoot !! One of us (contenders in battle) has got to have some relief !!”

That is all.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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I found a fascinating twitter feed. I will try to post some videos from it but I don't know if it will work so if this topic interests you, go to this guy's twitter page.


OK - looks like I can't post the videos themselves, which are MUST SEE'S (especially the second one)- but this is the text before each video:

View: https://twitter.com/halocme/status/1416183862296711168

Halo CME @halocme
7:51 PM · Jul 16, 2021

The third halo CME from the far side of the Sun (on 15 July) seems to be particularly powerful. The footprints of the shock waves driven by the CME are seen in AIA difference images, not only along the limb, but also across the visible disk, apparently from polar regions.


View: https://twitter.com/halocme/status/1416493874017624070

Halo CME @halocme
4:23 PM · Jul 17, 2021

The latest CME on 17 July 2021, from a region on the invisible side of the Sun, shows presence in EUV images from SDO/AIA. An eruption itself followed by an EUV wave propagating not only along the limb, but later across the disk - westward toward disk center.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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I haven’t advocated “doing harm”.

There is a struggle, here on earth, in the very immediate.

The sun has the gun, so to speak.

In the video, a man and large wild cat were fighting, and those below were witness to the fight, one having the power to end the fight.
Upon expressing concern of hitting “the good guy”, the “good guy” replied, “Shoot ! Shoot !! One of us (contenders in battle) has got to have some relief !!”

That is all.

I know, I got it and I didn't mean to imply you were advocating it. I was just saying that it's so tempting to want God to come down and put an end to the evil globalists, but that we are all going to be casualties when that happens is not something I look forward to. And I know you don't either. I do wish he could put an end to their plans without any of us being collateral damage though.

ETA: PS - for clarity - I was mostly clarifying my own meme that I posted and the picture I posted, more than your story. I had just posted 'though the Heavens fall' and 'hold my beer' - and as gratifying as that seem to me in the moment - when I really think about the consequences of a Carrington type event that could happen if these cme's get stronger and are Earth facing, I pray it never comes to that.

HD
 
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packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I found a fascinating twitter feed. I will try to post some videos from it but I don't know if it will work so if this topic interests you, go to this guy's twitter page.


OK - looks like I can't post the videos themselves, which are MUST SEE'S (especially the second one)- but this is the text before each video:

View: https://twitter.com/halocme/status/1416183862296711168

Halo CME @halocme
7:51 PM · Jul 16, 2021

The third halo CME from the far side of the Sun (on 15 July) seems to be particularly powerful. The footprints of the shock waves driven by the CME are seen in AIA difference images, not only along the limb, but also across the visible disk, apparently from polar regions.


View: https://twitter.com/halocme/status/1416493874017624070

Halo CME @halocme
4:23 PM · Jul 17, 2021

The latest CME on 17 July 2021, from a region on the invisible side of the Sun, shows presence in EUV images from SDO/AIA. An eruption itself followed by an EUV wave propagating not only along the limb, but later across the disk - westward toward disk center.

Looks like the Sun is about to have micro nova!
 
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