WAR China Signals a Military Response to a Taiwan Visit by Pelosi

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The Chinese military will from now on conduct "regular" drills on the eastern side of the median line of the Taiwan Strait, Chinese state television reported on Sunday, citing a commentator. (@Reuters)
 

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Taiwan to conduct live-fire artillery drills amid Chinese pressure
By ROMAN MEITAV, REUTERS

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Taiwan's military is set to conduct live-fire artillery drills in Pingtung County on Tuesday and Thursday to test combat readiness in response to rising pressure from China, which is conducting live-fire military exercises surrounding Taiwan, according to CNA.
The planned drills in the southern Taiwan county will involve the firing of 78 155mm self-propelled howitzers and six 120mm mortars and will be carried out by the 8th Army Corps' 43rd Artillery Command and 333rd Mechanized Infantry Brigade, the defense commands in Hualien and Taitung counties in eastern Taiwan, and the coast guard, according to CNA.
In addition, the Army will conduct its annual exercise on Sept. 5, also in Pingtung, involving snipers from combined arms battalions, combat vehicles, Clouded Leopard armored vehicles, and mortars.

Maritime standoff
Chinese and Taiwanese warships played high-seas "cat and mouse" on Sunday ahead of the scheduled end of four days of unprecedented Chinese military exercises launched in reaction to a visit to Taiwan by the US House speaker.
Some 10 warships each from China and Taiwan sailed at close quarters in the Taiwan Strait, with some Chinese vessels crossing the median line, an unofficial buffer separating the two sides, according to local media.
The island's defense ministry said in a release multiple Chinese military ships, aircraft, and drones were simulating attacks on the island and its navy. It said it had sent aircraft and ships to react "appropriately."
Taiwan said its shore-based anti-ship missiles and its Patriot surface-to-air missiles were on standby.
Mobilizing fighter planes, helicopters and warships, the drills aim to simulate a blockade of Taiwan and include practicing an “attack on targets at sea,” Chinese state news agency Xinhua said.

Xinhua added that Beijing has mobilized more than 100 planes, and more than 10 frigates and destroyers, including the J-20 stealth fighter and a Type 055 destroyer, the crown jewels of China’s air and naval forces.
This is the closest the Chinese military ever came to Taiwan, with some of the drills happening less than 20km from the coast.
A particular focus of Beijing’s drills is Taiwan’s eastern flank, a strategically vital area for supplies to Taiwan’s military, as well as any potential US reinforcements.
A “blockade scenario” was long speculated to be one of China’s preferred strategies were it to try to conquer Taiwan, and this week’s drills have revealed how that might come to action.
Such a siege would attempt to prevent any entry or exit of commercial or military ships and aircraft, also denying US forces stationed in the region to access Taiwan.

Live-fire maritime drills
China's People's Liberation Army began four days of live-fire drills in six maritime areas around Taiwan last Thursday.
That day, the PLA fired 11 Dongfeng missiles into waters near the island, in apparent retaliation for a 19-hour visit to Taiwan by US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi early last week.
Taiwan's transport ministry said on Sunday afternoon it was gradually lifting restrictions on flights through its airspace, saying notifications for the drills were no longer in effect.
But Taiwan would continue to direct flights and ships away from one of the drill zones, which China has never confirmed, off its east coast until Monday morning, it said.
China's military has said the sea and air joint exercises, north, southwest and east of Taiwan, had a focus on land-strike and sea-assault capabilities.
The United States called the exercises an escalation.
"These activities are a significant escalation in China's efforts to change the status quo. They are provocative, irresponsible and raise the risk of miscalculation."
White House spokesperson
"These activities are a significant escalation in China's efforts to change the status quo. They are provocative, irresponsible and raise the risk of miscalculation," a White House spokesperson said.
"They are also at odds with our long-standing goal of maintaining peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait, which is what the world expects."

Taiwan tensions
China says its relations with Taiwan are an internal matter and it reserves the right to bring the island under its control, by force if necessary. Taiwan rejects China's claims saying only Taiwan's people can decide their future.
China has also warned the United States not to "act rashly" and create a greater crisis.
Referring to the response to Pelosi's visit, the Communist Party's People's Daily newspaper said China had adopted "effective measures that fully demonstrates that China is fully determined and capable of safeguarding national unity and safeguarding ... sovereignty and territorial integrity."

Taiwan's Premier Su Tseng-chang told reporters that China had "arrogantly" used military action to disrupt peace and he called on Beijing to not flex its military muscle.
Taiwan's defense ministry said on Saturday its forces scrambled jets to warn away 20 Chinese aircraft, including 14 that crossed the median line. It also detected 14 Chinese ships conducting activity around the Taiwan Strait.
The ministry released a photograph showing Taiwanese sailors monitoring a nearby Chinese vessel.

Political backlash
As part of its response to Pelosi's visit, China has halted communication through various channels with the United States including between military theater commands and on climate change.
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken accused China of taking "irresponsible" steps and moving away from prioritizing peaceful resolution toward the use of force.
Pelosi, a long-time China critic and a political ally of President Joe Biden, arrived in Taiwan late on Tuesday on the highest-level visit to the island by an American official in decades, despite Chinese warnings. She said her visit showed unwavering US commitment to supporting Taiwan's democracy.
"The world faces a choice between autocracy and democracy," she said. She also stressed that her trip was "not about changing the status quo in Taiwan or the region."

Taiwan has been self-ruled since 1949, when Mao Zedong's communists took power in Beijing after defeating Chiang Kai-shek's Kuomintang nationalists in a civil war, prompting their retreat to the island.
Speaking during a visit to the Philippines, Blinken said the United States had been hearing concern from allies about what he called China's dangerous and destabilizing actions but Washington sought to avoid escalating the situation.
China's foreign minister, Wang Yi, on Friday accused Blinken of spreading "misinformation."
 

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The strategy here is to keep the Taiwanese off balance and unsuspecting when the invasion is actually going to happen. The US needs to base two carrier battlegroups in the region and practice regularly with the Japanese and Australians defensive exercises off Taiwan.

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This is completely in line with everything that experts/ppl watching this have predicted; that China will move the status quo and keep conducting exercises simulating an invasion until one day the exercises become real



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The Chinese military will from now on conduct "regular" drills on the eastern side of the median line of the Taiwan Strait, Chinese state television reported on Sunday, citing a commentator. (@Reuters)
 

night driver

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So, we won't know whether it is a sim, or a cold start invasion. Though after 2 or 3 sims, it WILL NOT BE a "Cold Start" invasion.
 

Doomer Doug

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We should start a poll for when the US carrier groups plan to run the straight and lit it up with the Chinese warships. I would say at least a week, say the week of the 22nd to 27th.
 

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We should start a poll for when the US carrier groups plan to run the straight and lit it up with the Chinese warships. I would say at least a week, say the week of the 22nd to 27th.

US carrier groups have been obsolete since the 1950s, though the admirals will never admit it. Since WWII US carriers have only been used against 3rd tier opponents. Peer or near-peer adversaries who have advanced missile and nuclear technology can take out US carriers (as the US could take out theirs).

Nuclear-powered carriers have two glaring weaknesses (besides the possibility of sinking) which are never publicly addressed: enough missile strikes would eventually be able to breach the reactor containment or radioactive steam piping. This would make damage control impossible and cause crew casualties.

The other - like all surface ships - is that smaller, tactical nukes can destroy a carrier (or other ship) without even getting especially close. A nearby nuclear detonation will cause thermal and blast damage but even a somewhat distant miss would create a mountainous plume of highly radioactive water. This would fall down on ships for many miles in the vicinity, killing affected crews. Beyond the range of a few miles or tens of miles, the radioactive plume would still drift for hundreds of miles with the wind and be capable of causing casualties/deaths.

Read up on what happened during the Operation Crossroads test in 1946. The radioactive contamination I discussed made the third planned test in the series impossible to conduct.

US carriers conducted operations against North Korea, North Vietnam and a host of smaller countries since WWII. We've never used them against a major (and nuclear) power and with good reason.

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mecoastie

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So, we won't know whether it is a sim, or a cold start invasion. Though after 2 or 3 sims, it WILL NOT BE a "Cold Start" invasion.
When they start loading all the ships with equipment. Not just 2 or 3 but all of them. Right now it is just warships and planes.
 

Doomer Doug

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Doc1 obama et al HAVE to run the strait or China will prove to the wirld they own it. As for the dead obama doesn't care and both china and obama want a massacre. All of you chew on that for a bit.
 

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US carrier groups have been obsolete since the 1950s, though the admirals will never admit it. Since WWII US carriers have only been used against 3rd tier opponents. Peer or near-peer adversaries who have advanced missile and nuclear technology can take out US carriers (as the US could take out theirs).

Nuclear-powered carriers have two glaring weaknesses (besides the possibility of sinking) which are never publicly addressed: enough missile strikes would eventually be able to breach the reactor containment or radioactive steam piping. This would make damage control impossible and cause crew casualties.

The other - like all surface ships - is that smaller, tactical nukes can destroy a carrier (or other ship) without even getting especially close. A nearby nuclear detonation will cause thermal and blast damage but even a somewhat distant miss would create a mountainous plume of highly radioactive water. This would fall down on ships for many miles in the vicinity, killing affected crews. Beyond the range of a few miles or tens of miles, the radioactive plume would still drift for hundreds of miles with the wind and be capable of causing casualties/deaths.

Read up on what happened during the Operation Crossroads test in 1946. The radioactive contamination I discussed made the third planned test in the series impossible to conduct.

US carriers conducted operations against North Korea, North Vietnam and a host of smaller countries since WWII. We've never used them against a major (and nuclear) power and with good reason.

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Doc

Doc,

You left out the initial radiation burst from the detonation and the neutron activation of materials in the ship from the neutrons in that burst. The estimation from Test Able's air burst was that if fully manned, USS Nevada's entire crew would have been dead or dead men walking, including those in the bowels of ship would have received a minimum of 1000 rems, while those on deck and other unshielded areas would have been exposed to 10,000 rems. And USS Nevada was 615 yd (562 m) from the detonation point.

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Doc1

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Doc,

You left out the initial radiation burst from the detonation and the neutron activation of materials in the ship from the neutrons in that burst. The estimation from Test Able's air burst was that if fully manned, USS Nevada's entire crew would have been dead or dead men walking, including those in the bowels of ship would have received a minimum of 1000 rems, while those on deck and other unshielded areas would have been exposed to 10,000 rems. And USS Nevada was 615 yd (562 m) from the detonation point.

HC

Housecarl, I'm aware of all of those things, but was trying to avoid writing a book ;-) The neutron activation affects virtually everything, but one thing the scientists of the day were unaware of was the activated sodium in the seawater which created the majority of the initial radioactive contamination. That and the fission products in the water made the salvage and detailed study of the ships impossible.

It was discovered that it was impossible to adequately decontaminate any of the ships. Even the manned monitoring fleet - which was many miles away - became hopelessly contaminated from radioactive seawater brought in through its water intakes.

The new, unmanned, autonomous Russian nuclear torpedo, the Poseidon, relies on neutron activation to create a huge radioactive tsunami and inundate coastal target areas.

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Doc
 

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Please do write books, both of you @Doc1 and @Housecarl
..the insight and depth of analysis is much welcomed by we wee ones who never served, nor seriously studied the subject, and are left to the daunting task of sluffing through the cacophony of ill informed journalists and breathless bobble headed experts to find strands of serious assessments.
 

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Pentagon still assesses China will not invade Taiwan in next 2 years
By Lara Seligman 08/08/2022
03:09 PM EDT​

Colin Kahl, the undersecretary of defense for policy, said China’s reaction to Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit was a “manufactured” crisis, noting that U.S representatives regularly travel to Taiwan. | Getty Images
The Pentagon has not changed its assessment that China is not planning to invade Taiwan in the next two years, the Defense Department’s top policy office said Monday, despite Beijing’s launching unprecedented military drills around the island last week.
In answer to a question about whether the military has a new assessment as to whether China will take Taiwan by force in the next two years given the events of the last week, Colin Kahl, the undersecretary of defense for policy, said succinctly: “No.”
Beijing last week undertook an unprecedented series of military exercises in response to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taipei, encircling the island with six active military zones and repeatedly flying aircraft across the median line separating Taiwan’s territorial waters from China’s.

The Chinese military also launched roughly a dozen missiles near Taiwan, including at least one that appeared to fly directly over the island.
Kahl’s comments that the Pentagon does not think that China will imminently invade Taiwan reflect attempts by the Biden administration to downplay the drills, with officials saying they are more bluster than an indication of military activity.
But Kahl condemned China’s attempt to “salami slice their way into a new status quo” by repeatedly overflying the median line.
“Really, it’s the activities in the strait itself, the sheer number of maritime and air assets that are crossing over this kind of de facto centerline, creeping closer to Taiwan’s shores,” that officials are noticing, Kahl said.
“It’s clear that Beijing is trying to create a kind of new normal with the goal of trying to coerce Taiwan but also frankly to coerce the international community given the importance of the Taiwan Strait to the global economy,” he added.
Kahl said China’s reaction to Pelosi’s visit was a “manufactured” crisis, noting that U.S representatives regularly travel to Taiwan.

The United States continues to support a One China policy and does not recognize Taiwan as a separate nation, but Washington supports Taipei with arms sales for self-defense.
“Our policy has not changed, it is support for the status quo,” Kahl said. “China’s policy is what’s changed.”
 

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Biden says he’s ‘not worried’ about China’s increased aggression toward Taiwan following Pelosi’s visit
Published Mon, Aug 8 202211:15 AM EDTUpdated 5 Hours Ago
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  • President Joe Biden said Monday he is “not worried” about China’s military exercises around Taiwan.
  • “I’m concerned that they’re moving as much as they are,” said Biden. “But I don’t think they’re going to do anything more.”
  • Biden’s relative calm reflected the deliberate American strategy of not responding to Chinese bellicosity with equally hot saber-rattling.
WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden said Monday he is “not worried” about China’s military exercises around Taiwan, adding that while he is “concerned that they’re moving as much as they are,” he does not think they’re going to continue to increase the pressure.
The remarks came one day after Beijing concluded 72 hours of intense maneuvers and missile tests over and around Taiwan. The exercises involved dozens of Chinese fighter jets and warships to mimic a military blockade of the self-governing island that Beijing considers a province.

Biden’s relative calm reflected the deliberate American strategy of not responding to Chinese bellicosity with equally hot saber-rattling.
It also reflects a broader opinion within the Biden administration that Beijing does not intend to make good on its implicit threat to invade Taiwan, at least not in the near term.
Given this assessment, the United States has adopted an approach, for now, of heightened vigilance, but steadfast refusal to be drawn into a military game of chicken in the Pacific.
Last Thursday, the White House announced that Biden would keep a U.S. naval aircraft carrier strike group in the South China Sea longer than originally planned, in response to Beijing’s increased aggression toward Taiwan.
At the same time, a Biden spokesman said the United States would postpone a previously scheduled intercontinental ballistic missile, or ICBM, test.

The decisions signaled Washington’s desire to maintain American military alertness in the region, while also denying Beijing the opportunity to point to the long-planned U.S. missile test as evidence that America was responding to China’s own missile launches near Taiwan with military preparations of its own.
Beijing claimed its military exercises were conducted in retaliation for U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan last week.

The visit by the California Democrat, which the Biden White House publicly defended but privately opposed, marked the first time in 25 years that an American House speaker, a position second in line to the presidency, had visited Taiwan.
Asked Monday whether it was wise for Pelosi to have traveled to Taiwan given the tense U.S.-China relationship, Biden gave the standard response his administration has used for weeks.
“That was her decision,” he said, before boarding Air Force One en route to Kentucky, where Biden and first lady Jill Biden will visit communities impacted by catastrophic flooding last week.

 

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China's military exercises vs Taiwan set new precedents, but it's important to note what they have NOT done, at least yet. So far, based on TW & JP gov reporting, the PLA has not:

-- violated 12NM sea/air around Taiwan
-- Overflown the island with aircraft (more) 1/3
--Otherwise compelled TW to consider shooting first.
-- Mobilized Coast Guard or Maritime Militia, which would be key for actual blockade.
-- Marshaled major amphibious lift, including RO/ROs PLA did multiple ops over Strait centerline, but all seem north & south, not in center.

This could be viewed as restraint on China's part, but also are escalation steps they've reserved to show even great threat/seriousness *next time*. These exercises likely have been an intelligence bonanza for all concerned, and a status check on PLA joint Ness, or lack of it.
 

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Nancy Pelosi is defending her trip to Taiwan, saying it was "absolutely" worth it. https://t.co/6kY4Hi1oSP https://t.co/2YFuRDev9Z

Yeah it was worth it Her son tagged along and probably picked up some lucrative deals
View: https://twitter.com/ava3366/status/1557011580549844993?t=dN9hB_fLikMfoBQp6-VZMA&s=19

Nancy Pelosi: “China is one of the freest societies in the world”

Can you hear the screams of people in China being in Lockdown
@SpeakerPelosi ?

How about the hundreds put away in the DC Gulags?

RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/Deplorablemoo/status/1557027175131279362?s=20&t=wj6oUanQS0w5JMezaNgY5A


Patriots are singing the National Anthem in the DC Gulags this week to keep moral up while they’re being held in solitary confinement and tortured. Republicans have done NOTHING! Pray for our politically persecuted friends.
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/CrossTalk_News/status/1417447556880248833?s=20&t=wj6oUanQS0w5JMezaNgY5A


Apple Demands Taiwan Suppliers Use 'Made In China' Labels
View: https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1556932130109898752?t=7TUhO9Aitbgegfknejrzvw&s=19
 
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Nancy Pelosi: “China is one of the freest societies in the world”

She just claimed that the Republic of China (Taiwan) IS China.
Salt in the wound
 

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Analysis: What are amphibious capabilities of China armed forces in case of Taiwan invasion
Alain Henry de Frahan



US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s recent visit to Taiwan triggered Beijing’s anger, which takes the form of unprecedented military exercises around and even partly inside Taiwan's naval waters and air space. Let us focus on the amphibious capabilities of the People’s Liberation Army to actually take part in an invasion of Taiwan.
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ZTD-05 and ZBD-05 amphibious armored vehicles of the PLA Marine Corps in a training exercise on March 13, 2022 (Picture source: eng.chinamil.com.cn - Li Weike)
According to the China Military Power report issued in 2019 by the Defense Intelligence Agency, China’s anticipation that foreign forces would intervene in a Taiwan scenario led the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) to develop a range of systems to deter and deny foreign regional force projection. The implementation of former president Hu Jintao’s New Historic Missions in 2004 led to the incremental expansion of the military’s modernization priorities to develop a PLA capable of operating in new domains and at increasing distances from the mainland.

During this modernization process, the report explains, PLA ground, air, naval, and missile forces have become increasingly able to project power during peacetime and in the event of regional conflicts. Beijing almost certainly will use this growing ability to project power to bolster international perceptions of its role as a regional power and global stakeholder. Although Beijing states that its intent is to serve as a stabilizing force regionally, in practice the PLA’s actions frequently result in increased tensions. Since 2012, Beijing has routinely challenged Tokyo’s Senkaku Island claims in the East China Sea. China’s Coast Guard frequently conducts incursions into the contiguous zone surrounding the islands to further China’s claims, while its Navy operates around the claims to enforce administration. The PLA has expanded and militarized China’s outposts in the South China Sea, and China’s Coast Guard, backed by the PLAN, commonly harasses Philippine and Vietnamese ships in the region.
Examples of incremental improvements to PLA power projection in the region are readily found in annual military exercises and operations. For instance, in 2015 the PLA Air Force (PLAAF) carried out four exercise training missions past the first island chain through the Bashi Channel, the northernmost passage of the Luzon Strait, and through the Miyako Strait closer to Japan. The Miyako Strait flights were 1,500 kilometers from Guam, within range of the PLAAF’s CJ-20 air-launched land-attack cruise missile (LACM). Also in 2015, the PLAAF began flying the H-6K medium-range bomber, the PLAAF’s first aircraft capable of conducting strikes on the U.S. island of Guam (with air-launched LACMs like the CJ-20), past the first island chain into the western Pacific.

China is also developing new capabilities that enhance Beijing’s ability to project power. In September 2016, then-PLAAF Commander Gen. Ma Xiaotian confirmed for the first time that the LAAF was developing a new long-range bomber that would undoubtedly exceed the range and capabilities of the H-6K. Although the H-6K began flying with LACMs, this Chinese-built airframe is the
10th design variant of the Soviet Tu-16, which began flying in 1952. In 2016, China and Ukraine agreed to restart production of the world’s largest transport aircraft, the An-225, which is capable of carrying a world-record payload of nearly 254 tons. China expected the first An-225 to be delivered and operational by 2019, which didn’t actually happen. If used by the military, such a capability would facilitate the PLA’s global reach. The last An-225 was destroyed at the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine started on February 24, 2022.
In addition to land-based aircraft, China is currently increasing its fleet of domestically designed and produced aircraft carriers. Beijing is assumed to use the carrier to project power throughout the South China Sea and possibly into the Indian Ocean.

Taiwan will be reunited with mainland China, by force if necessary, said Xi Jinping
Power Projection and Expeditionary Operations Beijing’s longstanding interest to eventually compel Taiwan’s reunification with the mainland and deter any attempt by Taiwan to declare independence has served as the primary driver for China’s military modernization.
Large-scale amphibious invasion is one of the most complicated and difficult military operations to plan and implement, requiring air and maritime superiority, the rapid buildup and sustainment of supplies onshore, and uninterrupted support. An attempt to invade Taiwan would likely strain China’s armed forces and trigger international intervention. These stresses, combined with PLA’s combat force attrition and the complexity of urban warfare and counterinsurgency, even assuming a successful landing and breakout, make an amphibious invasion of Taiwan a significant political and military risk for Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party.
The PLA is capable of attempting various amphibious operations short of a full-scale invasion of Taiwan. With few overt military preparations beyond routine training, the PRC could launch an invasion of small Taiwan-occupied islands in the South China Sea such as Pratas or Itu Aba. A PLA invasion of a medium-sized, better-defended island such as Matsu or Jinmen is within the PLA’s capabilities. Such an invasion would demonstrate military capability, political resolve, and achieve tangible territorial gain while simultaneously showing some measure of restraint. However, this kind of operation involves significant, and possibly prohibitive, political risk because it could galvanize pro-independence sentiment on Taiwan and generate powerful international opposition. The unprecedented multidomain exercice started by the Chinese forces around and partly above Taiwan’s territory on August 3 will give the answer.
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PLA launches military drills around the island of Taiwan (Graphic: Xu Zihe/GT)
PLA’s Marine amphibious vehicles involved

A video going viral on social media shows tanks on the beaches of Xiamen city, which lies just across the strait from Taiwan. The video posted on Reddit shows beachgoers surrounded by a row of tanks that are moving ahead. A resident of Xiamen told South China Morning Post (SCMP) that he had seen a few dozen military vehicles of various types roll into the city and head towards its main ring road since Sunday, August 31. Chen Jinhuo, the owner of a restaurant, added that "about a hundred" armored vehicles are parked on the main ring road, NDTV reports.The Type 05 amphibious armored vehicle is a family of amphibious tracked armored fighting vehicles developed in the early 2000s by Norinco, led by chief designer Chen Pengfei, for the People's Liberation Army Navy Marine Corps. Two variants of the vehicle family was developed first, the infantry fighting variant ZBD-05, and assault gun/light tank variant ZTD-05. ZBD-05 vehicles were showcased in military parades of 2009 and 2015.
The Type 05 amphibious infantry fighting vehicle uses a planing hull propelled by two water jets, which is a considerable improvement over a similar type of vehicle like the AAV7A1 amphibious assault vehicle (AAV).
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ZTD-05 attached to a brigade under the 73th Group Army leaving a landing ship, May 26, 2021 (Picture source: eng.chinamil.com.cn - Lin Jiayu)
The ZTD-05 assault vehicle variant replaces the obsolete Type 63A amphibious tank introduced in the late 1990s. Research and development effort is reflected on the capable design. The vehicle implicates China is determined to secure advanced amphibious assault capabilities

Mobility
The Type 05 features a flat hull, extendable bow, with six retractable road wheels on each side and front/rear rollers. The vehicle's design results in significantly reduced drag. The angle of the bow changes adaptively according to the current displacement speedometer so that fluid resistance can always be kept at the lowest, optimal level.
The ZBD-05 is fully amphibious and propelled by two large water jets mounted to the rear side of the hull. In the water, the engine is able to generate 1,475 horsepower as well as switch to land mode with only 550 horsepower. The vehicle can run at a maximum road speed of 65 km/h and 30 km/h in the water. It has a maximum cruising range of 500 km and can negotiate a gradient of 60 % and a side slope of 30%. It can cross a vertical obstacle of 0.7 m and a trench of 2m.

Armament
ZTD-05 assaults vehicle armed with 105mm rifled gun seen at Joint Sea-2016 military exercises
The Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV) variant, ZBD-05, is built to support infantry and amphibious operations. The 3-man crew consists of the driver positioned front-left of the turret, with the commander and gunner occupying the turret. The vehicle features Za PT-99 30mm cannon turret with an HJ-73C ATGM rail launcher, capable of penetrating more than 800mm RHA after ERA. The vehicle can carry 7 to 8 (one squad) armed infantry in its passenger compartment at the rear.
The Assault Vehicle (light tank) variant, ZTD-05, is armed with a fully stabilized ZPL-98A 105mm rifled gun.[8] The ZTD-05 assault vehicle variant has a crew of four, including a loader.[9] The type of APFSDS round fitted on ZTD-05 is the DTC02-105 armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot based on BTA-2 105mm APFSDS, capable of penetrating 600mm RHA at 2,000 meters. The rifled gun is also capable of launching laser-guided beam-riding missiles. The gun is loaded manually with a fire rate of 6 to 8 rounds per minute with 36 rounds of ammo reserve. ZTD-05's turret shares a similar layout to the ZTL-11 assault vehicle. Secondary weapons for both variants include a Type 86 7.62mm coaxially mounted machine gun. ZTD-15 features a QJC-88 12.7mm anti-aircraft machine gun mounted on the roof of the turret near the loader.

Fire control
Accuracy and precision are attained by a computerized fire-control system (FCS) on both ZBD-05 and ZTD-05. The fire control system includes a fire-control ballistic computer, laser rangefinder, two-plane stabilization, and daylight/infrared gunner sight with a passive night vision channel. Commander has access to day/night independent thermal sight with hunter-killer (commander override) capability.
Type 05 is fitted with a battle management system, command and control system, and digital map interface. All the necessary information is displayed on screens to the driver, commander, and gunner. ZTD-05 is equipped with a laser designator for beam-riding SACLOS applications, and the loader position is also fitted with an independent periscope.

Protection
The vehicle has satellite navigation, fire suppression system, NBC protection system, day/night thermal vision, ensuring a high degree of survivability for the crew. The hull is constructed with aluminum alloy chassis with additional steel glacis plates. Aluminum alloy reduces weight and provides protection against small arms rounds and shell splatter, while the steel plates can stop 12.7mm rounds. The turret is constructed of all-welded steel armor with composite plates, which gives all-around protection against 12.7mm rounds and shell splinters. The front face of the turret is claimed to stop 25mm AP round at 1,000 meters (3,300 ft). The upper part of the suspension is protected by armor plates.
Both ZBD-05 and ZTD-05 are fitted with laser warning receivers, which are connected to 2 sets of 4-barrel smoke grenade launchers. The storage area around the aft section double as slat armor.
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ZBD-05 of PLA 73rd Group Army embarking in landing ship, 9-8-2021 (Picture source: eng.chinamil.com.cn - Xu Mingzhang)
Variants

* Type 05 (ZTD-05 or ZLT-05) Amphibious Assault Vehicle
The assault gun variant is armed with a ZPL98A 105mm low-recoil rifled gun, a 7.62mm coaxial machine gun, and a QJC-88 12.7mm anti-aircraft machine gun. An improved variant, designated ZLT-05A, with an upgraded computer system and digital terminals accessible for the driver, gunner, and commander.
* Type 05 (ZBD-05) Amphibious Infantry Fighting Vehicle
The infantry fighting vehicle variant is armed with a ZPT-99 30mm autocannon, a 7.62mm coaxial machine gun, and * HJ-73C anti-tank missiles.
* Type 05 (ZSD-05) Amphibious Armored Personal Carrier
The armored personal carrier variant is armed with a plate-protected 12.7mm heavy machine gun turret.
* Type 05 Amphibious Armored Reconnaissance Vehicle
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China halts military drills around Taiwan but ‘war preparation’ continues

Beijing repeats resolve to annex Taiwan by force if peaceful means prove unsuccessful



Helen Davidson in Taipei
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Wed 10 Aug 2022 05.50 EDT
Last modified on Wed 10 Aug 2022 14.48 EDT



Beijing has announced an end to its military drills surrounding Taiwan but said further “training and war preparation” would continue.
It made the announcement shortly after reaffirming its commitment, in a major policy paper, to use force against Taiwan if it could not take control “by peaceful means”.

A spokesperson for the PLA Eastern Theater Command said on Wednesday afternoon the exercises had been successfully completed, and “effectively tested the integrated joint combat capabilities of the troops”, according to state media.
The statement pledged to continue monitoring the Taiwan strait, regularly patrol the area and remain ready for combat.
After the US House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, visited Taiwan last week, Beijing’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) launched live-fire military exercises in seven large zones closely surrounding Taiwan’s main island.
Taiwan’s foreign minister, Joseph Wu, accused China on Tuesday of using the military drills to prepare for invasion. On Wednesday, Pelosi defended her visit, saying it was “absolutely” worth it.
“We cannot allow the Chinese government to isolate Taiwan,” Pelosi said in an interview with NBC. “They’re not going to say who can go to Taiwan.”
The Chinese Communist party government (CCP) claims Taiwan as a breakaway province of China. In a white paper released through state media on Wednesday morning, it reiterated its resolve to annex Taiwan by force if peaceful means were unsuccessful.
“We will work with the greatest sincerity and exert our utmost efforts to achieve peaceful reunification,” the official English-language version of the document said. “But we will not renounce the use of force, and we reserve the option of taking all necessary measures.”

Titled The Taiwan Question and China’s Reunification in the New Era, the official document did not give a timeline but did say: “We should not allow this problem to be passed down from one generation to the next.”
It said the use of force would be a “last resort taken under compelling circumstances”, and did not target “fellow Chinese in Taiwan”.
“This is to guard against external interference and all separatist activities,” the document said. It also claimed unification was the only way to avoid Taiwan being invaded by another country.
It was the third paper on Taiwan released by the state council, after one in 1993 and another in 2000. According to Reuters, it removed a promise stated in the previous two papers “to not send troops or administrative personnel to be based in Taiwan” after “unification”.
Wednesday’s paper reiterated Beijing’s intention of initially ruling Taiwan under the “one country, two systems” framework, and proffered Hong Kong as an example of the policy’s “resounding success” after “appropriate improvements” were made in the crackdown after the 2019 protest movement.

The recent crackdown on Hong Kong and imposition of Beijing’s national security law has been a major driver in the Taiwan population’s overwhelming rejection of the prospect of CCP rule. Hong Kong’s treatment featured heavily in the presidential campaign of Tsai Ing-wen, who was elected in a landslide.
Wednesday’s white paper also included erroneous interpretations of foreign governments’ “One China” policies, and blamed Taiwan’s ruling Democratic Progressive party and the US for fomenting “separatist” forces. It said unification was the only way to stop Taiwan from being invaded by another country.
“Separatism will plunge Taiwan into the abyss and bring nothing but disaster to the island,” it said.
Dr Lin Ying-yu, of Tamkang University’s Graduate Institute of International Affairs and Strategic Studies, said the document was likely to have been timed to coincide with the military drills. “After the sabre-rattling, they verbally intimidate,” Lin said. “They hope to make Taiwanese people respond in different ways and [to divide] opinions.”
Dr Mark Harrison, a senior lecturer in Chinese studies at the University of Tasmania, said the paper demanded Taiwanese people abandon the decades-long aspirations for democracy and sovereignty they have strived for since Japanese colonisation in the early 20th century, before the People’s Republic of China existed.
“The concluding references to Beijing’s willingness to use ‘all necessary measures’ and its identification of ‘separatist elements or external forces’ is a disquieting sign of the arguments it is preparing to justify military action against Taiwan,” said Harrison.

China’s ambassador to Australia, Xiao Qian, appeared to be the first Chinese official to be questioned by media on the white paper, at a national press club event on Wednesday afternoon. Xiao would not be drawn on what constituted a “compelling circumstance” justifying the use of force, and said people should “use your imagination” for the definition of “all necessary means”.
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Xiao was also asked about comments by his fellow ambassador in France, that Taiwan’s people would be “reeducated” after annexation. The comment sparked alarm, appearing to align with Beijing’s efforts to “re-educate” Uyghurs in Xinjiang.
Xiao said he was not aware of any official policy regarding reeducation in Taiwan but his personal understanding was that “once Taiwan is reunited … there might be a process for the people in Taiwan to have a correct understanding of China, about the motherland”.
Additional reporting by Chi Hui Lin
 

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Pelosi: US cannot allow China’s ‘new normal’ over Taiwan


US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Wednesday the United States could not allow China to normalize the new level of pressure on Taiwan it asserted with days of military drills following her visit to the Chinese-claimed island.
“What we saw with China is that they were trying to establish sort of a new normal. And we just can’t let that happen,” Pelosi told a news conference with four other Democratic House members who accompanied her on the trip to Asia.
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China said on Wednesday it had “completed various tasks” around Taiwan, but will continue regular patrols, potentially signaling an end to days of war games while keeping up pressure on the self-ruled island.
Furious at the visit to Taipei last week by Pelosi, a vocal critic of China for decades who stands second in line of succession for the US presidency, China had extended its largest-ever exercises around the self-ruled island it claims as its own beyond the four days originally scheduled.

“We went there to praise Taiwan. We went there to show our friendship, to say China cannot isolate Taiwan,” Pelosi said.
She laughed when asked about China’s announcement that it was sanctioning her and her immediate family. “Who cares?” Pelosi said. “That is incidental to me, of no relevance whatsoever.”
Representative Raja Krishnamoorthi said the delegation discussed a backlog of pending arms sales to Taiwan. He and Representative Gregory Meeks, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said lawmakers were taking steps to move such deals more quickly.
“We intend to fulfill all of our obligations to all of our partners and others who are counting on us for these vital supplies,” Krishnamoorthi said.
Meeks said his committee was working on legislation that would help expedite defense equipment agreements.
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Upping the ante: Key takeaways from China’s major drills around Taiwan
by Gabriel Dominguez
Aug 9, 2022

China’s largest-ever military exercises around Taiwan have not only raised regional tensions — they have also provided analysts with potential insight into how Chinese forces might operate around the self-ruled island in case of a conflict.
At the same time, the multiday maneuvers, launched in retaliation for U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taipei last week, have resulted in Sino-U.S. ties — widely seen as the defining bilateral relationship of the first half of the 21st century — dropping to a new low.

Here are some of the key political and military takeaways from Pelosi’s controversial trip and Beijing’s ensuing military escalation, both of which have led to what some are referring to as the “Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis.”

‘Talking past each other’
One of the most important political developments seen in recent days has been the breakdown in communications between Washington and Beijing.
“The US and China are seriously talking past each other. This is not just about Pelosi. The U.S. thinks this is about Chinese coercion. The Chinese think this is about a drift from ‘one China’ to ‘one China, one Taiwan.’ That disconnect will lead to a very unstable new baseline,” tweeted Evan Feigenbaum, vice president for studies at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
Just how fraught Sino-U.S. relations have become can be seen in the series of diplomatic “countermeasures” announced by Beijing targeting several areas of bilateral cooperation prioritized by Washington.
These include Beijing’s cancellation or suspension of talks and cooperation agreements in eight different fields, including climate change, legal assistance in criminal matters, and defense consultations, the last of which are critical, considering the increased risk of a military miscalculation.

A Taiwanese warplane lands at a base in Hualien, Taiwan, on Sunday. | LAM YIK FEI / THE NEW YORK TIMES
Both Washington and Beijing see the latest developments not as a single event but as part of broader trends in the perceived policies of the other, with each side stressing the importance of maintaining the status quo in relation to Taiwan while accusing each other of aiming to change the status quo.
Recent research conducted by the U.S. Institute of Peace (USIP) suggests China perceives that the administration of U.S. President Joe Biden has undertaken a significant shift in its Taiwan policy, resulting in a concerted effort to qualitatively upgrade U.S. relations with the democratic island.
“This perception is the polar opposite of the message that the Biden administration intended to signal to Beijing, namely that U.S. policy on Taiwan has remained unchanged and is completely consistent with the approach of prior administrations,” said Andrew Scobell, a distinguished fellow with USIP’s China program.
The main issue, he said, is that clear signaling and unambiguous messaging have become exceedingly difficult in the current toxic climate of Sino-U.S. relations, which is “rife with mutual suspicion and deep distrust.”

‘Likely only the beginning’
Beijing’s reaction to the Pelosi trip has underscored the political and economic costs China is prepared to impose on Taipei.
According to the China Power Team at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), part of this involves making clear that Taiwan will “bear the brunt of Chinese punishment for closer relations with the United States. Beijing hopes that this will drive a wedge between Taipei and Washington.”
Moreover, the military maneuvers can be interpreted as a message to both the U.S. and its regional allies that Beijing is both capable and determined to exert control over Taiwan and enforce its view of the “One China” principle, which states that it has sovereignty over the island.
For instance, the exercises also involved direct costs for Japan, and to some extent the Philippines, because of operations by the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) within waters claimed by these countries, including the launch of five ballistic missiles into Japan’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ).

Tourists visit a scenic area on Pingtan Island, one of mainland China’s closest points to Taiwan, in Fujian province on Saturday. One of China’s exercises was positioned off the island at the narrowest part of the Taiwan Strait. | AFP-JIJI
At the same time, Beijing has shown it is willing to further escalate tensions to deter other countries from getting involved, CSIS experts noted in a recently released report. They also wrote that the PLA exercises led to a rerouting of commercial air and maritime traffic around Taiwan, which Beijing uses to demonstrate “China’s ability to ‘control’ activities near and around Taiwan.”
There are also concerns that the recent exercises, including their intensity and scale, might become the new norm in China’s dealings with Taiwan.
“Beijing aims to use the exercises to establish a new status quo in the Taiwan Strait. China is specifically seeking to erase the notion of the median line that divides the strait and aims to constrain PLA operations west of the line,” wrote the CSIS experts.

“China also seeks to establish a new normal in which the PLA no longer respects Taiwan’s claims to a separate airspace and territorial waters,” the authors said, adding that these exercises are “likely only the beginning of PLA operations close to and above Taiwan.”
This view is shared by retired Australian Maj. Gen. Mick Ryan, who noted that this puts Taiwan, the U.S. and other nations in a quandary.
“To push back on this ‘new normal’ established by the PLA will probably require a higher operational tempo from Taiwanese, Japanese and American forces,” he said. “This is a very dangerous situation because it increases the chances of miscalculations. And historically, many wars have started not because of the calculations of the belligerents but because of miscalculations.”

Fears of a Ukraine scenario
A key element of repeating such drills is that they would allow the PLA to rehearse a variety of military operations that could form part of a blockade or invasion of the island. This, the CSIS experts noted, includes not only activities directed at Taiwan, but operations to prevent a potential third country intervention in a China-Taiwan conflict.
At the same time, the maneuvers highlighted the increased confidence the PLA has developed in its capabilities to conduct simultaneous operations around Taiwan and its readiness to quickly encircle the island from multiple directions. This is important, as it is still unclear whether the U.S. and its allies would be able to resupply Taiwan in the event of a conflict, which would be much more difficult than NATO’s current ability to do so for Ukraine.
Although islands typically offer the defender an advantage by forcing the attacker to undertake an amphibious landing, they can have downsides as well. Unlike Ukraine, which can be directly provided with weapons and other supplies from neighboring European countries, Taiwan lacks a land border with a friendly country, making a similar arrangement for military support more difficult.

Moreover, at a bit over 36,000 square kilometers, Taiwan is a fraction of the size of Ukraine’s over 600,000 square kilometers, rendering strategies such as trading space for time less viable.
Taiwan is also further removed from many of its allies, meaning that support — including aid for potential refugees — would require more time to arrive and would probably have to go through heavily contested airspace and sea lanes.


Against this backdrop, Ryan noted that if Chinese aggression continues to increase, Taipei may fear a Ukraine scenario where friendly nations would provide moral and possibly material support but no “boots on the ground and at sea,” and where Western publics would lose patience assisting Taiwan in any future blockade or invasion scenario. Things would worsen for Taiwan if the Chinese succeeded in rapidly asserting its superiority in any takeover, he said.
At the same time, imposing a blockade or invading the island would not be easy for China. Although Taiwan has a smaller military, the Chinese would still need to deploy their forces hundreds of kilometers from home ports and airfields, and then sustain these operations over time, Ryan said, even before any landing operation is undertaken.
“It is not clear whether the PLA has the capacity to ensure it can transport the hundreds of thousands of troops needed for any invasion scenario,” he said. “The Taiwan Strait is up to 200 km wide. This is a very significant obstacle for the Chinese, and they would probably take very high casualties in any transit of the strait.”

A glimpse into PLA plans?
Six exercise zones were chosen for the Chinese drills, and analysts say these locations could serve as indications for future PLA operations around the island and possibly even Beijing’s blockade and invasion plans.
Three of these zones intruded into Taiwan’s territorial waters and were alarmingly close to Taiwan’s capital and key cities, while the others were far from the Chinese mainland and beyond the Taiwan Strait, venturing into EEZs also claimed by Japan and the Philippines.
The CSIS experts noted in their report that one of the areas (Zone 1) was positioned off the coast of mainland China’s Pingtan Island at the narrowest part of the Taiwan Strait.


“PLA analysts have noted that operations by this narrow neck could enable China to close off the northern entrance to the Taiwan Strait. This zone was also chosen to intentionally breach and undermine the legitimacy of the ‘median line’ running through the Taiwan Strait, where PLA forces typically operate to the west of the line,” they wrote.
Zones 2 and 3 located to the north and northeast were not only near important ports and coastal areas that military planners believe are suitable for a potential PLA amphibious landing, but also a short distance away from the Japanese-administered Senkaku Islands, which China also claims and calls the Diaoyu. From there, the experts said, the PLA would be in a good position to conduct operations against both Taiwan and Japan.

“Control of both zones could make it difficult for the United States or Japan to deploy forces into Taipei from the northeast side and could enable the PLA to blockade Keelung Harbor,” they wrote.
“Moreover, operating from Zones 1, 2, and 3 could allow the PLA to move quickly to seize Taipei from three different directions and may be particularly important if the PLA seeks to engage in a decapitation attack against Taiwan’s leadership,” the authors wrote.
Zone 4, meanwhile, faced two important air force bases and overlapped with Japan’s EEZ around Yonaguni Island. Zone 5, located southeast of the southern tip of Taiwan, intruded into the Philippines’ EEZ and would be a critical choke point separating waters within the so-called First Island Chain — which extends from the Kuril Islands to Borneo — from the Philippines Sea and the broader Pacific Ocean, CSIS noted.
Zone 6 was near the cities of Kaohsiung and Zuoying, which are home to important commercial ports and key military bases, as well as beaches and coastal areas suitable for an amphibious invasion.

PLA progress
The exercises, which were monitored by U.S. aircraft and warships operating nearby, also gave an insight into the type of equipment China would use in a Taiwan contingency, including large numbers of aircraft, warships, submarines, as well as ship- and ground-launched missiles.
Moreover, the PLA focused on testing troops’ land attack and sea assault capabilities with joint air and naval operations in the sea and airspace to the north, east and southwest of Taiwan. As CSIS noted, these missions rehearsed clearing paths for amphibious landing forces to launch beach assaults against Taiwan.

Finally, the exercises showed just how much the PLA has advanced not only technologically but also in terms of combat readiness and doctrine, compared with the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis from 1995 to 1996.
Meia Nouwens, a China defense policy and military modernization expert at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, noted that the PLA has changed considerably in recent years, particularly since it started implementing reforms in 2015.
“The PLA has procured more advanced air, naval and missile capabilities supported by a more efficient and competitive Chinese defense industrial base,” she said.
“Doctrine is focused on fighting in the air, maritime, electromagnetic and space domains. And the PLA has been directed to fight integrated joint operations — across all services and theater commands.”


Ryan has a similar view, arguing that these advanced capabilities have changed the calculus for both Taiwan and other defense planners that might come to the aid of the island.
On the other hand, the integration of more sophisticated Western sensor networks since 1996 means that Western military organizations can better detect Chinese movements pointing toward increased Chinese aggression, including a blockade or invasion.

Given the heightened tensions around Taiwan, Ryan argues that the U.S. and others may seek to establish clearer procedures for encounters in the air or at sea.
“There have been some dangerous events precipitated by unprofessional and unnecessarily aggressive PLA actions. All sides should be seeking to avoid inadvertent clashes between U.S. and Chinese forces that might result in miscalculations and further escalations,” he said.
 
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