Change you can be drafted by government for

Loon

Inactive
November 09, 2008
Change you can be drafted by government for
Ethel C. Fenig
Apparently many Americans visited the widely trumpeted change.gov site, the Obama campaign money shaking site and blueprint for Obama's regime.

What they saw in the America Serves section disturbed them;


The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation's challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.

Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.

(italics added)


Sensitive to publicly announcing his real plans for a forced peacetime draft for domestic purposes, Obama and friends have changed the site's wording. Required has been changed.


Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free.


So students will be called on by Obama to volunteer by dangling a carrot of a "refundable tax credit" so part of "their college education is completely free." Sounds great, something free for a bit of community service.

Not believable.

No mention of increased taxes to fund these free refundable tax credits. Whoops! Obama is so busy basking in the presidential afterglow that he forgot to change a forced requirement. As Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs noted:


They're going through the site and cleaning up the places where it said "require community service," but they missed a spot on this page: Service | Change.gov.

Require 100 Hours of Service in College: Obama and Biden will establish a new American Opportunity Tax Credit that is worth $4,000 a year in exchange for 100 hours of public service a year.


Believe it, this too will be changed.

Change is on the way. What about our freedoms? What can we believe about this type of change?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/change_you_can_be_drafted_by_g.html
 

Tundra Gypsy

Veteran Member
The first thought that came to me was "servitude." From my dictionary:
1. condition of a slave; slavery; serfdom, bondage. 2. service required as a punishment subject to a certain use or enjoyment by another person or for the benefit of another thing. That was only the first part..
 

Desperado

Membership Revoked
AMENDMENT XIII

Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


I don't think it can be made any clearer!!!!
 

Lone Eagle Woman

Veteran Member
Also am another who will NOT be a part of this mess. Plan on going to the
wilds and disappear.

This is also against the 13th Admendment which outlaws Slavery and
"Involuntary Servitude". Check it Out. So I betcha that once he gets this
thru Congrees, if He Does, watch it be tied up in the Courts because of
this for a good long while IMO. You beat me to it Deperado!
 

kozanne

Inactive
AMENDMENT XIII

Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


I don't think it can be made any clearer!!!!

I agree, quite clear. But tell me something, will it matter to those who are bent on implementing this agenda?
 

Desperado

Membership Revoked
I agree, quite clear. But tell me something, will it matter to those who are bent on implementing this agenda?

Quite Frankly, unfortunately no... it didn't stop the draft did it.
It does prove though both ideas are unconstitutional.
 

RobinYyes

Deceased
AMENDMENT XIII

Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


I don't think it can be made any clearer!!!!

Thank you Desperado for putting that up. I think that wacky will try a work around, but using the 13th amendment as a defense will at least delay for a bit of time.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Quite Frankly, unfortunately no... it didn't stop the draft did it.
It does prove though both ideas are unconstitutional.

You forget one fact on the draft. DON'T STEP FORWARD. That step consitutes you "Volunteered" and were not forced into service.

He will implement some of his ideas and they will get slapped down in court, hard.
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
Could this be written in such a way that Social Security, Medical Care, Welfare, etc. payments will hinge upon such voluntary participation?
 

timbo

Deceased
Okay, let's imagine that the dippy Congress and the dippy Pres. get this all written up nicely.

Who is going to keep track of all this 'volunteer' stuff?

A whole new bureaucracy that's what. Even a bigger govt.

You think that the Homely Land Security Big Brother With His Nose In Everything is bad? (I do)

This could be a huge or even a huger drain on taxpayers to pay for all the monitoring that will have to happen.
 

Grantbo

Membership Revoked
AMENDMENT XIII

Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


I don't think it can be made any clearer!!!!


This just goes to show how incompetent obamma is. This goes way beyond idiotic.
 
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