Veg Building a wooden trellis for a vegetable garden to maximize growing space.

China Connection

TB Fanatic
Building a wooden trellis for a vegetable garden to maximize growing space.

Video:


https://www.marthastewart.com/916719/building-trellis-vegetable-gardening


/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////



The Vegetable Plants for a Trellis
Vegetables like beans, cucumbers, melons, peas, squash and tomatoes grow well on trellises.



Planting vegetables vertically using a trellis offers advantages to gardeners beyond saving space. Managing pests and harvesting are easier because vegetable plants are more accessible. Fewer vegetables are wasted because ripe fruit are not hidden behind lush foliage, and trellised vegetables can be used to hide less attractive garden spots. Varieties of common garden vegetables are well-suited to trellis planting.

Beans and Peas


Peas and pole varieties of beans are natural climbers, making them excellent choices for use with a trellis. Tendrils from their plants easily twine around trellis supports, which can be fashioned from lightweight netting, wire or compostable cord made of untreated cotton, hemp or sisal. When selecting pea plants for trellising, look for varieties that produce longer vines, such as edible-pod or snow peas, rather than shelling or English peas. Any pole, or runner, bean plant will grow well on a trellis; scarlet runner beans are one recommended variety because of their attractive red flowers. An added bonus is that trellised pole beans produce longer than bush varieties.

Cucumbers

The cucumber is another traditional vine vegetable that grows well on a trellis. In fact, cucumbers grown on a trellis can have cleaner, straighter fruit than plants left to grow on the ground. Because of their small size, cucumbers do not require additional support beyond the trellis itself. However, the trellis must be sufficiently strong to bear the weight of the vines as well as the fruit. Gardeners should look for trellises with wire or mesh support reinforced with wooden or iron stakes.

Squash and Melons


Squash and melon plants, which typically require a lot of garden space, can be grown vertically using a trellis, provided that small fruit-producing varieties -- with fruit in the 4- to 6-pound range -- are used. For example, small squash varieties like acorn or delicata need no additional support besides the trellis. For varieties that produce larger, heavier squash or melons, individual slings or hammock-like supports are required to keep fruit from breaking off the vine. These additional supports can be made from cotton or nylon cloth, diapers or pantyhose. Trellised squash and melon plants have fewer problems with mildew and other disease because sun exposure and air circulation are improved.

Tomatoes

Tomato plants are not natural climbers; however, indeterminate varieties will continue to grow and sprawl throughout the growing season, which makes these tomatoes good choices for trellising. Vertical support must be strong, sturdy and well-staked because fruit-laden tomato plants are heavy. In addition, wire or twine may be needed to tie stems and branches to the trellis frame. Like squash and melons, tomato plants benefit from vertical growing, as fruits are less likely to rot on the ground. Trellised tomato plants also have fewer problems with slugs, insect pests and disease.


https://homeguides.sfgate.com/vegetable-plants-trellis-51001.html
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
A few examples to make depending on the crop to be grown. It doesn't take much space etc to grow peas or beans depending on the season.




IMG_5234_sm2_lg.jpg



hops-trellis-garden-ideas-pinterest-awesome-collection-of-how-to-build-a-trellis-for-hops-of-how-to-build-a-trellis-for-hops.jpg



vertical_gardening-pole_beans-300dpi_t1170.jpg




cf38d17ee8bea3153caa0cf69952f27d.jpg




vegetable-trellises-vegetable-trellises-vegetable-garden-trellis-netting.jpg
 

Martinhouse

Deceased
Arched stock panels really are wonderful for growing cucumbers, melons or squash. And growing sweet potatoes on a welded wire fence saves an enormous amount of garden space. I've grown pole beans on a high wooden frame of welded wire fencing...Rattlesnake beans will grow 12 feet or more so a flat "roof" continued from the trellis portion of the framework allows for even more beans. And underneath is a nice semi-shaded arbor for a few things you don't want to bolt too soon.
 

Dinghy

Veteran Member
My son in law made me one like the one in the fourth picture. I used it this year for cucumbers, and it worked really well.
 

Martinhouse

Deceased
Bear in mind that grasshoppers like to chew on nylon cords and rope as much as they do nylon window screening. Netting will work for a while, but eventually succumb to sun deterioration or insect damage. Metal will last a lot longer.

Also, I've found that baling twine lasts a really long time outdoors, since that's where it's made to be used. And it's far cheaper than rope or cord.

P.S. Those morning glories sure are pretty. I'm kind of partial to them and I have some here that have re-seeded every year since I moved here forty-one years ago. They are the original dark blue left from a "Bicentennial Mix" packet of red, white, and blue that I bought in 1976 and planted in 1977. The red and white never made it past the first year but the blue apparently is here to stay.
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
Interesting, I don't get too many grasshoppers where I am living but you do in other areas. The baling twine is another type of plastic.
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
Cubic Foot Gardening: Increase Yields by Growing Vertically


About 15 minutes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCZYAGv-bv0



OYR Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening
Published on Jul 17, 2016
When I think of the space we have available to grow food, I like to think not only in terms of square feet but also in terms of cubic feet. By maximizing our use of vertical space, we dramatically increase the productivity of our small garden. In this video, I share some examples of what we’re growing vertically in our cubic foot garden.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
We use PVC pipe and chicken wire. Wood rots too fast here in the south.

Same effect. We were able to harvest 1200+ peppers so far this year with 40 sq ft of garden.
 

Martinhouse

Deceased
20Gauge, when I grew things on chicken wire, a lot of the cukes, tomatoes, whatever, would grow in the little openings and be deformed and hard to harvest without tearing them. Even the pole beans might grow twisted around the wires. Any trellising I use now is 2 x 4 welded wire fencing or 52" x 16' cattle panels.

Chicken wire is lots harder to clean the old vines off of, too.

Gotta admit, though, chicken wire sure is lots cheaper!
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
20Gauge, when I grew things on chicken wire, I had a lot of the cukes, tomatoes, whatever, would grow in the little openings and be deformed. Even the pole beans might grow twisted around the wires. Any trellising I use now is 2 x 4 welded wire fencing or 52" x 16' cattle panels.

Chicken wire is lots harder to clean the old vines off of, too.

Gotta admit, though, chicken wire sure is lots cheaper!

We have a few, but with sq ft gardening, it worked out pretty well. As we don't have to weed, watering takes just a couple of minutes, (less than 5 on average). Our biggest issue is being timely in picking the harvest and the height things grew. We currently have pepper plants that are over 5ft tall. With an above ground planter, we are looking at 7 ft overall. Good problems to say the least.

The time to clear a few things out of the wire is far less than weeding or anything else we do. So it is worth it for us.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
20Gauge, when I grew things on chicken wire, a lot of the cukes, tomatoes, whatever, would grow in the little openings and be deformed and hard to harvest without tearing them. Even the pole beans might grow twisted around the wires. Any trellising I use now is 2 x 4 welded wire fencing or 52" x 16' cattle panels.

Chicken wire is lots harder to clean the old vines off of, too.

Gotta admit, though, chicken wire sure is lots cheaper!

Also, the 2*4 is great, but the deer can get their noses through it and eat the plants. Yes, we have small deer here.
 

Martinhouse

Deceased
I had to laugh about your small deer! I'm in north central Arkansas and we have the little Ozark deer. I didn't know this when we moved here and the first time I saw a doe, I wondered why it didn't have any spots.

The whitetails have moved in now and just the other day my sister saw three enormous does walking up the side of her road. We are from Minnesota and the tiny deer were a real surprise to us. I can see how they'd be able to get to your plants.

I used to put a row of upside down pails along my rows of Rattlesnake beans and step from one to the next when picking. Saved my thigh muscles from the ache of many up and down steps. If I grow high things again I will use the neat oversized step-stool type ladder my daughter gave me for my birthday last year.

My big garden was completely enclosed, top included, with chicken wire, plus four-foot welded wire around the base for strength, The welded wire and cattle panel rows were within the garden, not along the outsides. My raspberries were on the outsides and the free-range chickens got to eat any berries that poked through the chicken wire since I didn't go out and pick on the outside of this garden.
 

hammerhead

Veteran Member
I'm enjoying the garden thread, as usual. Trellises and a square-foot approach for planning in my beds let me maximize my production.

Finished the last picking of baby lima beans at dinner last night. Snow on the ground and fresh lima beans. It's a long-season crop, and I got it in late, but it was an experiment. I will definitely be expanding the space allotted and growing for real next year.
 

Martinhouse

Deceased
Hammerhead, I'm enjoying this, too.

Don't you just love trying a couple of new things in the garden every year and learning so much each time?

I've learned that my kale and broccoli will actually grow all winter in my greenhouse but broccoli still suffers more when it gets super cold out there. And if we really do get colder winters, they will probably still be there for the picking if only for the picking, since I'm in Arkansas and I think my biggest problems during a minimum won't be cold or short seasons so much as they will be erratic weather fronts and lack of sunlight.

We've have cloudier than usual weather so far this fall. Have I already mentioned here or in the Grand Solar Minimum thread that it looks like broccoli is growing like gangbusters while the kale is slow and not quite as dark green as it should be? This is the type of thing I mean when I say I keep learning from doing new things.
 

hammerhead

Veteran Member
Yup, always learning ... or having the same lesson reinforced so that maybe I *do* learn it ... ;)

My peppers just killed this year, but the tomatoes were meh. The sunlight across my beds is changing due to a neighbor's tree to the south, and I think I need to go back to plastic mulch on the tomato bed to get soil temps up.

Powdery mildew continues to be an unpleasant reality. sigh. I guess I will skip another year of squash family stuff.

Fire blight has been ravaging the area. My pear trees are gone, and my remaining apple is looking rough.

My late crop is brussells sprouts. In previous years, I have dug down through snow to get dinner.

I planted goji berries last year, and they took off this year. Gonna have to do some space planning.

Hopi red amaranth reseeds like a maniac.

All good problems to have in my head as I spend winter hours looking at catalogs and thinking about the 2019 garden.
 

Martinhouse

Deceased
There are too many red cedars in my area to even bother with apple trees, but I got lots of pears from my three Orient pears until the honeybees disappeared. A neighbor has Kiefer pears and they must be blight-resistant, too, because he always gets some crop. Don't know if he has bees. Maybe the cursed squirrels that have moved in here are ruining my pears, not a lack of bees.

I've given up on fruit trees and am sticking to berries now. Strawberries and blueberry bushes doing well, finally, but I can't seem to keep raspberries alive like I used to.
 
Top