FASCISM Boston Cops Threaten, Harrass THE WRONG WOMAN Over Vax Card: ‘We Don’t Enforce Mandates, We Protect Rights’

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WATCH: Boston Cops Threaten, Harrass THE WRONG WOMAN Over Vax Card: ‘We Don’t Enforce Mandates, We Protect Rights’
By Alicia Powe
Published January 17, 2022 at 7:10am
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After the employee of a Boston pizzeria allowed five unvaccinated women and a girl to order food and bottles of water, the store manager intervened and called the police on the group for not presenting proof of Covid vaccination.
In footage recorded by the women and streamed on Facebook Live, the shop owner asks police to remove the group of females from his restaurant for failing to comply with Boston’s newly implemented mandate requiring proof of vaccination to enter all indoor venues.
But the women stood their ground, continued to drink bottles of water and eat the pizza they purchased while being harassed and gawked at by the cops and store manager in the nearly hour-long encounter.
One of the women, Shana Cottone, a Boston police Sergeant who was placed on leave and relieved of her badge on Jan. 8 over her criticism of the city’s mandate, shamed the officers for choosing money over human rights.
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The recently suspended sergeant and leader of Boston First Responders United, a group that organized in opposition to the vaccine mandate, implored her former colleagues “to do the right thing.”
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Cottone demanded the name and badge number of each officer, vowing to sue them each individually if they persisted to eject her, the young girl, and the other four women from the restaurant.
After speaking with the shop owner, Office Arigonas warns the women, “I am a police officer and I got called. I am here to talk to you.”
“About what?” Cottone fires back.
“The manager of the establishment says you guys won’t show your vaccination cards,” Arigonas said.
“That’s crap. We don’t show papers,” Cottone maintains.
“Okay, guess what? It’s a private establishment and that’s what they want. They want to see it. It’s mandated by the city and if you guys don’t want to show that, you guys can’t sit down. You can do take-out.”
The officers insist the women leave for failing to provide vaccination proof, but the women don’t budge and remain seated.
“No. You need to leave,” Cottone argues. “Listen. You better watch what you’re doing because you are walking a very thin line right now. The police are not to be enforcing this mandate. You can take yourself and you can leave.”
“I am not doing anything,” Arigonas replies.
“You are. You are violating our rights,” the former sergeant chided.
As Cottone stands up to walk to the restroom, the store owner and police officer proceed to follow her.
“Imagine on Martin Luther King Day, brother, discriminating against other black people,” a woman recording the exchange laments. “You turn your back on your own people. You’re a Nazi.”
As the officers continue to awkwardly surveil the women, they maintain they are doing their job.
“That’s the problem! So, we’re the Nazis!” one of the women snaps back. “You decide what part of history you want to be on.
They did the same shit to Rosa Parks, so, we’ll park our butts right on the bus,” another woman proclaims.
Cottone returns to the table, warning her former colleagues, “If you are not going to stand by your oath, you shouldn’t be on this job. I am enjoying this product that I purchased here, and you’re going to leave me in peace or I’m going to sue you each individually.
The sergeant reminds the officers that she was put on leave for protesting Covid tyranny while another officer, Gino, chose to resign rather than trample on civil rights:
Violating people’s rights is not how policing is done. We protect people’s rights. We don’t enforce mandates, we protect rights. Anthony, don’t walk away from me because you know you’re doing the wrong thing. You can stand up against it, okay? Gino Fernandez, my classmate, fourteen years, resigned yesterday. He gave his gun and his badge away. They took my gun and my badge a week and a half ago. Gino gave his back yesterday because he is not going to participate in a corrupt system. You guys can do that too, but you’re bribed by money. You’ve been corrupted by money.Money will never make you righteous.
This is wrong guys. You don’t have to do it.Take your hands out of your vest. That’s not tactically safe, okay?
“This is the second time today we have been denied service and had the police called on us because we won’t show our papers,” one of the women explained, adding, “Happy Martin Luther King Day.”


Days prior to the showdown with her former colleagues in the pizzeria, Cottone and a small group of demonstrators protested in front of Mayor Wu’s Roslindale home with bullhorns at 7 am.
“Who is the government to tell me I’m not entitled to die?” Cottone told the Boston Globe during the protest.
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Boston began implementing Mayor Michelle Wu’s citywide vaccine passport mandate on Jan. 15, requiring proof of vaccination for individuals ages 12 and up when entering indoor spaces.
The mandate requires presenting a Center For Disease Control card, a digital image of a CDC card, an image of an official immunization record of at least one dose of a Covid shot or any City of Boston app proving receipt of at least one dose of a Covid vaccine to enter indoor dining, gyms, bars, nightclubs and entertainment venues. On Feb. 15, the Democrat mayor is demanding everyone prove they have received 2 Covid vaccine doses to enter any indoor venue.
Celebrities, performing artists and professional athletes who are not regularly employed by a venue are exempt from the mandate.
Mayor Wu calls the fascistic policy “B Together.”

“The best way for Boston to stay healthy and support our communities, our businesses, and cultural institutions is for more people to get vaccinated. The B Together policy helps us do that,” the city’s website states.
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Luddite

Veteran Member
I didn't watch the video. A business owner should be able to deny or suspend service.

I'm a little weary of the "new social justice vax warriors"
Jmho

The cop would have aggravated me with the 'talk' language. Arrest me, cite me, but I ain't talkin' to you...

By the transcript, the police were accommodating. If I was the owner, I would have been frustrated with the popo.

Ftr, I'm currently an anti-vaxxer. Not looking to degrade our stance by being a pest to a business owner...

Eta: I watched 5 minutes and my opinion hasn't changed.
 
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day late

money? whats that?
I didn't watch the video. A business owner should be able to deny or suspend service.

I'm a little weary of the "new social justice vax warriors"
Jmho

The cop would have aggravated me with the 'talk' language. Arrest me, cite me, but I ain't talkin' to you...

By the transcript, the police were accommodating. If I was the owner, I would have been frustrated with the popo.

Ftr, I'm currently an anti-vaxxer. Not looking to degrade our stance by being a pest to a business owner...

Eta: I watched 5 minutes and my opinion hasn't changed.

FWIW, the woman is an ex-cop who refuses to show her papers one way or the other. That's how she became an ex-cop. The article never does say if she was vaxxed or not.
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
FWIW, the woman is an ex-cop who refuses to show her papers one way or the other. That's how she became an ex-cop. The article never does say if she was vaxxed or not.
That is a valid distinction. Thank you.
I guess my personal aversion to rude behavior affects my outlook. I fully acknowledge people have different ideas about resistance. That, in my opinion, didn't help our position.
 

day late

money? whats that?
I also have an aversion to rudeness. But it is safe to say that there was plenty of it to go around. The lady, the cops, the owner are all equally guilty imho.
 

ioujc

MARANTHA!! Even so, come LORD JESUS!!!
I just called the Boston Mayor's office (617-635-4500) and told them that my husband and I had co-authored 5 books about the New York Yankees (actually he is my ex husband>>>but if they can promulgate lies>>>so can I. However I DID write several sections of the The Ultimate New York Yankees Record Book!) and told them that we used to come for every game of the Boston Red Socks and that as a result of their new Nazi mandates we would no longer be visiting their city. Additionally, I told them that I intended to spread this information and the mayor's phone number far and wide among the Baseball culture and that I sincerely PRAYED that their tourist numbers would be ZIP this year!!
 
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bethshaya

God has a plan, Trust it!
First of all it was not a private establishment it was public. Don’t ever forget that.

It was a private business. The city did not make the pizza's, a private owner owns that pizzeria. While she is right about her rights, those rights to serve or not serve are also extend to the private pizzeria owner as well. If it were a bakery and the private owner was standing ground and refusing service to make a gay couple's wedding cake on religious objections, we'd all be on the side of the bakery. Goes both ways. Neither of them are right.
 

FNFAL1958

Senior Member
What she's doing Right or wrong doesn't matter' at least she's standing up to the Bull crap Mandates, if more people did then the PTB would get the message we've had enough of their crap.
If the Owner wants to bow down to the mandates then he needs to suffer the results if he goes out of business.
 

bethshaya

God has a plan, Trust it!
Anyone that thinks the cops will be on our side when the SHTF is delusional. There will be a few but not many.

There are two types of people who become law enforcement. People who genuinely want to help society, and those who seek power trips to feed ego. The ones who want to help society will leave when it comes to doing things that cross the line of "helping society" and go against what they stand for, much like the female former police officer in the OP. Leaving those who stroke their ego in search of power left as the police force.

At this present time, the police forces across the country are in the process of weeding. We're loosing the good cops, leaving the bad ones behind.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
I'm torn on this one. As a private business they have the right to do business or serve whom they want to and if customers don't abide by their rules they can take their business somewhere else. It is just like the baker or photographer that decided they couldn't do business with a homosexual couple and were sued over it.

But, in this case the initial employee served the women and took their money and they sat down to eat their food and it was only after the transaction the manager called the police. The women were in the right as they paid for the food and sat down to eat it in peace and the manager decided to be a nazi about it.

I have no problem with the women taking a stand over the mandates as it is their right to protest but it is also the right of a private business to decide who they want to do business with.

In this case if the manager was present and told them to leave before he took their money then he would of been in the right and the women in the wrong for deciding to push the issue. But once he took their money then it implies that they have the right to sit down and eat their food that they paid for.

With any kind of civil disobedience you have to count the cost. If you are willing to protest then you are also willing to endure the pushback.
 

Macgyver

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'm torn on this one. As a private business they have the right to do business or serve whom they want to and if customers don't abide by their rules they can take their business somewhere else. It is just like the baker or photographer that decided they couldn't do business with a homosexual couple and were sued over it.
The bakery argument is a little different.
That being said, can you put up a sing that says no blacks? Hispanics? Asians?
Answer is no.
Same applies here.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
The bakery argument is a little different.
That being said, can you put up a sing that says no blacks? Hispanics? Asians?
Answer is no.
Same applies here.


Apples and oranges. That deals with civil rights where it is against the law to discriminate against race, color, ect. This is more in the lines of a sign that says 'no shirt, no shoes, no service'.

But actually I'm fine with a landlord that only wants to rent to whites or a black owned store that doesn't want white customers, ect. Free enterprise and free association. If you discriminate as a private business then you drastically reduce your customer base and you are going to pay a price for doing so.

Regardless, once the restaurant took her money and served her the food then the manager can't turn around and demand them to leave because the petty tyrant of a mayor decided on her own to make a new law. The old saying that money talks and bullshite walks comes into play here. Get woke, go broke and all that. The best way to handle anything is let the free market do what it does best.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
Police exist to implement "Policy"
Often when I see "To Protect And Serve" on a cop car, I say to myself, "OK, just who are they protecting and serving?"

There are two sides to this coin as we all know. On one side there are cops that enforce the law as written and do protect the public. Flip the coin, and we have the Boston cops serving and protecting the regime, legal or not.

And it is also possible the cops heckling the women may agree with their position, but due to department politics best keep their mouths shut or lose their jobs and retirement. It's a crazy world.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I'm torn on this one. As a private business they have the right to do business or serve whom they want to and if customers don't abide by their rules they can take their business somewhere else. It is just like the baker or photographer that decided they couldn't do business with a homosexual couple and were sued over it.

But, in this case the initial employee served the women and took their money and they sat down to eat their food and it was only after the transaction the manager called the police. The women were in the right as they paid for the food and sat down to eat it in peace and the manager decided to be a nazi about it.

I have no problem with the women taking a stand over the mandates as it is their right to protest but it is also the right of a private business to decide who they want to do business with.

In this case if the manager was present and told them to leave before he took their money then he would of been in the right and the women in the wrong for deciding to push the issue. But once he took their money then it implies that they have the right to sit down and eat their food that they paid for.

With any kind of civil disobedience you have to count the cost. If you are willing to protest then you are also willing to endure the pushback.

My question is, as a former brick and mortar owner, was there any signage upon entering the building telling customers that they have to show the vaxx card in order to be seated. If not then the business owner is in the wrong on this one, period!

It harkens back to the days of signs being on the doors: no shirt, no shoes, no service, if you didn't have one on the doors then a customer could come in w/o wearing a shirt or shoes and there wasn't anything you could do about it, period.

In some parts of the midwest you will not only see that sign, but also no smoking, and no spitting in the store signs! I kid you not on that last one.

The whole vaxx passport mandates and the willingness of others to enforce it bothers me to no end. This won't end well.
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
My question is, as a former brick and mortar owner, was there any signage upon entering the building telling customers that they have to show the vaxx card in order to be seated. If not then the business owner is in the wrong on this one, period!

It harkens back to the days of signs being on the doors: no shirt, no shoes, no service, if you didn't have one on the doors then a customer could come in w/o wearing a shirt or shoes and there wasn't anything you could do about it, period.

In some parts of the midwest you will not only see that sign, but also no smoking, and no spitting in the store signs! I kid you not on that last one.

The whole vaxx passport mandates and the willingness of others to enforce it bothers me to no end. This won't end well.
Actually this is not something the business owner came up with. It is a city mandate. I don't know if it has the force of law or not, but I do know that if the owner does not enforce it he could potentially lose his business license.

So in that respect, it is difference from your example.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
Anyone that thinks the cops will be on our side when the SHTF is delusional. There will be a few but not many.

When the SHTF, if the police do not receive food, shelter, and safety, they will walk away. The no longer police will then be on our side.
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
It was a private business. The city did not make the pizza's, a private owner owns that pizzeria. While she is right about her rights, those rights to serve or not serve are also extend to the private pizzeria owner as well. If it were a bakery and the private owner was standing ground and refusing service to make a gay couple's wedding cake on religious objections, we'd all be on the side of the bakery. Goes both ways. Neither of them are right.
naw. the difference is the bakery asking to see your personal medical papers. Thats a HIPPA issue. They could have aids, hepC Tubucullosis, monkey pox, ebola, or anything else, but they only care to see your "covid passport" you know, the one you need to do ANY BUSINESS OR TRAVEL FROM HERE ON OUT.

No thank you.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Another case of "collusion of rights."

One side, the right of commerce where one can seek out a product, come to terms with the seller, buy the product, and use the product.

The other side. The right to maintain one's safety and freedom from infection.

The City of Boston has decided that the latter is more important than the first.

Of course the City of Boston (Possibly State of MA) gets sole discretion on setting terms of an "Emergency Order" - which the Vaccine Mandate follows. No Emergency, no ability to mandate physical condition.

Like the Theater yelling of Fire/Freedom of Speech right collusion, this needs a court to decide which human right is pre-eminent and should be defended by law. (The usual resolution in these matters frequently is a "compromise" - one that gives both parties the maximum freedom possible given the conflict.)

The cops WERE trying to do their job. Sort of. They don't decide law. Or perhaps in this case they did as nobody was arrested? Just hassled. This (their not arresting) a case of "color of law" Color (law) - Wikipedia

Color of law works both ways - to put law where there isn't any (more common) or to remove law where there is.

The police were attempting to reach that "compromise" but alas, not their job - and it was not reached.

Dobbin
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
this saddens me for my chosen profession. How far it has fallen:roll2::bs:

indeed . . . there are many of you that feel the same way brother, as do retired health care providers watching those we feel are ALSO on the other side of their oaths - the complicit medical mafia
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
naw. the difference is the bakery asking to see your personal medical papers. Thats a HIPPA issue. They could have aids, hepC Tubucullosis, monkey pox, ebola, or anything else, but they only care to see your "covid passport" you know, the one you need to do ANY BUSINESS OR TRAVEL FROM HERE ON OUT.

No thank you.

The covid passport also gives medical information. Having to show it to anyone is also a HIPAA violation.
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
The covid passport also gives medical information. Having to show it to anyone is also a HIPAA violation.

Actually, anyone requesting to see a vaccine card is NOT a HIPPA violation. Anyone is fully in their right to request to see your medical records, and it is up to you if you want to show it. And the business is fully in their right to deny you service if you don't provide the medical records they would like to show. Then the next step if for you to sue that business for denying you service and if it is against the law then you may get a win in court.

But none of the above is a HIPPA violation.

In my profession, I will see medical records. Now, if I release the protected information I see in those records to a person not designated for authorization to see them by you, then it would be HIPPA violation. I have to take yearly cert tests to "re-educate" myself in HIPPA and how any violations by myself will ensure that not only me, but my company will have a bad day.

HIPPA violations are not the catch all so many posters on this board think it is.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
They literally take an oath to the Constitution. Good Grief!
That's all fine and good and upright and all that glittery stuff.

If they lived that oath every minute of every day (because it is a calling more than a J.O.B. and I'm happy for the good cops we still have) and took a moment to faithfully filter their orders through that oath before following them, comments such as the above wouldn't be relevant. Every example of a slip (disobeying a "lawful order", my ass, or asset forfeiture for another) is a violation of said oath. Period.
 
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