RACE Black pastor files lawsuit after he was handcuffed for watering his neighbor's flowers

Macgyver

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just when you thought cops could not get any dumber, See for yourself.
Lots of pictures and video at source of the suspect NOT committing a crime.


Black pastor files lawsuit after he was handcuffed for watering his neighbor's flowers​




Black pastor is set to file a discrimination lawsuit against the police after he was handcuffed for watering his neighbor's flowers while they were out of town - despite a white woman stepping in and coming to his defense.
Pastor Michael Jennings was arrested in May outside his neighbor's yard in Childersburg, Alabama, after police received a complaint about a strange man and vehicle on the property.

Jennings, who was seen in the clip watering the flowers with a hose, had just returned from Sunday service. He told police his long-term neighbor asked him to look after his shrubbery while he was out of town.
But despite his good intentions and other residents vouching for him, Jennings was taken to jail and later charged with obstruction of government operation.

After insisting that he was just calmly gardening in the front yard, police asked Jennings: 'How do we know that's the truth?'
The baffled pastor, who lives in the house across the street, responded: 'I had the water hose in my hand! I was watering the flowers.'
Body camera footage showed three officers from Childersburg Police Department screaming at Jennings as he refused to provide identification - before he was ushered away in handcuffs.
Jennings later learned the person who called 911 knew him but didn't recognize him when she called in the report.
Police handcuff a black pastor for watering neighbor's flowers


One of the female residents, who also lived on the street, told the officers that the pastor and the homeowner were indeed friends
Laughing in disbelief during the encounter, the pastor tells the officers: 'Y'all racially profiled me.'
An unidentified officer then says: 'We're not racially profiling you,' before Jennings rebukes: 'Yes, you did.'
The officer continues: 'No sir, no sir. We're not about that okay?'
A white resident then intervened and told officers that Jennings lived next door - insisting that he was friends with the homeowner who had left earlier that day.

'He lives right there,' the woman told police while pointing at Jennings' property.
The pastor, from Vision of Abundant Life Ministries in Sylacauga, was arrested and placed in the backseat of the cop car, despite the woman vouching for him. His mobile phone was also taken from him during the arrest.
'Does he have permission to be watering flowers?' police asked the woman.

To which the neighbor responded: 'He may because they are friends, and they went out of town today and he may be watering their flowers. It would be completely normal.'
She later added: 'This is probably my fault.'



One local, who also lived on the street, came to aid the black pastor - but despite telling cops that they were friends, Jennings was still arrested and later charged
At one point during the ordeal, Jennings could be heard speaking about his long-term neighbor: 'He is going to be so p***** when I tell him I got arrested for watering his flowers.'
Police later received notice the 'suspicious' car belonged to another man. Jennings' wife and daughter later arrived to the scene to identify him, but he was later charged with obstruction of government operation.
The charges were dropped one month later - but now the pastor is set to file a discrimination lawsuit against the officers.
'Last I checked, watering roses ain’t no crime,' Jennings told WIAT.

Following the ordeal, Jennings said that the 'emotional toll' will take him some time to recover from.
Jennings' attorney, Harry Daniels told DailyMail.com that the pastor has struggled to move past the 'traumatic' incident.
'He's a pastor, he's a man of faith, but I would be remissive if I didn't tell you that what he's dealing with is very hard.
'A split moment he felt his life could have been taken from him if he showed any resistance, even though he was right in the video.'
The pastor feared leaving to get his ID from his house and thought if he were to take off, the cops might 'put a bullet' in his back, according to Daniels.

When police asked Jennings to prove his identity, he refused since he knew - having a background in law enforcement - that he was not obliged to because he was not committing a crime and was on private property.
Daniels said that the video clearly showed police denying Jennings his rights, and revealed the cops involved as Christopher Smith, J Gable, and Sgt. Jeremy Brooks.
Neighbors call police on black pastor for watering their flowers


Multiple neighbors stood around in shock as the local pastor was taken away in the cop car. Jennings was charged, but a month later it was dropped
'If you noticed in the video, when a neighbor, the white lady said he lived [around] there, they took her word as the gospel, and the pastor who is preaching the gospel, they did not take his word at all.'
The attorney added: 'A suit needs to be filled to prevent these things from happening - and put in front of law enforcement a notice that they cannot intimidate or harass, or abuse their powers.'

Daniels told WBRC: 'These cases put law enforcement on notice and the country on notice that these types of interactions - thank God that Pastor Jennings had a cool head.
'He didn't get aggressive or defensive in a sense, and he complied when the officers grabbed him.'
'It represents racial profiling and it represents law-enforcement officers intimidating a person who actually understands and knows their rights.'

After viewing the clip on social media, one person quipped: 'If anyone wants to maliciously water my plants then I would appreciate it!'
The lawsuit against the Childersburg Police Department hasn't been filed. The department did not respond to requests for comment by DailyMail.com.

Rick McClelland, Childersburg Police Chief, told WVTM an investigation would be conducted.
Meanwhile, Jennings' other attorney, Bethaney Embry Jones, said McClelland may think the situation will be resolved by dropping the charges.
'This was a crime, not a mistake,' Jones said. 'I would hope that the Childersburg Police Department would understand the difference.'
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
You have know when to stop digging a deeper hole for yourself. Once the cops were told by the neighbors that he lived across the street that should of been the end of it. Just say you were responding to a call and once you determined everything was on the up and up let it go instead of doubling down on stupid.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
But despite his good intentions and other residents vouching for him, Jennings was taken to jail and later charged with obstruction of government operation.

What government operation did he obstruct? Did they get called off their donut break? This is ridiculous.
 

Milkweed Host

Veteran Member
That's not even police work, I'm not sure what the police were thinking here??

One of the officers said that once an arrest has been made, he had to follow through
with the charges. I never heard the words of; you're under arrest. I only saw the handcuffs
being placed on the pastor. The idea of if handcuffs go on, implying an arrest has been made and someone
goes to jail is BS.

One incident that comes to mind happened so very long ago now.
When I worked in MN as a county deputy, the jail administrator contacted me, advising that
an officer was processing a drunk driver in the center and that she
didn't know what she was doing and that I need to come in and intervene or assist?

I came in and stood silently in the processing room for a while.
I noticed that the officer was completely screwed up on the processing order.....

I asked her what she was doing?

When I questioned the officer on probable cause, there was none!
The suspect passed the field sobriety test and the PBT, but the officer arrested the driver anyway??????????
She thought that it was the right thing to do..............
I advised the officer to stop what she was doing and take the driver home.
She complied and nothing was heard of this incident again.

I once asked a city prosecutor in a larger community about releasing an arrested person upon
discovery that it was a bad arrest, lacking probable cause. The prosecutor said that at anytime during
the arrest or processing, evidence is obtain that indicates that it's a bad arrest, that the arrest or processing
should be ended before placing the suspect in jail. He said to end it. Do your written report explaining your
actions and he would handle it from there. This was an Iowa prosecutor in the early
1980's. I have no idea if this still holds true?


Anyway, there is a big payday coming for this pastor and or his congregation. Lots of $$$$ to change hands.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
That's not even police work, I'm not sure what the police were thinking here??

One of the officers said that once an arrest has been made, he had to follow through
with the charges. I never heard the words of; you're under arrest. I only saw the handcuffs
being placed on the pastor. The idea of if handcuffs go on, implying an arrest has been made and someone
goes to jail is BS.

One incident that comes to mind happened so very long ago now.
When I worked in MN as a county deputy, the jail administrator contacted me, advising that
an officer was processing a drunk driver in the center and that she
didn't know what she was doing and that I need to come in and intervene or assist?

I came in and stood silently in the processing room for a while.
I noticed that the officer was completely screwed up on the processing order.....

I asked her what she was doing?

When I questioned the officer on probable cause, there was none!
The suspect passed the field sobriety test and the PBT, but the officer arrested the driver anyway??????????
She thought that it was the right thing to do..............
I advised the officer to stop what she was doing and take the driver home.
She complied and nothing was heard of this incident again.

I once asked a city prosecutor in a larger community about releasing an arrested person upon
discovery that it was a bad arrest, lacking probable cause. The prosecutor said that at anytime during
the arrest or processing, evidence is obtain that indicates that it's a bad arrest, that the arrest or processing
should be ended before placing the suspect in jail. He said to end it. Do your written report explaining your
actions and he would handle it from there. This was an Iowa prosecutor in the early
1980's. I have no idea if this still holds true?


Anyway, there is a big payday coming for this pastor and or his congregation. Lots of $$$$ to change hands.

It may still be a thing here. I live in a large university town, the local po po has something called the "cage" it's a large box truck and they pick up drunk students (typically females trying to walk home but are falling down drunk), put them in there, yes it has AC/Heat and a loo, and let them sit until their sober. Be a dick about it and you'll land in the slammer with charges filed.

I know someone who landed in the "cage" and he was upset because they played Days of Our Lives non-stop on the tv! :xpnd:
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
"I'm the neighbor. I am here at the request of homeowner. I live there. My name is xxxx.
Am I free to go? I want a lawyer."

Not another word. No ID relinquished until they rip it from your pants pocket.


Then you eliminate your bowels&bladder in your pants at the mental anguish to which you were subjected. Preferably in the cruiser. It is all about damages at that point...
 
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kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The problem is that officers are being taught "arrest them and let the court sort it out". I hear that a lot on transcribes. A LOT. "Get a lawyer and tell the court." Over and over. Which completely ignores that most people can't afford a lawyer. And that PAs are already overloaded with cases and don't need a bunch of useless, no reason cases to deal with. And they don't have the time, so if the person arrested doesn't do all the footwork there is a good chance that the charges will stand. And even if they do, if the PA is particularly lazy the same thing will happen.
Basically officers are not expected to know the law at all and to not use even basic common sense.
Common sense would have said, "Take a look around, write a report, contact the homeowner when they return to town." The guy wasn't a running risk. He lived in the neighborhood. Neighbors spoke for him. Instead some officer got a bug up his butt and decided that they had to cuff him and pull him into the precinct to process. Probably a case of ego. And yeah, probably a lot of racial profiling.
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This saddens me that my choosen profession did this
And a supervisor was there and didn’t stop it
Sad
Uncalled for
This incident further “blackens the eye” of all the competent and good officers wearing the uniform. This incident will make it all the easier for folks to disrespect LEOs in the future. And it will lend more people to chant “Defund the Poloce,” when, in fact, it is poor folks and minorities who suffer the most when police are defunded.
 

Milkweed Host

Veteran Member
Iowa still has a public intoxication law on the books.
The public intox are suppose to offered some form of treatment first, but
not sure that is ever none??? It's straight to jail.

In a university town the police will have to be well groomed to not piss off the
the local university administration. College kids like to party and if they
all end up in jail, mommy and daddy have to blame someone...That means
less money for the local college when the kids transfer.

I never heard of the intox cage, but like it. I'm sure everything is recorded inside the box.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Iowa still has a public intoxication law on the books.
The public intox are suppose to offered some form of treatment first, but
not sure that is ever none??? It's straight to jail.

In a university town the police will have to be well groomed to not piss off the
the local university administration. College kids like to party and if they
all end up in jail, mommy and daddy have to blame someone...That means
less money for the local college when the kids transfer.

I never heard of the intox cage, but like it. I'm sure everything is recorded inside the box.

Most hate it because they’re made to blow to see what their alcohol levels are. It’s not so there will be arrests, it stems from a situation that happened about ten plus years ago. a college kid died of alcohol poisoning and his level of toxicity was missed. They have medics who also work the ‘cage’ for this very reason. Young kids away from home for the first time ever do really stupid things that can result in death.
 
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Macgyver

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I remember a story from a few years ago town near me.
New rookie sees a guy barely/horribly drunkenly walking down the street.
Rookie picks him up brings him to the station.
As soon as he brings him in the building the more senior guys say wtf, that's Bob the town drunk. We're not changing him.
Put him back in the car and take him home.
Rookie proceeds to drop him off where he found him, not his home.
Yep minutes later he gets turfed by a car.
Bob the town drunk scored the lottery on that settlement.
 

workhorse

Veteran Member
As someone once explained to me that their are Peace Officers who listens don’t jump to conclusions and enforce laws when they are broken fairly and equally and then their are cops.
 

Warthog

Black Out
Once an officer arrest you, he can un-arrest you if facts change, so that officer is full of it. Also I noticed the Pastor, or so called Pastor is being an asshole!
 

MountainBiker

Veteran Member
Much of the problem with policing is that in the rare occasion a cop is going to be held to consequences for their actions, they just move on to another town or county's force, whether they were fired or, more frequently, allowed to resign instead of being fired.

In my State a Connecticut State Trooper applying to become a small town police chief made it to the final 2 under consideration before it was discovered that he and two buddies got caught on camera a few years ago fabricating charges so as to allow them to arrest a guy. The guy sued and won, and this particular trooper was subsequently promoted. WTF?

In a nearby town a cop resigned a couple years ago after the district attorney slapped him with some status that effectively said she would no longer accept his testimony after he got caught fabricating charges on a couple occasions, effectively making him useless as a cop in that town. He doesn't get fired but rather resigns and gets hired by another town in the next county over. Recently he was in charge of a rookie trainee and the trainee shoots some guy in the head (& no gun in the victims hand or shots ever fired by the victim) that had crashed after a chase. If the cop in charge of that scene was effectively deemed persona non grata where he previously worked, what in the world made his new employer think he would be a good cop, one good enough to be training new recruits?

Elsewhere in the State, a Sheriff's Dept. Captain was just fired for kicking a handcuffed arrestee in the stomach, twice, on camera. Still too early to know if criminal charges will be filed, but the guy is on the ballot (as a Republican) to become Sheriff this Nov. and won't withdraw. Apparently he doesn't see that he did anything wrong.

And they wonder why the public is increasingly distrustful of police. Thank goodness for the proliferation of cameras because surely everything that gets caught on camera now was happening before and it was left to the word of the police vs the arrestee.
 

robolast

Senior Member
Just when you thought cops could not get any dumber, See for yourself.
Lots of pictures and video at source of the suspect NOT committing a crime.


Black pastor files lawsuit after he was handcuffed for watering his neighbor's flowers​




Black pastor is set to file a discrimination lawsuit against the police after he was handcuffed for watering his neighbor's flowers while they were out of town - despite a white woman stepping in and coming to his defense.
Pastor Michael Jennings was arrested in May outside his neighbor's yard in Childersburg, Alabama, after police received a complaint about a strange man and vehicle on the property.

Jennings, who was seen in the clip watering the flowers with a hose, had just returned from Sunday service. He told police his long-term neighbor asked him to look after his shrubbery while he was out of town.
But despite his good intentions and other residents vouching for him, Jennings was taken to jail and later charged with obstruction of government operation.

After insisting that he was just calmly gardening in the front yard, police asked Jennings: 'How do we know that's the truth?'
The baffled pastor, who lives in the house across the street, responded: 'I had the water hose in my hand! I was watering the flowers.'
Body camera footage showed three officers from Childersburg Police Department screaming at Jennings as he refused to provide identification - before he was ushered away in handcuffs.
Jennings later learned the person who called 911 knew him but didn't recognize him when she called in the report.
Police handcuff a black pastor for watering neighbor's flowers


One of the female residents, who also lived on the street, told the officers that the pastor and the homeowner were indeed friends
Laughing in disbelief during the encounter, the pastor tells the officers: 'Y'all racially profiled me.'
An unidentified officer then says: 'We're not racially profiling you,' before Jennings rebukes: 'Yes, you did.'
The officer continues: 'No sir, no sir. We're not about that okay?'
A white resident then intervened and told officers that Jennings lived next door - insisting that he was friends with the homeowner who had left earlier that day.

'He lives right there,' the woman told police while pointing at Jennings' property.
The pastor, from Vision of Abundant Life Ministries in Sylacauga, was arrested and placed in the backseat of the cop car, despite the woman vouching for him. His mobile phone was also taken from him during the arrest.
'Does he have permission to be watering flowers?' police asked the woman.

To which the neighbor responded: 'He may because they are friends, and they went out of town today and he may be watering their flowers. It would be completely normal.'
She later added: 'This is probably my fault.'



One local, who also lived on the street, came to aid the black pastor - but despite telling cops that they were friends, Jennings was still arrested and later charged
At one point during the ordeal, Jennings could be heard speaking about his long-term neighbor: 'He is going to be so p***** when I tell him I got arrested for watering his flowers.'
Police later received notice the 'suspicious' car belonged to another man. Jennings' wife and daughter later arrived to the scene to identify him, but he was later charged with obstruction of government operation.
The charges were dropped one month later - but now the pastor is set to file a discrimination lawsuit against the officers.
'Last I checked, watering roses ain’t no crime,' Jennings told WIAT.

Following the ordeal, Jennings said that the 'emotional toll' will take him some time to recover from.
Jennings' attorney, Harry Daniels told DailyMail.com that the pastor has struggled to move past the 'traumatic' incident.
'He's a pastor, he's a man of faith, but I would be remissive if I didn't tell you that what he's dealing with is very hard.
'A split moment he felt his life could have been taken from him if he showed any resistance, even though he was right in the video.'
The pastor feared leaving to get his ID from his house and thought if he were to take off, the cops might 'put a bullet' in his back, according to Daniels.

When police asked Jennings to prove his identity, he refused since he knew - having a background in law enforcement - that he was not obliged to because he was not committing a crime and was on private property.
Daniels said that the video clearly showed police denying Jennings his rights, and revealed the cops involved as Christopher Smith, J Gable, and Sgt. Jeremy Brooks.
Neighbors call police on black pastor for watering their flowers


Multiple neighbors stood around in shock as the local pastor was taken away in the cop car. Jennings was charged, but a month later it was dropped
'If you noticed in the video, when a neighbor, the white lady said he lived [around] there, they took her word as the gospel, and the pastor who is preaching the gospel, they did not take his word at all.'
The attorney added: 'A suit needs to be filled to prevent these things from happening - and put in front of law enforcement a notice that they cannot intimidate or harass, or abuse their powers.'

Daniels told WBRC: 'These cases put law enforcement on notice and the country on notice that these types of interactions - thank God that Pastor Jennings had a cool head.
'He didn't get aggressive or defensive in a sense, and he complied when the officers grabbed him.'
'It represents racial profiling and it represents law-enforcement officers intimidating a person who actually understands and knows their rights.'

After viewing the clip on social media, one person quipped: 'If anyone wants to maliciously water my plants then I would appreciate it!'
The lawsuit against the Childersburg Police Department hasn't been filed. The department did not respond to requests for comment by DailyMail.com.

Rick McClelland, Childersburg Police Chief, told WVTM an investigation would be conducted.
Meanwhile, Jennings' other attorney, Bethaney Embry Jones, said McClelland may think the situation will be resolved by dropping the charges.
'This was a crime, not a mistake,' Jones said. 'I would hope that the Childersburg Police Department would understand the difference.'
while I'm not ready to support BLM - this is bullshit and racial profiling. Cops need punishment - without pay.
 

MountainBiker

Veteran Member
while I'm not ready to support BLM - this is bullshit and racial profiling. Cops need punishment - without pay.
Extremely rare that there are consequences. If there is enough public pressure, he'll be allowed to resign and will then get hired in another community. Rinse and repeat. The fraternity looks after its own first and foremost, same as any other "club" be it education, healthcare etc. It has to be pretty bad to be kicked out altogether.
 
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