GUNS/RLTD Bare shelves, hoarding and price gouging: How a prolonged ammunition shortage is changing Alaska’s gun culture


Alaska News
Bare shelves, hoarding and price gouging: How a prolonged ammunition shortage is changing Alaska’s gun culture
By Zachariah Hughes
Updated: December 17, 2021 Published: December 17, 2021

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A spent casing is ejected from Kyle Cahill’s gun as he aims at a target at the Noel W. Woods shooting range in Palmer. (Emily Mesner / ADN)

Kyle Cahill grew up with guns.

“I’ve been shooting since I was 8,” said the 39-year-old Palmer resident.

Raised in Alaska, Cahill is an avid hunter. He served for years in the military and is now part of the state’s Air National Guard. He views it as a part of that service to stay proficient with firearms, something he calls “a perishable skill.”

But that’s gotten harder recently. Alaska, like much of the country, is in the midst of a drastic ammunition shortage. Though the shortage has eased slightly in the past few months, nearly every kind of cartridge is harder to come by than it was before the pandemic hit in 2020. If you can find them at all.

What the shortage means for Alaskans is bare shelves in sporting goods stores, price gouging on secondary markets, hunters going into the field with just a few cartridges, fewer rounds fired at ranges by professionals and hobbyists alike, and uncertainty about when or if the situation will revert to the way things were.

The Anchorage Daily News asked readers to describe their experiences with the ammo shortage. Cahill was one of several dozen who responded. On a recent weekday afternoon, he was target shooting with pistols at an indoor range in Palmer. The facility had the feel of a locker room for a beer league hockey team, with old-timers grinning and chitchatting about their weapons as spent shell casings rolled below the mismatched furniture.

Cahill tries to put in range time every week, partly to keep sharp for his Guard duties but also out of sheer affinity for ballistics.

“I love shooting, I love the physics behind it. I love the psychology behind it,” he said. “When you’re behind a gun you have to control yourself. Being hungry affects how I shoot. Being sad affects how I shoot.”

Range regulars here have modified their shooting habits. The concussive reports of the handguns are spaced farther apart, more deliberate and measured.

“No longer are we dropping full magazines of ammunition,” Cahill said. “We adapted to be able to shoot conservatively.”

Some may see such modifications as a minor inconvenience for consumers, or a market correction from panic buying and fear-mongering that have driven gun sales to record highs in the last two years. But for many Alaskans close to firearms, whether because of ideology, vocation or to harvest their food, the shortages are changing people’s relationships to guns.

‘It’s just crazy as crazy can be’
There is no one plain reason why it’s been harder to get ammo. Instead, there are several contributing factors for the shortages Alaskans have felt acutely in the last two years.

A massive increase in the number of gun sales has coincided with national instability. The pandemic, racial justice protests, the presidential election and its aftermath are all cited as reasons. According to background check data submitted to the FBI, gun purchases rose steeply during 2020 and 2021, driven largely by first-time buyers, according to industry estimates.

Remington, the country’s oldest firearms company and a major manufacturer of high-quality ammunition, went through bankruptcy, shutting plants and laying off workers in 2020 just as consumer demands were hitting a plateau. The company’s assets were purchased by Vista Outdoor, and it has manufacturing plants running at full capacity, although a huge backlog exists.

This fall, State Department sanctions barred ammunition imports from Russia. The country’s low-quality rounds could be bought cheaply in bulk, which had served as a relief valve when American-made rounds were scarce.

“Manufacturers ramp up as fast as they can, but as long as people are buying and hoarding this stuff out of fear, it just compounds the issue,” said Dave Squier, a firearms instructor in Anchorage who has had trouble procuring enough handgun ammunition for the classes he teaches.

Squier said that while he is starting to see a little bit more regularity in the supply of calibers like 9 mm and .223, which are popular among hardcore and high-volume shooters, prices have increased significantly.

“What we’re really hurting for is hunting ammunition,” said Kent Harrington, general manager of VF Grace, a wholesale supplier that acts as a middleman for ammunition shipments for stores across Alaska.

“There’s no shortage of ammunition,” Harrington chuckled, explaining that vast quantities are piled in people’s closets, garages and gun safes, just not on the store shelves where most consumers are used to purchasing it.

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A man sorts through a pile of spent casings to repack his used ones after target practice at the Noel W. Woods shooting range in Palmer. (Emily Mesner / ADN)

Frustrated at not being able to buy ammunition online or in stores, more people have tried getting into reloading, the practice of assembling cartridges from the base components. That, in turn, has created a bigger demand for things like gunpowder, primers and brass casings than suppliers can satisfy.

“It’s just crazy as crazy can be,” Harrington said.

Compared to 2019 — the last relatively normal year for his business — in 2020 his company’s gunpowder orders went up by 750%. So far this year, they’ve tripled.

There’s a relatively limited set of options for getting ammunition into Alaska. Officially designated a “hazardous material,” it comes with restrictions on transportation, particularly along overland routes through Canada. Options for bulk shipments are primarily cargo ships, where freight space is already booked up.

“It’s much easier down south. You can put it in a truck and drive it down the road,” Squier said. “The barges are already full with our normal supplies of food and things we need to operate.”

Flying in substantial quantities is also restrictive and costly, he said.

“Not a lot of relief out there in the supply chain,” Squier said.

‘It has definitely affected how much people shoot’
The supply shortages cut across all varieties of ammunition, from shotgun shells for skeet shooting to the low-velocity .22 rounds used for training by the Anchorage Biathlon Club.

“I know we’ll run out before the season is over,” said Deana Watson, the club’s secretary.

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Deana Watson watched as her twin sons practiced at the Kincaid Park Biathlon Range on Thursday, Dec. 9, 2021. (Bill Roth / ADN)

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Anchorage Biathlon Club competitor Levi Watson, 14, loads a magazine with .22 long rifle low-velocity ammunition prior to practice at the Kincaid Park Biathlon Range. (Bill Roth / ADN)

Watson was bundled up against the cold at Kincaid Park in Anchorage on a recent afternoon as teenage biathletes practiced firing from the prone position at targets 50 meters downrange.

“Last winter, like (during) COVID, we were in super, super short supply,” Watson said as whizzing bullets plinked targets with the flat clang of pebbles striking an empty tin can. “We’re gonna end up in the same situation this winter.”

Though the club has grown the last few years, enthusiasm wanes when participants can’t get ahold of ammo to practice with. When supplies run low, athletes shoot less during training, or do dry-fire exercises and save bullets for competition. Families text one another if someone gets a lead on where to buy a brick of the right rounds. Overall, Watson said, it dampens morale for the sport.

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Anchorage Biathlon Club competitors zero their rifles prior to practice at the Kincaid Park Biathlon Range on a windy Thursday, Dec. 9, 2021. (Bill Roth / ADN)

“It has definitely affected how much people shoot,” said Zechariah Meyer, executive director of the Birchwood Recreation and Shooting Park at the northern edge of Anchorage. “You’re a little more reserved when you can’t find ammo as easily.”

There’s still plenty of ammunition out there, Meyer said, but particularly for the gun enthusiasts who use the range heavily and cycle through large numbers of rounds, people are putting more time, money and effort into tracking down supplies.

“Nowadays you hear someone unload a machine gun and you think, ‘Oh man, that was expensive,’ ” Meyer said.

‘It’s affecting things in a big way’
Hunters across Alaska are desperate for the right bullets. Dozens of readers across the state, from Klawock to Kasilof, Kodiak to Ketchikan, Fairbanks to Mekoryuk, shared stories of not being able to find ammunition in the calibers they need to hunt moose, caribou, deer and other animals for food. Others said they were running too low to sight hunting rifles going into this season.

“This year I had almost nothing to hunt with!” wrote Thomas James from Klawock. “Come opening day I had three bullets between my two rifles. With a bit of luck I was able to bring home the bacon but now I’m bullet-less!”

“I haven’t been able to buy ammo here for almost two years,” said Todd Bergman, who lives in Sitka and hunts deer in the islands of Southeast each fall. “I basically gave up.”

There are four stores that sell ammunition in Sitka, Bergman said, and the shelves in all of them are practically bare. One recently had a single box of .308 cartridges, but at $65 it was about triple the normal price.

Remote communities at the tail end of Alaska’s supply chain face even more constraints sourcing modest volumes of ammunition than do big-box stores along the Railbelt. Bergman worked in the Bush before settling in Sitka and said close friends in Aniak and New Stuyahok went into hunting season with just a handful of big-game cartridges.

“The biggest thing is you do things differently,” Bergman said. Hunting with his son this fall, the two of them stayed side by side and shared a deer rifle to conserve rounds.

One modest bright spot in this current ammunition squeeze is that compared to the last time there were comparable supply shortages, many rural stores took steps to ensure local hunters could count on finding rounds for subsistence.

“If it comes available, we buy all we can so the villages are able to get it,” said Bill Matthews, head of the distribution center for the Alaska Native Industries Cooperative Association, which supplies 40 stores in some of Western Alaska’s most remote communities. “A lot of the villages would like to get more.”

For Bergman in Sitka, the years-long scarcity has changed family rhythms. They don’t take .22s on camping trips to give kids in the family practice plinking, since the cartridges have been so hard to find. One of his adult sons learned to hunt with a bow.

“I got crossbow certified two years ago,” Bergman said.

“I think it’s affecting things in a big way.”

‘I’ll never run short till the day I die’
One of biggest factors sustaining the ammo deficit is hoarding and profiteering. Like a wildfire hot enough to make its own weather patterns, the frenzy over scarce ammo has a self-propelling dynamic that has led many to just buy whatever they can if it’s available, independent of need.

While many Alaskans have long valued preparedness and self-sufficiency, many people contacted for this story point to private ammunition stockpiles as one reason it has become so hard to find ammo.

After a close friend passed away, Anchorage resident Gino Daly acquired a cache of firearms, reloading supplies and ammunition the man had amassed. Even as he has tried to gradually liquidate, at 67 years old the passionate hunter and outdoorsman said it’s a bigger arsenal than he could use up in a lifetime.

“I’ll never run short till the day I die,” Daly said. “The shortage has not affected me at all.”

As the inheritor of a modest munitions depot, Daly’s situation is unique. But ammunition hoards in Alaska are not. For evidence, you need only look at Anchorage auction houses, which routinely handle estates that include thousands and thousands of rounds of ammo broken down into small lots and sold off at prices driven up by eager bidders.

“I would say 90% of my ammo is private,” said Jeremy Smith, who earlier this year opened The Arms Room, a gun store in North Pole. The vast majority of the ammunition he buys, stocks and resells is from individuals, in part because it is so difficult and costly to get cartridges from manufacturers shipped and trucked into the Interior.

Earlier in the year, he bought 50,000 rounds from a soldier moving out of state from the nearby military base. Even with purchasing limits, all of it sold in two hours.

What irks Smith the most, though, is the voracious secondary market, where opportunistic buyers are snatching up whatever ammunition they can, then reselling it at jacked-up prices.

“That’s a shitty thing to do,” he said.

He’s seen it with individuals who buy what little inventory he has, only to find it popping up in online exchanges or social media markets immediately afterward, like a man who stocked up on reloading supplies only to flip them days later at a trade show for several times the price.

“Half the (products) he had on his table was stuff he bought in my shop,” Smith said.

For Cahill, the guardsman in Palmer, there is a social responsibility that is part and parcel of owning firearms, a civic-mindedness that makes room for others in the shooting community. Hoarding and profiteering, in his perspective, occur at the direct expense of others.

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Kyle Cahill after an hour of target practice at the Noel W. Woods shooting range in Palmer. (Emily Mesner / ADN)

“Whenever you go and buy a stockpile of ammunition,” Cahill said, “what happens when you have a young guy or woman who wants to shoot and they can’t find ammunition? Or a hunter?”

In his mind, the accelerating shift amid the ammunition shortage is from guns as a tool to something fetishized.

“There’s not a shooting culture anymore, there’s an owner culture,” Cahill said.
 

BornFree

Came This Far
I can't imagine what it is like for the many people in Alaska that hunt for their own food. They cannot afford to buy it. It is hunt or die for many of them.
 
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fish hook

Deceased
I am seeing much higher supply. Now, if we can do something about the price gouging. At, or near a$1.00 or more a round, i just can't afford to shoot much. Even my favorite, .22, can run near $50.00 a brick. Yes, i do have a good supply, and now feel more confident in being able to replace it, but i just can't afford to.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
The guy is a socialist / communist.
I figured that out when I saw "gun culture" in the title.

Regarding supply, the ammo shelves around here are quite full now, expensive, yes. What's missing is anything 410 a Judge or Governor will shoot. It's no where, not even bird shot.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Need a solid thread spelling out the difference between being prepared and stocking items you might need in the future, verses hoarding which is done at the tail end when things get scarce, often to be sold for a profit. The .gov folks are gonna confiscate one's items that they may have bought years ago, and call them hoarders. Heck, they've conditioned people with their own reality shows on hoarding and being mentally insane.... let alone all the cop shows making cops stars of their own, North woods cops comes to mind...but it's everywhere.

The fact they have written into law, that they have the right to take anything and everything in your posession, including you and your family members and put them to work, should be enough to highlight the absurdity of todays government. What, because they said so? Illegal, unconstitutional laws must be pointed out prior to their implementation. We need some lawyers to get on this crap.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Reloading hint: Small pistol primers - which are currently the most difficult to find - are dimensionally identical to small rifle primers. Small rifle primers are a little easier to find than small pistol primers and are completely safe to use in pistol cases. The reverse is not necessarily true, i.e. you can't always safely use small pistol primers in small rifle cases.

Small rifle primers may have slightly harder cups than small pistol primers, so on pistols with weak hammer or striker springs you may encounter misfires. I haven't had that trouble with any of my handguns, but you should test yours to make sure.

Large rifle and large pistol primers are not dimensionally identical and cannot generally be used interchangeably. It is sometimes possible to use one in the other, but that's a much more involved discussion best left for another time.

Best
Doc
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
Buy and reselling items for a higher price is not WRONG, it is basic capitalism. The owner should have sold at a higher price. His gripe seems to be someone else got the profit and not him.

The guy is a socialist / communist.

Well, I guess you are talking about the gun store owner here.

When all of this started my store was wiped out on ammo quickly. I made the decision that we were not going to do what the other stores were doing. They were buying a box of 9mm for $11.99 from the distributor or manufacturer and selling it for $50+ a box. That was price gouging. That $12 box of 9mm I still sold for $15 just like we always did. If the price to me went up, I kept the same markup. Was I pissed at the price gougers? Yes, I was. Was I going to do the same thing they were? No, I was not. Does that make me a Socialist/Communist?

You tell me...
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
Having a stock pile for your use is not HOARDING
Buy and reselling items for a higher price is not WRONG, it is basic capitalism. The owner should have sold at a higher price. His gripe seems to be someone else got the profit and not him.

The guy is a socialist / communist.
He's a capitalist, just not a great one.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
Well, I guess you are talking about the gun store owner here.

When all of this started my store was wiped out on ammo quickly. I made the decision that we were not going to do what the other stores were doing. They were buying a box of 9mm for $11.99 from the distributor or manufacturer and selling it for $50+ a box. That was price gouging. That $12 box of 9mm I still sold for $15 just like we always did. If the price to me went up, I kept the same markup. Was I pissed at the price gougers? Yes, I was. Was I going to do the same thing they were? No, I was not. Does that make me a Socialist/Communist?

You tell me...

I see nothing wrong with selling a box to Republicans for $15 each, and to Democrats for $50 each.
 

marsofold

Veteran Member
Here is a link commenting on the fact that TWO companies control almost all of the ammo available in Amerika:


What is hoarding? Is it buying ammo and reloading components over a period of many years to prepare for where we are today? If so, I plead guilty. Not to resell, but maintained for personal security. Currently, I have:

12,000 rounds of .22LR CCI Velocitor hollowpoints,
12,000 rounds of 5.56mm (10 cases of Israeli ammo),
10,600 "rounds" of .454 Casull Magnum reloading components (I reload 454),
4,000 rounds of .45ACP Winchester Ranger T-45 hollowpoints (marketed as "Law Enforcement Only")
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38,600 bullets total. Am I really a hoarder? At my peak I had 44,000 on hand. I can only imagine what ABC News would call me. Yet there were some competition guys at my former gun club (I moved away) who would consider it as minimal. I am thinking of breaking it into caches and burying most of it.
 

stop tyranny

Veteran Member
So tired of hearing terms like "hoarding" or "gouging". The same people who wasted money on temporary pleasures such as entertainment, dining, sports, or the latest big boy toy instead of buying ammo and firearms when prices were low now complain that the prices are high. You do not see people offering to sell their stocks, homes, gold, and silver for their original purchase price when they increase in value. But for some reason the two commodities people get most upset about increasing in price are firearms and ammo. Anybody stocking ammo or as the "karens" call "hoarding" is doing so knowing there may come a time when they may need it and it will not be readily available. I do not like paying inflated prices any more than the next person, but it is true capitalism and supply and demand dictate what any commodity is worth at any given time.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
Here is a link commenting on the fact that TWO companies control almost all of the ammo available in Amerika:


What is hoarding? Is it buying ammo and reloading components over a period of many years to prepare for where we are today? If so, I plead guilty. Not to resell, but maintained for personal security. Currently, I have:

12,000 rounds of .22LR CCI Velocitor hollowpoints,
12,000 rounds of 5.56mm (10 cases of Israeli ammo),
10,600 "rounds" of .454 Casull Magnum reloading components (I reload 454),
4,000 rounds of .45ACP Winchester Ranger T-45 hollowpoints (marketed as "Law Enforcement Only")
---------------
38,600 bullets total. Am I really a hoarder? At my peak I had 44,000 on hand. I can only imagine what ABC News would call me. Yet there were some competition guys at my former gun club (I moved away) who would consider it as minimal. I am thinking of breaking it into caches and burying most of it.
I just don't think I'd list my entire inventory anywhere on the net. I have a feeling some MiB has yours recorded for future reference. I could be wrong, and I hope I'm wrong. But you did spell it correctly, this is Amerika.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Having a stock pile for your use is not HOARDING
Buy and reselling items for a higher price is not WRONG, it is basic capitalism. The owner should have sold at a higher price. His gripe seems to be someone else got the profit and not him.

The guy is a socialist / communist.


Funny how many are, just under the surface.
 

Elza

Veteran Member
I just don't think I'd list my entire inventory anywhere on the net. I have a feeling some MiB has yours recorded for future reference. I could be wrong, and I hope I'm wrong. But you did spell it correctly, this is Amerika.
Absolutely! OPSEC. First, last, and always!
 

marsofold

Veteran Member
Really, it isn't that much ammo. Two dozen bricks of 22s. Meh...
10 cases of AR ammo. And some 45 for the every day carry.
The reloading stuff is all entirely legal and unloaded, at a typical reloading bench for a revolver hunting cartridge. Not a big deal at all. Lots of people all over reload. Factory 454 ammo has always cost at least $1.75/round, too rich for my budget, so I reload to save money. I'm so rural that I could shoot rifles from my back porch and nobody would ever even hear it, so I don't need to be in a gun club to shoot anymore.
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
I’m looking into archery these days…there is a good place in my little nook of Alaska for lessons, gear, practice ranges. And for real, all my beautiful arms and ammo that I’d collected for years were indeed lost - not a boating accident, but theft and fire. No paper means no insurance so I have to bite the bullet, so to speak ;) Have to start from scratch for that - I am not complaining or feeling sorry for myself. It’s just the way it is.

But meanwhile, I’d really like to relearn archery, and I do have pretty good strength overall, so we’ll see. I’m signed up to start after the snow ends my yard work. I would love to snowshoe out on a winter afternoon and return with a brace of hares some day.
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
To the Modern American……the Second Amendment means only sort of kind of unrestricted access to guns and ammunition, never the actual use of the same in defense against lethal government overreach.


I think we need a Founding Father to come back and re-explain the original intent……

But would even that help ?
 

subnet

Boot
To the Modern American……the Second Amendment means only sort of kind of unrestricted access to guns and ammunition, never the actual use of the same in defense against lethal government overreach.


I think we need a Founding Father to come back and re-explain the original intent……

But would even that help ?
No it wouldn't, the Marxists have figured out they can just ignore facts and get away with it.
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
I’m looking into archery these days…there is a good place in my little nook of Alaska for lessons, gear, practice ranges. And for real, all my beautiful arms and ammo that I’d collected for years were indeed lost - not a boating accident, but theft and fire. No paper means no insurance so I have to bite the bullet, so to speak ;) Have to start from scratch for that - I am not complaining or feeling sorry for myself. It’s just the way it is.

But meanwhile, I’d really like to relearn archery, and I do have pretty good strength overall, so we’ll see. I’m signed up to start after the snow ends my yard work. I would love to snowshoe out on a winter afternoon and return with a brace of hares some day.
You might look into a good crossbow also.
My daughter can shoot my Excalibur 420 Assassin TD with no trouble. My granddaughter, 8, can cock it too and has shot it. It has a silent crank on it that reduces the cocking effort to 12 lbs I believe it is. You can hunt regular rifle season with one in AK just not the archery seasons.
It’s a recurve so there is only the one string. No cables or pulleys. I like keeping it simple.
They are spendy but very durable and in a pinch with a little skill you can fashion your own bolts. I have made some home made ones from 3/8 dowel rod, used duct tape for fletching and mad some broad heads from spoons just to see how they would work. They worked fine at short range. No where near as accurate factory bolts but they would kill.
Sportsman’s Guide sells them. They have a four pay plan so that you don’t have to take the brunt of the cost all at once.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
To the Modern American……the Second Amendment means only sort of kind of unrestricted access to guns and ammunition, never the actual use of the same in defense against lethal government overreach.


I think we need a Founding Father to come back and re-explain the original intent……

But would even that help ?
Talk and words are meaningless. Second Amendment, Founding Fathers, original intent, etc...all meaningless. Each individual makes their own decision on what they are doing, in the here and now. As many others have stated, it's best to keep quiet about what one is doing.

There are an estimated 600,000,000 million privately held guns in this country. There are so many, that the estimates are only within about 100,000,000. And, the American people are not going to give them up. The more the PERCEPTION is that gov will attempt to take them away, or restrict buying, the more the people go out and buy even more.

Access to ammunition is the only potential problem that I could see.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I was in our local general store the other day and I walked over to their guns and ammo section.
I noticed the ammo aisle was now about half full. Then I saw a stack of new regular 38-55 shells. They were $92 plus tax for a box of 20! These were not special in any way just regular rounds at $5 per shot. Glad I have plenty of reloading supplies.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Bannon's War Room periodically advertises "Laser sighting gizmos" that you use to practice shoot - and get instant computer feedback on your accuracy.

Without using actual ammunition.

"90 percent of purchasers increase their accuracy in the first 10 minutes of practice."

Dobbin
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
You might look into a good crossbow also.
My daughter can shoot my Excalibur 420 Assassin TD with no trouble. My granddaughter, 8, can cock it too and has shot it. It has a silent crank on it that reduces the cocking effort to 12 lbs I believe it is. You can hunt regular rifle season with one in AK just not the archery seasons.
It’s a recurve so there is only the one string. No cables or pulleys. I like keeping it simple.
They are spendy but very durable and in a pinch with a little skill you can fashion your own bolts. I have made some home made ones from 3/8 dowel rod, used duct tape for fletching and mad some broad heads from spoons just to see how they would work. They worked fine at short range. No where near as accurate factory bolts but they would kill.
Sportsman’s Guide sells them. They have a four pay plan so that you don’t have to take the brunt of the cost all at once.
Thank you! That is excellent and encouraging info. I do still have a lot of tools and bits and bobs around to fabricate what I want. And I have traps that I’ll run this winter too. It’s going to be a tough one, but then, that makes success all the sweeter.

I see more work ahead, but that’s good too.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
Well, I guess you are talking about the gun store owner here.

When all of this started my store was wiped out on ammo quickly. I made the decision that we were not going to do what the other stores were doing. They were buying a box of 9mm for $11.99 from the distributor or manufacturer and selling it for $50+ a box. That was price gouging. That $12 box of 9mm I still sold for $15 just like we always did. If the price to me went up, I kept the same markup. Was I pissed at the price gougers? Yes, I was. Was I going to do the same thing they were? No, I was not. Does that make me a Socialist/Communist?

You tell me...

capitalism without a heart for people, is what it is today.

When I sold on ebay, my used parts prices were 1/4 of the new retail price, which I believe was fair.

Some rare items were priced about the same(1/4) or guestimated, based on price averages, but were more pricey obviously.

I had no problem saving someone a pile of money by offering something used in good condition.

I didnt get rich but I slept good at night.
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
Anyone thinking about getting in to archery: DO IT.
That being said... it is a learning curve like gardening, and not cheap to start.

Even if you are thinking about hunting and getting a big 70-80# compound or long bow... START WITH A SMALL, LIGHT BOW! Like a 10-20# bow will teach you EVERYTHING you need to know about form, repetition, and drop (arc).

Takes 10,000 arrows to be an expert. If you start heavy you'll only be able to shoot 5-10 rounds and then will likely be sore for a few days- preventing more practice. A small bow will now wear you out after 20/50 rounds and unlikely to be sore after the first few times. The first few times, even with a small bow, will "wake up" muscles you didn't know you had!

Sizing up to a bigger bow will be easier because you will already have developed ALL THE SKILLS and just droppage needs adjusted, which most archers can shoot any bow they pick up, PRETTY DAMN ACCURATELY by the second or third shot. The first shot or two tells you the drop. The rest is all the same.
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
The term you’re seeking is “predatory capitalism.”
That's an oxymoron. Capitalism is the fairest to EVERYONE. It's THE NATURAL STATE OF THINGS. It's when you start adding arbitrary rules, and the government (those who have monopolized force) start picking arbitrary recipients of others labors (mental and physical) that you get graft, corruption, and predatory behavior. THEFT & VIOLENCE.

That capitalism can even BE predatory evidences a lack of comprehension of the system. Don't want it, don't buy it- go find/make/create/spend your time getting your own. We've never seen true capitalism. Even the lemonade stand of 4 year olds is subject to graft and corruption. FJB.
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
No, it is not.
oh. So explain an instance where someone should have to give something of theirs to someone else at a price not set by the owner?

Even in a natural disaster, who gets decide who's stuff is "states property" and who's is sovereign? And is that by force? They'll jail and kill you if not? Is that predatory or 'fair'? More predatory or fair than selling the stuff you wasted your physical and mental labor, time, & money on, to someone who values it LESS than you do? A remedial perusal of atlas shrugged is in order, my friend!
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
What price would be "predatory" for a new condition AR-15 with 150 rounds the day after a nuke went off in DC and the power went off in your hometown? 2x the day before yesterdays price? 5x? I'd pay 10x+ if I didn't have one and had the cash. Who gets to decide? Would $2k be predatory since you can get that for under $600 today?

Keep in mind, 90+% of Biden voters are SURE minimum wage is predatory, SURE college loan repayal is predatory, SURE a 6% APR mortgage is PREDATORY... so who, where, and when do the lines get drawn? Or is PRIVATE PROPERTY SACROSANCT and ONLY THE OWNER KNOWS IT'S TRUE VALUE TO THEM?
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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You don’t understand the meaning of the term, and even if I took the time to explain it to you, you wouldn’t give a shit.

So no, I won’t waste precious heartbeats trying to tell you anything.

“Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.”
 
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