CHAT Ayn Rand fans?

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
If you are you probably read Atlas Shrugged and may have watch the mini series of it.
You might have watch The Fountainhead but have you seen Ayn Rand and the Prophecy of Atlas Shrugged?
Hmm, had not heard of that documentary. Thanks for mentioning it, will have to watch this weekend!
 

Squib

Veteran Member
Yep, and when we homeschooled our kids, they all were introduced to her…

Rush’s album, 2112 turned me on to her writings…first read Anthem, the fountainhead, and other, finally, Atlas Shrugged.

The last one is one of the best books I’ve ever read!

As someone’s already stated, we’re living it…it’s uncanny.
 

crossbowboy

Certifiable
In all seriouslyness, my cousin made a statement once. He's the one with the tour bus and the music vids on YouLose.

He said: Your dad and my dad could have saved the world, but they just sit there, indulge in vices, and bitch about things.

I said: Have you met the people they would have done that for?

True story.
 

mattbert

Veteran Member
A note in reply.... The outcome of Atlas Shrugged is totally dependent on a Deus ex machina. A fantasy. Without that "God in the machine," there is no hope in the book.

I thought I read that Ayn Rand was an atheist. I really enjoyed the book (except the 30 page John Galt radio speech, that I read the first few pages and the last few pages, like lots of other people) but will note that the issues that the book brought up, and that we're living, can only be fixed by the Lord.

From a worldly perspective, a lot of the principalities and people who are driving the mess we're in now are also going to offer a "solution" in the form of a man to the problems they're creating.

mattbert
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
That Ayn Rand was a professed atheist was kind of my point. In order to "save" the book, she had to stick in a Godlike solution (God in the Machine). I've always wondered if she was aware of the hypocrisy in her solution. Nonetheless, her descriptions of the dissolution of western civilization were spot on, and so far we have no deus ex machina along the lines she proposed.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
A note in reply.... The outcome of Atlas Shrugged is totally dependent on a Deus ex machina. A fantasy. Without that "God in the machine," there is no hope in the book.
I have often thought Rand "Missed a bet" in not doing a sequel to AS.

She could have followed out the failure of civilization (lights go off in NYC) and done a "rise of the new National Capital" in Galt's Gulch.

Possibly even thrown in those who appear to support Galt - but are actually aligned with the non-producers. Of course her time frame preceded the rise of China and the purchase of wide swaths of the "conservative."

But EVERY fiction needs an adversary close at hand. Like we have now.

Not that we're living a fiction...

Dobbin
 

Binkerthebear

Veteran Member
The dhems failed to see the message of Atlas Shrugged but do use it as a how to manual.
If any Dems ever read it, they certainly didn’t understand or appreciate it. (They’re too stupid to see it’s their manual; it’s their massive number of character flaws that dictate their actions and insane ideology). It’s amazing that Rand could so accurately describe the future (now) and the speeches of Reardon and Galt are brilliant.
 

happyface78

Contributing Member
I love Ayn Rand's writings. Not perfect, but so on point that (for me) they serve as a wonderful guide for many situations.

Even her being an atheist doesn't bother me, as I've found her writings go well with Scripture despite her atheism.
 

Carl2

Pass it forward...
Reading her little book "Anthem" when I was 12 changed my life for the better. She opened the eyes of many toward liberty.
 

RememberGoliad

Veteran Member
It's easy to reconcile Rand's beliefs with Christianity if you look at right vs wrong. I never took her position as anti- Christian as much as arriving at the same philosophy without what she saw as the middlemen.

For every exhortation of an Osteen type to love and give, there are a larger number of warnings to be discerning in what you lend support to.

There is nothing un- Christian in Galt's oath, taken in context and with the understanding that one may give freely if one wishes. Being threatened with snips of Bible if you don't, is not "freely".

Basically, man has free will and must use it as wisely as possible, never forgetting where we came from.
 

teneo

Always looking for details I may have missed.
I think she had tremendous insight into human nature and political causes and effects, although since she lived under a communist system maybe that goes with her upbringing. She lived through it. But like all the great Russian authors she really couldn't stop herself from using 100 sentences when only 6 or 7 would suffice. She needed a more assertive editor.

But still a great read and I have her books in my library.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
It's easy to reconcile Rand's beliefs with Christianity if you look at right vs wrong. I never took her position as anti- Christian as much as arriving at the same philosophy without what she saw as the middlemen.

For every exhortation of an Osteen type to love and give, there are a larger number of warnings to be discerning in what you lend support to.

There is nothing un- Christian in Galt's oath, taken in context and with the understanding that one may give freely if one wishes. Being threatened with snips of Bible if you don't, is not "freely".

Basically, man has free will and must use it as wisely as possible, never forgetting where we came from.

Matthew 12:30

I'll never read one of Rand's books. In any of them, did Galt profess that he was for Christ? Otherwise, he would be against (anti) Christ, according to Matthew 12:30.
 

happyface78

Contributing Member
Matthew 12:30

I'll never read one of Rand's books. In any of them, did Galt profess that he was for Christ? Otherwise, he would be against (anti) Christ, according to Matthew 12:30.

Amazing how so many religious extremists think alike, yet claim they don't.
 

foreverkeeps

Veteran Member
Matthew 12:30

I'll never read one of Rand's books. In any of them, did Galt profess that he was for Christ? Otherwise, he would be against (anti) Christ, according to Matthew 12:30.

So we can assume you don't read hardly any, if any, secular books? Jane Austin, Mark Twain, John Steinbeck, Jack London, Ernest Hemmingway, etc?
 
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