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ocd

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SCR1 said:
Anyone have experience with Tamiflu?

I do. About two years ago everybody around here had the flu.. I had a important meeting out of town had to make.. I started taking it so would not get the flu.. It worked,, BUT when I quit taking it I got so sick that someone had to help me to the hospital.. They heard me for two days in a hotel room and sent for staff to help me.. Believe I would have died if they did not help me. SO do not know if it magnified the flu or just held it off for awhile..
 

Roxann

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SCR1 said:
Anyone have experience with Tamiflu?

Please research Tamiflu. After I researched it, I discovered that because of an
existing health problem, I cannot take it. There are also some very bad
side effects for some who have used Tamiflu.

Rox
 

Kim99

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Thanks for all your work, Martin. Maybe this thread doesn't have an exciting title? :confused: :lol: Kim
 

dissimulo

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Shakey said:
SCR a FWIW;

The Chinese/Vietnamese have used Tamiflu on their poultry in Asia! And there has been samples coming out of Vietnamn showing that some of the H5N1 strains have developed a resistance to Tamiflu....

Close, but not quite right. The Chinese used another generic antiviral (acyclovir, I think) to treat poultry, so bird flu is now (potentially) resistant to it. Tamiflu is Oseltamivir sulfate, a different substance. It is also non-generic, expensive, and available only in small quantities, so it is highly unlikely that it has been used to treat animals.
 
dissimulo said:
Close, but not quite right. The Chinese used another generic antiviral (acyclovir, I think) to treat poultry, so bird flu is now (potentially) resistant to it. Tamiflu is Oseltamivir sulfate, a different substance. It is also non-generic, expensive, and available only in small quantities, so it is highly unlikely that it has been used to treat animals.


I have *different* information in regards to Tamiflu; and, if you don't mind, I'll play it safe (and not depend on it to protect me and mine)........
 
Martin said:
Will be posting updates at current events.

Don't see much use for more than one flu thread ;)


Mr. Martin;

Sir - I see no conflict in there being for a day (2) different threads, 1) I posted, not really thinking about your thread. 2) likely it will be days before I post news of any sort to the main board. (Quite simply, neither my health or time allows me to do so again.

4) Since you have apparently taken umbrage to the thread - I here-to-forth promice not to post another duplicate thread on the main board............

Let's just face it sir; it is not important enough for me to have hard feelings about the matter........

I did (and do) have places I can go to secure info on how to protect one from H5N1 (for those who asked for such needed information)... But I *know* that you also can supply that same information to them - likely easier than I could......
 

Martin

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4) Since you have apparently taken umbrage to the thread - I here-to-forth promice not to post another duplicate thread on the main board............

Let's just face it sir; it is not important enough for me to have hard feelings about the matter........



I agree 100 percent. I am not taking umbrage with your thread, as I do not think any thread is worth arguing about. My thoughts were about duplicating articles. ;)
 

neosgirl

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Threads merged, will delete duplicate articles.

If there is a problem with this please PM me directly.

peace
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dissimulo

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Shakey said:
I have *different* information in regards to Tamiflu; and, if you don't mind, I'll play it safe (and not depend on it to protect me and mine)........

Well, I'm certainly not suggesting that you rely on it to protect you. At best, Tamiflu may help a bit, but it probably won't prevent you from getting sick. You would have to be rich to use it as a prophylactic and it is generally not recommended for long term use anyway.

Do you have a source for the info that there is a Tamiflu resistant strain? That is important information.
 

Kim99

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http://www.who.int/entity/wer/2005/wer8027.pdf

WHO: Avian influenza, Viet Nam

Avian influenza, Viet Nam
update1
During the penultimate week of June 2005, at
the request of the Ministry of Health, WHO
sent a team of international experts to Viet
Nam to assess laboratory and epidemiological
data on recent cases and determine
whether the present level of pandemic alert
should be increased. Team members were
drawn from institutes in Australia, Canada,
Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of
China, Japan, United Kingdom and United
States having extensive experience in the
testing of avian influenza viruses in human
clinical specimens.
The team completed its work on 29 June 2005
and submitted its preliminary findings to
the government. The team found no laboratory
evidence suggesting that human infections
are occurring with greater frequency
or that the virus is spreading readily among
humans. The current level of pandemic alert,
which has been in effect since January 2004,
remains unchanged.
Some reports now circulating suggest that
WHO has downgraded its assessment of the
pandemic threat. These reports are unfounded.
The experts were specifically asked to search
for evidence that could substantiate concerns
raised first at a WHO consultation2 of international
experts held in Manila, Philippines,
on 6–7 May 2005. That consultation considered
suggestive findings, largely based on
epidemiological observations, that the H5N1
virus had changed its behaviour in ways
consistent with an improved, though not yet
efficient, ability to spread directly from one
human to another. The specific epidemiolo-
gical observations considered included milder disease
across a broader age spectrum and a growing number of
clusters of cases, closely related in time and place.
More recently, testing of clinical specimens by international
experts working in Viet Nam provided further suggestive
evidence of more widespread infection with the virus,
raising the possibility of community-acquired infection.
These findings have not been confirmed by the present
investigative team.
Firm evidence of improved transmissibility would be
grounds for moving to a higher level of pandemic alert.
Because of the huge consequences of such a change, WHO
is following a cautious approach that combines heightened
vigilance for new cases with immediate international verification
of any suggestive findings.
Because detection of H5N1 in clinical specimens is technically
challenging and prone to errors, members of the
investigative team took sophisticated laboratory equipment
with them to Hanoi for on-site testing. Tests were
performed using WHO-approved reagents and primers.
While these first results are reassuring, further retesting of
clinical specimens will continue over the next few weeks to
provide the most reliable foundation possible for risk
assessment.
 

Kim99

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http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07070503/Bird_Flu_Philippines.html


Commentary
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Bird Flu and Meningococcemia in the Philippines

Recombinomics Commentary
July 7, 2005

>> "I can assure you there's no indication it's the H5N1," said Agriculture Secretary Arthur Yap, who resigned last week to fight accusations of tax fraud but has stayed on until his successor is in place.
"The situation is it's a low pathogen. It's not high. That's the only statement I can make so that people don't have to panic."
Health Secretary Francisco Duque said avian flu was detected at a duck farm in the town of Calumepit, in Bulacang province north of Manila.
"There is no cause for alarm," Duque told GMA television. "Even the ducks are not sick." <<

The detection of bird flu in the Philippines is not a surprise, since the Philippines lie in the flight path of migratory birds and the latest series of outbreaks in western China's Qinghai and Xinjiang provinces strongly implicate migratory birds in the three outbreaks that have killed geese.

Sequence data indicates that these bar headed geese in Qinghai Lake are infected with a rare form of H5N1 that has a mutation at position 627 of the PB2 protein. This change is a likely contributor to the deaths of the ducks and geese. In Vietnam however, many of the ducks are infected with H5N1 that produces not obvious ill effects in the waterfowl such as ducks and geese, yet the same H5N1 is highly lethal to humans.

Moreover, as WHO warned last fall, the ducks excrete high levels of unusually stable H5N1. Thus, the appearance of the ducks is certainly not an indication that the infection is not H5N1 nor does the appearance of the ducks predict the lethality f the H5N1 in humans.

Reports seem to indicate that labs in Australia will determine the subtype.

The Philippines has had continues outbreaks of meningo (menegococemia and meningitis), frequently associated with efficient transmission and a high case fatality rate. Meningitis / meingococemia is a common complication of influenza. There have been no indications that these patients have been tested for H5N1 even though WHO sent a team to investigate and WHO held there May emergency meeting on H5N1 in Manila, where WHO has a major presence. Remarkably, e-mails from WHO at the time of the meningococcemia outbreak indicated that the lack of poultry deaths indicated H5N1 was not present in the Philippines.

Proper testing with the appropriate primers is the way to prove or disprove H5N1 in ducks, humans, or any other unexplained outbreak in the Philippines and throughout Asia and beyond.
 

Kim99

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http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2005/07/11/headlines/index.php?news=headlines_17987652.html
Published on July 11, 2005

Discovery of infected fowl in Suphan Buri thwarts plan to declare country free of virus today; six more areas suspected

The Livestock Development Department has detected new cases of avian influenza in Suphan Buri, effectively shattering the country’s hope of declaring itself “bird flu-free” tomorrow and to boost poultry exports in the latter half of this year.

Checks are now taking place to determine whether bird flu has been the cause of the large number of deaths of fowl in six other provinces.

Nirandorn Uangtrakoolsuk, who heads the department’s Disease Control ND Veterinary Service Bureau, yesterday confirmed bird-flu outbreaks had been detected at five spots in Suphan Buri’s Sam Chuk district.

Consequently more than 450 fowl in the area had been destroyed and a ban on the movement of fowl within a 10-kilometre radius had been imposed.

“We are going to determine the cause of this fresh round of bird-flu infections,” Nirandorn said.

He was confident the latest outbreak was unlikely to spiral into a serious crisis, because the infections were limited to small locations.

He said the necessary measures had been put in place to control the outbreaks, including disinfecting the areas involved.

Nirandorn called on farmers to help the authorities by immediately alerting relevant officials to any cases of fowl dying en-masse.

“Don’t wait a few days before you report it,” he said.

His additional advice to farmers was that they should use disinfectant spray to protect their farms as well as any equipment used to raise their fowl, and stop allowing their fowl to roam freely as they could catch the disease from wild birds.

Nirandorn said the department was checking whether the mass deaths of fowl in Pathum Thani, Chachoengsao, Prachin Buri, Kalasin, Lampang and Phetchabun recently were also related to bird flu.

“We are now waiting for the results of la b tests,” he said.

He said that before this latest round of bird-flu infections, Agriculture Minister Sudarat Keyuraphan had planned to declare the country “bird-flu-free” tomorrow, 90 days after the last recorded case in Lop Buri three months ago.

“But now, we have to start from day one again,” he said.

Nirandorn said the Agriculture Ministry would also have to shelve its campaign to promote fresh chicken from Thailand. The campaign was initially expected to boost the country’s poultry exports in the latter half of this year.

Meanwhile, the Livestock Development Department’s director-general Yukol Limlamthong said he was especially concerned about the situation in nine provinces where bird-flu outbreaks were previously reported. These provinces include Suphan Buri, Phitsanulok, Lop Buri, Chai Nat and Nakhon Sawan.
 

Kim99

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http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07100502/H5N1_Thailand_Confirmed.html

Commentary
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H5N1 Bird Flu Confirmed in Thailand

Recombinomics Commentary
July 10, 2005

>> The Livestock Development Department has detected new cases of avian influenza in Suphan Buri, effectively shattering the country's hope of declaring itself "bird flu-free" tomorrow and to boost poultry exports in the latter half of this year.

Checks are now taking place to determine whether bird flu has been the cause of the large number of deaths of fowl in six other provinces.

He was confident the latest outbreak was unlikely to spiral into a serious crisis, because the infections were limited to small locations.

Nirandorn said the department was checking whether the mass deaths of fowl in Pathum Thani, Chachoengsao, Prachin Buri, Kalasin, Lampang and Phetchabun recently were also related to bird flu.

Meanwhile, the Livestock Development Department's director-general Yukol Limlamthong said he was especially concerned about the situation in nine provinces where bird-flu outbreaks were previously reported. These provinces include Suphan Buri, Phitsanulok, Lop Buri, Chai Nat and Nakhon Sawan. <<

The above comments suggest H5N1 is still killing birds in Thailand. Thailand has been filing reports to OIE every few weeks claiming no H5N1. The last report of H5N1 in birds was for the period ending April 15 with small outbreaks in Lop Buri and Suphan Buri.

Although Thailand was the first to make 2004 H5N1 sequences available last February and March, they have yet to release any 2005 sequences. The Manila report by WHO indicated 2005 isolates in Thailand were similar to 2005 isolates in northern Vietnam. All public 2005 sequences from northern Vietnam have an ARG missing in the HA cleavage site, matching 2003 and 2004 isolates from South Korea and Japan. However, the rest of the 2005 HA gene is very similar to 2004 isolates from Vietnam and Thailand, although the 2005 isolates have unique markers not found in any other H5N1 isolates.

The 2005 isolates in northern Vietnam are associated with milder cases and larger cluster. Thailand has denied human cases, although media reports describe patients from bird flu positive provinces with bird flu symptoms.

Confirmed H5 cases have been recently reported in Qinghai and Xinjiang provinces in China as well as Vietnam and the Philippines. Last week's Nature paper includes H5N1 sequences from live markets in Shantou, Fujian, Guangdong, Hunan, and Yunnan provinces in 2005. Since China has not reported any 2005 outbreaks in any of the above provinces in southeastern China, the current status of H5N1 in China is unknown, but likely active. India claim no H5N1 infections in birds or people, even though poultry workers have H5N1 antibodies and the H5N1 infected bar headed geese winter in northern India.

Clearly H5N1 activity in birds is being reported in the media more frequently, but the true H5N1 situation in Asia is largely unknown by the public.
 

Martin

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Japan region hit by bird flu to kill another 8,550 chickens

Monday • July 11, 2005

Japanese authorities said they have discovered the seventh outbreak of bird flu in less than a month in Ibaraki prefecture where some 150,000 chickens have already been been culled.

Authorities in Ibaraki, some 100 kilometres (60 miles) north of Tokyo, said they will start killing 8,550 birds Tuesday at the infected farm.

The virus has already been discoverd at six other poultry farms in a five-kilometre (three-mile) radius in Ibaraki, with the first case detected late last month.

"So far we have culled about 150,000 birds due to the infections," said a farm official at the Ibaraki prefectural government.

"Of the 18 farms in the area, 11 showed no signs of infections, but seven others did," he said Monday.

The official said the strain was of the H5 variety but that tests had yet to identify it further.

The first case in Ibaraki was found to be H5N2, a weaker strain of bird flu than H5N1 which has killed more than 50 people in Southeast Asia since 2003.

The Ibaraki government and the agriculture ministry have ordered poultry farms in the area to suspend the transport of chickens and eggs.

The ministry earlier said it believed the infection began around April, resulting in the deaths of 804 chickens at the first of the farms to report the outbreak of bird flu.

Japan has been relatively spared from bird flu. Four outbreaks were found last year which were the first cases in the archipelago since 1925. — AFP

http://www.todayonline.com/articles/60857print.asp
 

Martin

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Warnings of avian flu challenge tendency to ignore far-off threats

07/11/2005Sometimes human nature seems to work against our own well being. Take the subject of disaster. When it looms, we pay heed. When it seems far off, we are, to put it charitably, less attentive.

In recent days scientists have warned about a possible avian flu pandemic so deadly that the future of the civilization is at stake. The journals Foreign Affairs and Nature devoted large sections of their publications to warning the world about it.

Such an outbreak could make the 1918 Spanish influenza outbreak look small. Somewhere between 20 and 100 million people died in that disaster. If a strain of avian flu known as H5N1 jumps from birds to humans, then from human to human, no one knows how many might die. There too many "ifs" involved.

But we now know that migratory birds are spreading the disease out of China, where it apparently originated. The virus has jumped from chickens to waterfowl to pigs to humans. At least 54 people contracted the virus from animals and died. So far, it has not jumped from human to human.

Viruses are unpredictable. Cry wolf too often and legitimate warnings go unnoticed. Inattention could lead to an even more deadly outbreak.

Prudence, a rare virtue, is what we should be after. Public officials and citizens alike should press for contingency plans to deal with food and medical shortages and other emergencies. We should do it even without the scare headlines.



http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050711/OPINION11/507110335/1112/OPINION
 

libtoken

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There was a report on Radio Australia that Indonesia has banned the import of poultry from the Philippines in the wake of bird flu being found in the Philippines, but no link has been posted yet to the story.
 

Kim99

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http://www.vnagency.com.vn/NewsA.asp?LANGUAGE_ID=2&CATEGORY_ID=33&NEWS_ID=158707

Malaysia bans poultry from Philippines
07/12/2005 -- 21:20(GMT+7)

Kuala Lumpur (VNA) - The eastern Malaysian state of Sabah has imposed an immediate ban on the import of all birds from the Philippines after the latter reported its first case of bird flu last week.

Sabah state, located on the island of Borneo, lies close to the Philippines and there are frequent movements of people and goods between the two regions.

Malaysian Agriculture and Food Industry Minister Abdul Rahim said permits to import birds from the Philippines had been immediately suspended and the transit of all birds through Sabah was also restricted.

He also warned visitors not to bring birds or bird products to Malaysia.-Enditem
 

Martin

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Date:13/07/2005 URL: http://www.thehindu.com/2005/07/13/stories/2005071311170100.htm
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Bird sanctuaries to be monitored

Vani Doraisamy

Precautions being taken in the wake of bird flu panic in East Asia





CHENNAI: Faced with the possibility of a deadly bird flu virus, which has been causing panic in East Asia over the last two months, spreading to India through migratory birds, the Departments of Environment and Forests and Animal Husbandry will monitor 50 bird sanctuaries in the country.

The birds that will be closely watched are waterfowls such as bar-headed geese (which have died in large numbers in China's Qinghai province and are likely to start migrating next month across the Himalayas to Burma, India and Pakistan), brown-headed and black-headed gulls and great cormorants, which are known to be infected with the A/H5N1 virus. The virus spreads to humans through poultry that comes into contact with infected wild birds.

Top officials from the departments met on Monday and formulated a plan for continuous monitoring.

The U.N. Food and Agriculture Organisation has advised against killing of wild birds and recommended surveillance and vaccination of poultry in high-risk areas.

Blood samples to be taken


"We have asked all State Animal Husbandry departments to take blood samples from poultries in the vicinity of bird sanctuaries and, where possible, from migratory birds. Sanctuary-wise monitoring will be done continuously and samples will be sent to the high-security Animal Disease Laboratory in Bhopal. This in addition to our regular monitoring," P.M.A Hakeem, Union Animal Husbandry Secretary, told The Hindu over phone from New Delhi.

"We will monitor the migratory patterns of the birds," a senior wildlife official said.

In Tamil Nadu, the spotlight will be on sanctuaries in Vedanthangal and Karikili in Kancheepuram, Vettangudi in Sivaganga, Pulicat in Tiruvallur, Kanchirangulam and Chitrangudi in Ramanathapuram, Udayamarthandapuram and Vaduvur in Thiruvarur, Point Calimere in Vedaranyam and Kunthangulam in Tirunelveli.

The bar-headed goose is known to visit Kunthangulam and coastal south Tamil Nadu. The brown and black-headed gulls and cormorants are frequent visitors to avian hotspots in the State, including the Adyar estuary in Chennai.

Naturalists say there may be no need for panic as there is no proof that the birds come in from China.
 

Kim99

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http://www.chinaview.cn/
2 Indonesians die from suspected bird flu

JAKARTA, July 13 (Xinhuanet) -- A father and his little daughter have died at a hospital in the western Java town of Tangerang from suspected avian influenza, local media reports said Wednesday.

Iwan Siswara Rafei, a staff with the Supreme Audit Body (BPK), died at the Siloam Gleneagles Hospital Tuesday afternoon after showing bird flu symptoms, reported the Detikcom online news service.

His daughter Thalita Nurul Azizah died earlier Saturday with similar symptoms, it said. Another daughter Sabrina Nurul Aisyah, who was first detected with the symptoms, is still under intensive treatment at the same hospital, around 20 km south of Jakarta.

She suffers high fever and respiratory problems.

The reports were first released by Metro TV, which reported that the family suffered the disease after their trip to Hong Kong and India.

The Indonesian government has confirmed bird flu outbreak among chickens and only one person, a poultry worker in South Sulawesi province, was tested positive of the disease. Enditem

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07130502/H5N1_Export_Indonesia.html
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H5N1Bird Flu Exported to Indonesia from Hong Kong or India?

Recombinomics Commentary
July 13, 2005

A father and his little daughter have died at a hospital in the western Java town of Tangerang from suspected avian influenza, local media reports said Wednesday.

Iwan Siswara Rafei, a staff with the Supreme Audit Body (BPK), died at the Siloam Gleneagles Hospital Tuesday afternoon after showing bird flu symptoms, reported the Detikcom online news service.

His daughter Thalita Nurul Azizah died earlier Saturday with similar symptoms, it said. Another daughter Sabrina Nurul Aisyah, who was first detected with the symptoms, is still under intensive treatment at the same hospital, around 20 km south of Jakarta.

She suffers high fever and respiratory problems.

The reports were first released by Metro TV, which reported that the family suffered the disease after their trip to Hong Kong and India.

The above familial cluster of bird flu is of concern for many reasons. Since a family of three has symptoms, human-to-human transmission is a major consideration. In addition, the return from a trip abroad highlights the potential of H5N1 being just one flight away, as well as the possibility of spread via other passengers, assuming the family had been flying. If linked to International airports, it would be the first reported H5N1 transmission linked to air travel.

The report leaves many questions unanswered, but two deaths will likely spur intense investigation and a combination of epidemiological and genetic investigations should provide answers.

The first questions simply focuses on disease onset dates. If all three family members developed symptoms at the same time, then a common source is likely. If disease onset dates were bimodal, the index case probably infected other family members. Since the index case is alive, but two family members have died, the initial reports sound like human-to-human transmission within the family.

Symptoms usually appear 2-4 days after exposure, so the dates would help determine if the infection originated in India, Hong Kong, or Indonesia. Since none of the three suspect areas have reported fatal human H5N1 cases recently, the potential for infection at airports cannot be excluded by the public data.

The epidemiological data can be supported by sequence data. Although there are no reported H5N1 cases in India, the Qinghai sequences include those from bar headed geese migrating from India. These sequences have the PB2 E627K polymorphism, which had not been previously reported and the sequences have an unusual constellation of genes with 3 related to Shantou sequences and 5 related to Hong Kong sequences. Prior sequences from Indonesia also contain sequences unique to Indonesia and Indonesia has a confirmed positive poultry worker, although symptoms were mild.

If the infections are linked to travel, then the number of actual cases is likely to be significantly higher than the reported number.

Transmission linked to international airports is a considerable concern.
 
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Kim99

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A flu nightmare
July 13, 2005

THE RISK of a global flu pandemic should have been, but wasn't, at the top of the Group of Eight's agenda in Scotland last week. The world is ill prepared for the millions of deaths and economic dislocation that could occur if a lethal strain of avian flu virus in southeastern Asia mutates into a strain that is easily transmitted from person to person.

Each winter, flu kills on average 36,000 Americans, most of them frail and elderly. The nightmare is that a new and much more dangerous flu strain could emerge, like the one that killed at least 50 million people worldwide in 1918-19. The victims in that pandemic were mostly young adults who had not been exposed to earlier outbreaks of similar flu strains and thus had no natural immunity. The avian flu type that scientists are now concerned about, H5N1, gives signs of being even deadlier than the 1918 virus.

To reduce the toll of a new pandemic, governments and international health organizations must improve surveillance methods so that, if a lethal flu virus emerges, it can be quickly identified and isolated, though the latter is difficult with a disease as contagious as flu. In 2003, the US government adopted several measures to strengthen the nation's capacity for dealing with a pandemic, including the awarding of contracts to vaccine makers to develop an investigational vaccine for a strain of the H5N1 virus.

But immunization is a far-from-perfect solution to pandemic flu because development of a vaccine can begin only when researchers have identified the exact strain of flu virus. Using traditional production methods, the preparation of flu vaccine doses can require as much as six months, an unacceptably long time when billions around the world are being exposed to a deadly virus.

Also, flu vaccine makers worldwide have the capacity to provide vaccine doses for fewer than 500 million people, according to Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. That capacity must be increased at the same time that governments subsidize efforts to develop faster methods of flu vaccine production.

Antiviral medications like Tamiflu can strengthen people's resistance to the virus before vaccines become available. The US government is creating a stockpile of Tamiflu, but Osterholm writes in Foreign Affairs magazine that orders that have been placed globally suffice for just 40 million people.

The outbreak of SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, in 2003, which killed fewer than 1,000 people but cost Asia $40 billion in economic losses, should have served as a warning of the devastating effect an infectious disease can have even when loss of life is relatively small. The response of world leaders has been inadequate to the challenge.

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http://today.reuters.com/news/newsA...TRIDST_0_INTERNATIONAL-BIRDFLU-VIETNAM-DC.XML

Vietnam bird flu toll hits 40, more infected
Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:30 PM ET
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HANOI (Reuters) - Bird flu has killed another Vietnamese and infected three more, taking the country's toll to 40 -- half of them killed since the H5N1 virus returned in December, state-run media said on Thursday.

The victim, who was not identified, had the H5 component of the virus and died in a Hanoi hospital last week, the Tien Phong (Vanguard) newspaper quoted a Health Ministry report as saying.

It said the report, delivered to a government meeting on Wednesday, said three of 18 patients in the isolation ward of Hanoi's National Institute for Clinical Research of Tropical Medicine were confirmed bird flu cases.

Thirteen others were suspected of being infected with the virus, while two had the human influenza.

Health Ministry officials said they could not immediately provide details of the latest victim nor the new infection cases.

Tien Phong quoted Trinh Quan Huan, director of the Preventive Medicine and HIV/AIDS Control Department, as saying there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission of the virus which has infected more than 60 people since it returned to Vietnam in December.

The virus, which arrived in Asia in late 2003, has also killed 12 Thais and four Cambodians.

While there has been no new outbreaks in poultry in recent weeks, the Vietnamese Health Ministry fears outbreaks could turn into an epidemic in the winter, when the virus seems to thrive best.



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Martin

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July 13, 2005

Ont. health official advises against hoarding drug

By TARA BRAUTIGAM

TORONTO (CP) - Canadians confronted with the threat of a global pandemic should refrain from stockpiling antiviral drugs to avoid depleting national supplies and hurting efforts to mitigate the impact of an influenza outbreak, Ontario's chief medical officer of health warned Wednesday.

Canadians are increasingly asking their doctors for backup doses of Tamiflu, also known as oseltamivir, a practice that Dr. Sheela Basrur is trying to discourage.

"Because there will be a manufacturers' shortage, it would be not a good thing for very limited supplies of those drugs to be hoarded in individual medicine cabinets and doctors' offices," Basrur said during a closing keynote speech at an international disaster management conference that drew more than 1,500 delegates.

Without an adequate supply of medication, federal and provincial government efforts to reduce anticipated deaths - estimated to range from 11,000 to 58,000 countrywide, with 3,000 to 20,000 of those in Ontario - could be jeopardized, she said.

"The people who are going to be most at risk of getting influenza and potentially dying from it aren't necessarily those people who are most able to buy the drug."

Dr. Carolyn Bennett, the federal minister responsible for public health, echoed Basrur's concerns.

"This worries me a great deal," Bennett said from Quebec City. "People don't really understand that it will be the nursing homes and the frail elderly and the people with the compromised immune systems that will need this. This is not for healthy Canadians to be keeping in their fridge until it's postdated."

Death estimates, murky figures at best, are based on an infection rate of 15 to 35 per cent of the population. The flu strain most Canadians are familiar with has a five to 20 per cent infection rate.

Canada currently has about 22.5 million pills of Tamiflu - enough to treat 2.5 million sick people, or about eight per cent of the population.

That stockpile is primarily intended for those most at risk, including people with heart and lung problems, weakened immune systems and senior citizens. Some will be set aside for front-line health-care workers to keep hospitals running.

Another problem with stockpiling is that the drug's effectiveness against the avian flu strain H5N1 - which has taken more than 50 lives in Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand since late 2003 - remains in question, Basrur said.

Global health officials fear H5N1 is a prime candidate for the next pandemic.

Confusing flu-like symptoms with signs of other illnesses could also prompt people to use antiviral pills unnecessarily, said Aggie Adamczyk, a spokeswoman with the federal Public Health Agency of Canada.

"Sometimes people may not know if they're getting a common cold or if they're getting the flu," she said.

A pandemic would likely sweep over Canada in cycles like a typical flu season, and therefore the need to maintain a ready supply of medication is even more crucial, Basrur said.

She also suggested that businesses allow staff to work from home in the event of a pandemic, a lesson learned from the SARS crisis of 2003.

"Planning for the next emergency is inevitably based on past experience, so it's a wee bit like driving forward by looking in the rearview mirror," Basrur said.

"It may get you where you want to go, you can certainly see where you've been, but you may not be able to predict the future at all."


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Kim99

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US and other nations brace for bird flu
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http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20050714-120730-9083r

U.S. and other nations brace for bird flu
By Steve Mitchell
UPI Medical Correspondent
Published July 14, 2005


WASHINGTON -- Three countries are planning simulation exercises to prepare for a global outbreak of a strain of bird flu that has killed 54 people in Asia, but as the world braces for a pandemic of the deadly disease, infectious-disease experts said the United States and other countries remain unprepared.

The flu strain, known as H5N1, has spread among poultry flocks in several Asian nations, including Vietnam, Thailand and China. Last week it was announced that for the first time the virus had been detected in wild migratory geese in China that could spread it to other regions of the globe.


"This is sort of like watching a train wreck in slow motion," said Dr. Greg Poland, professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., and a member of the Infectious Diseases Society of America's pandemic influenza task force.

"We keep seeing one little piece fall at a time," Poland told United Press International, referring to the discovery of the flu strain in migratory birds and the recent revelation that alleged inappropriate use of anti-viral medications in China may have resulted in strains of the virus that are resistant to those drugs.

"The only question now is how far will it spread and how quickly will it occur," Poland said. "Are we prepared? The answer has to be nobody is prepared, at least not yet."

The concern is the bird-flu virus will adapt to humans and spread around the globe, resulting in a pandemic that could exact a high death toll.

Initially, the human cases in Asia consisted of those who had close contact with poultry or healthcare workers caring for infected people, but now there has been at least one case of human-to-human transmission -- in Thailand last September -- and there may have been others.

The World Health Organization said the most recent evidence suggests the virus is becoming better adapted at spreading from person to person, and it continues to monitor closely for that possibility. The agency said the pandemic alert it issued more than a year ago, in January 2004, remains in effect.

"I think human cases are more widespread than we realize," Poland said, adding it is likely some infected people experience either no symptoms or only mild symptoms and thus have not been included in official rolls of the infected.

Officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta fear the disease could spread to the United States and said they are taking steps to prepare for that possibility.

"We're very concerned right now," agency spokesman Dave Daigle told UPI, noting that CDC authorities agree with other experts that it's not a matter of if the disease will threaten the United States, but when.

Daigle said CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding has made bird flu a top priority, and the agency has "several efforts ongoing" to prepare for it. This includes providing $5.5 million for surveillance for the disease in Asia.

Panama, Argentina and Australia separately announced Wednesday they planned to conduct exercises to simulate an outbreak of the disease to evaluate their capability to respond.

Panama's simulation is scheduled to begin July 26 in Penonome City. Argentina has planned its exercise for Aug. 7 and has invited representatives from several nearby countries to participate, including Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Peru and Uruguay.

Australia plans to hold its simulation Nov. 30 after conducting a number of workshops and other exercises in the coming months.

The bird-flu virus also continues to show signs of increasing virulence, Poland noted.

"Initially, chickens would get ill and it might take some days for them to die," he said. "Now they become ill in the morning and are dead by evening, so it's killing them faster."

There is no vaccine to protect humans against the flu strain, but the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., recently initiated clinical trials of an experimental vaccine researchers hope will prove effective.

Further confounding efforts to prepare for a pandemic, the virus appears to be immune to two anti-viral medications -- amantadine and rimantadine -- that could be used to treat infected humans.

In the meantime, the CDC is relying on a supply of another antiviral medication called Tamiflu (oseltamivir) that resides in the Strategic National Stockpile, Daigle said.

The Infectious Diseases Society of America said, however, there are not enough doses of the anti-virals in the stockpile.

"Right now, if Asia's bird flu or another strain turns into a pandemic, we'll be caught nearly empty-handed," Dr. Walter E. Stamm, the IDSA's president, said in a statement last month.

Stamm sent a letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt in June calling the 2.3 million treatment courses of anti-virals in the stockpile "totally inadequate and unlikely to provide any meaningful benefit to our population."

The IDSA estimates the nation will require 52 to 84 million courses of anti-virals to deal with a pandemic. Another 15 to 40 million would be needed for preventive treatment of healthcare workers and emergency responders.
 

BB

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Human to Human Transmission of H5N1 Bird Flu in Asia

Recombinomics Commentary
July 15, 2005

The victims, a 38-year-old man and his two girls, ages nine and one, would be the country's first human fatalities linked to the virus. They lived in a suburb of Jakarta and all died in the last week and a half, Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari said.

But Dr. Georg Petersen, a WHO representative, said that while the three Indonesian family members had no known contact with poultry, a more thorough investigation could turn up evidence to the contrary.

"In other countries, this is often the case," he said.



The comments above by yet another WHO representative misrepresenting the data on human-to-human transmission of H5N1 bird flu in Asia is unfortunate, but not unexpected. Today's Science has a figure showing that WHO places the flu pandemic at stage three, which was also stated last week in a Nature news story on the Qinghai sequences. Clearly, WHO is misrepresenting the stage of the current flu pandemic.

Stage four of the pandemic is represented by small dead end human-to human transmission. There have been over a dozen of such H5N1 clusters beginning in early 2004 in Vietnam. These clusters are characterized by a bimodal distribution, which is present in virtually every familial H5N1 cluster in Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia. This is true in the current cluster in Indonesia. Both the husband and one-year-old sister developed symptoms after the index case was hospitalized last month. The two secondary transmissions were hospitalized on July 7. This 5-10 day gap between the index case and subsequent infections in family members is the hall mark of familial human-to-human transmission of H5N1. It has been laboratory confirmed in Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia.

WHO disregards the fact that virtually all familial clusters have been bimodal and instead tries to find alternative explanations, which make little sense epidemiologically, but are fed to the media and even the top peer reviewed scientific journals. They then faithfully publish the data, misrepresenting the true stage of the 2005 flu pandemic.

One bimodal distribution within a family is highly suggestive of human-to-human transmission. Two such clusters move human-to-human transmission to near certainty. Over a dozen such familial clusters leave little doubt, yet WHO has told the media that the pandemic is at stage 3. The familial clusters are clear examples of limited human-to-human transmission, which is the definition of stage 4.

The expansion of these clusters has happened in northern Vietnam, signaling stage 5 and if reports out of Qinghai are accurate, then the stage has already moved to phase 6, the final stage.

The listing of the pandemic stage at 3 in today's Science is beyond scandalous. It is a clear misrepresentation of the facts. Such misrepresentations by WHO encourage countries to issue misleading information, as happened once again in Indonesia.

The latest misrepresentations extend the commission by omission statements throughout Asia, including the lack of 2005 OIE reports on H5N1 in China. Widespread 2005 H5N1 infections in China were demonstrated by sequence data from 2005 isolates in Fujian, Shantou, Hunan, and Yunnan provinces.

The human-to-human transmission in Indonesia now represents the fourth country with reported human-to-human transmission of H5N1. Vietnam and Thailand reported such clusters in 2004 Vietnam and Cambodia had familial human clusters in 2005. Third party reports indicate China had much larger clusters in 2005

The real question of stages is if the true level is 5 or 6.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07150503/H5N1_H2H_Asia.html
 

Onebyone

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Wonder how heat treatments or frequency treatment like Rife use to do would work to cure this flu?

I think it will take either a sudden big leap or a couple of years or three of normal progression before we have to worry in the USA about this overtaking us. There are many other things that can kill or make us sick in the mean time.
 
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