WAR Anybody here that remembers Dec 7, 1941, a day that shall live in infamy?

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
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Black organizations began a campaign to honor Miller with additional recognition. On April 4, the Pittsburgh Courier urged readers to write to members of the congressional Naval Affairs Committee in support of awarding the Medal of Honor to Miller.[22] The All-Southern Negro Youth Conference launched a signature campaign on April 17–19. On May 10, the National Negro Congress denounced Knox's recommendation against awarding Miller the Medal of Honor. On May 11, President Roosevelt approved the Navy Cross for Miller.[23]

On May 27, Miller was personally recognized by Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, Commander in Chief, Pacific Fleet, aboard the aircraft carrier Enterprise (CV-6) at anchor in Pearl Harbor.[3][24] Nimitz presented Miller with the Navy Cross, at the time the third-highest Navy award for gallantry during combat, after the Medal of Honor and the Navy Distinguished Service Medal; on August 7, 1942, Congress revised the order of precedence, placing the Navy Cross above the Distinguished Service Medal in precedence.

Nimitz said of Miller's commendation, "This marks the first time in this conflict that such high tribute has been made in the Pacific Fleet to a member of his race and I'm sure that the future will see others similarly honored for brave acts."[3][24]

Return to United States and the war

Miller advanced in rating to mess attendant first class on June 1, 1942.[1][16] On June 27, the Pittsburgh Courier called for him to be allowed to return home for a war bond tour along with white war heroes.[26] On July 25, the Pittsburgh Courier ran a photo of Miller with the caption "He Fought ... Keeps Mop" next to a photo of a white survivor of the Pearl Harbor attack receiving an officer's commission.[27] The photo caption stated that the Navy felt that Miller was "too important waiting tables in the Pacific" for him to return to the United States.

On November 23, Miller returned to Pearl Harbor and was ordered on a war bond tour while still attached to Indianapolis.[11] In December, and January 1943, he gave presentations in Oakland, California, in his hometown of Waco, in Dallas, and to the first graduating class of black sailors from Great Lakes Naval Training Station.[16] He was featured on the 1943 Navy recruiting poster "Above and beyond the call of duty", designed by David Stone Martin.[28]

In February 1943, "mess attendant" was changed to the "steward's mate" rate title by the Navy.[29] On May 15, Miller reported to Puget Sound Navy Yard at Bremerton, Washington assigned to the newly constructed escort carrier Liscome Bay (CVE-56).[1][3] He was advanced in rating to cook third class on June 1.[1] The ship had a crew of 960 men, and its primary functions were to serve as a convoy escort, to provide aircraft for close air support during amphibious landing operations, and to ferry aircraft to naval bases and fleet carriers at sea.[30] The Liscome Bay was the flagship for Carrier Division 24 which was under the command of Rear Admiral Henry M. Mullinnix. On October 22, Liscome Bay set sail for Pearl Harbor.[30]

Death
After training in Hawaii waters, Liscome Bay left Pearl Harbor on November 10, 1943, to join the Northern Task Force, Task Group 52.[30] Miller's carrier took part in the Battle of Makin (invasion of Makin by units of the Army's 165th Regimental Combat Team, 27th Infantry Division) which had begun on November 20.[31] On November 24, the day after Makin was captured by American soldiers and the eve of Thanksgiving that year (the cooks had broken out the frozen turkeys from Pearl Harbor),[30] the Liscome Bay was cruising near Butaritari (Makin Atoll's main island) when it was struck just before dawn in the stern by a torpedo from the Japanese submarine I-175 (which fired four torpedoes at Task Group 5312).[30][32] The carrier's own torpedoes and aircraft bombs, including 2,000-pounders, detonated a few moments later causing the ship to sink in 23 minutes.[30] There were 272 survivors from the crew of over 900,[33] but Miller was among the two-thirds of the crew listed as "presumed dead".[34] His parents were informed that he was missing in action on December 7, 1943.[11] Liscome Bay was the only ship lost in the Gilbert Islands operation.[30] Rear Admiral Mullinnix and the carrier's captain, Irving Wiltsie, also died aboard the Liscome Bay. Mullinnix was in command of Task Group 52.3 (Air Support Group of Northern Attack Force (Makin), Task Group 52) at the time.

A memorial service was held for Miller on April 30, 1944, at the Second Baptist Church in Waco, Texas, sponsored by the Victory Club.[11] On May 28, a granite marker was dedicated at Moore High School in Waco to honor him.[11] Miller was officially declared dead by the Navy on November 25, 1944, a year and a day after the loss of Liscome Bay.[3] One of his brothers also had served during World War II.

Military awards

Miller's decorations and awards:

Navy Cross citation

For distinguished devotion to duty, extraordinary courage and disregard for his own personal safety during the attack on the Fleet in Pearl Harbor, Territory of Hawaii, by Japanese forces on December 7, 1941. While at the side of his Captain on the bridge, Miller, despite enemy strafing and bombing and in the face of a serious fire, assisted in moving his Captain, who had been mortally wounded, to a place of greater safety, and later manned and operated a machine gun directed at enemy Japanese attacking aircraft until ordered to leave the bridge.[35]
Legacy

Commemorative plaque for Dorie Miller at the National Museum of the Pacific War

Dorie Miller memorial at the housing cooperative named for him in Corona, Queens

Doris Miller Auditorium in Austin, Texas

USS Miller (FF-1091), a Knox-class frigate commissioned in 1973, in honor of Miller
Memorials
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TammyinWI

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  • Although he is not identified by name, Miller is portrayed by Elven Havard in the 1970 film Tora! Tora! Tora![78]
  • In Michael Bay's 2001 film Pearl Harbor, Miller is portrayed by actor Cuba Gooding Jr.[79][80]
  • Miller being awarded the Navy Cross was depicted in the 2019 film Midway.
  • Season 5, Episode 10 of the science fiction television series The Expanse, set in the 24th century, shows an arrivals board at the Lovell City Terminal on Luna (the Moon) that shows the UNN Dorie Miller as “on time”.


 

willowlady

Veteran Member
I "remember" it in the manner of "living memory," i.e., my folks were young at the time and told us about it many times. I still have my dad's letters to my mom written from overseas and sometimes redacted. Even at that time, there were many who knew it was a possibility. My dad was in the Army-Air Corps at the time. My folks were married one week later.
 

Jaybird

Veteran Member
The memorial is on my bucket list. Took my family to see the U.S.S. Batfish at war memorial park in Muskogee Oklahoma three years ago. They had on display a radio mast off the U.S.S. Oklahoma that had been dredged up from Pearl. It’s amazing what relics like that can do to you. May god rest there souls.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
a similar feel to 11/22/63 and 9/11/01
Yes. For 63 I was in study hall and the superintendent made the announcement. For 01 I was called back to base from a missile run in time to see the second plane smack into the tower on live tv.

Regarding the subject at hand, I had relatives in WWII, they never spoke a word.
 

Old Greek

Veteran Member
To young (68) to remember it, but my dad joined up right after. Served the entire war in the Navy. Drove a Higgins boat on many of the invasion islands in the Pacific. Always said he was glad he was driving the boat and not going inland. He is gone now 20 years. My uncle, my mom's brother joined up right after also. Went Army - medic - was captured during the Battle of the bulge. Spent the rest of the war in a POW camp. Gone now also!


On a trip to visit my sisters about 25 years ago, who lived in Colorado, I and a friend who went with me stopped at a small restaurant in Salina Kansas. Saw a couple of older gentlemen at another table and one of them had a cap on which said USS Indianapolis CA-35. I walked over and asked if he was on the ship when it was sunk by a Jap sub, or did he just have the hat. He said he was on the ship!! I thanked him for his service and I started to cry, He also started to cry and was amazed that I knew the story about what had happened. We sat and talked for over 1/2 hour.

The greatest generation. Amazing what some went through!!
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
Yes. For 63 I was in study hall and the superintendent made the announcement. For 01 I was called back to base from a missile run in time to see the second plane smack into the tower on live tv.

Regarding the subject at hand, I had relatives in WWII, they never spoke a word.

I was Kindergarten in 63. My parents hid the JFK news from me as I was already going TB2K as a 4-Year old pre-school-news-intel style over The Cuban Missile Crisis the year before.

I was too young to have a deep sense of feeling on the JFK assassination. 9-11-01. I won’t taint this thread with my unusual experience in August & September that year.

All my WW-2 uncles, parents, are gone. But I recall many of my dad’s accountings in the Navy during the war as a young 20’s sailor.
 
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Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Warship Wednesday (on a Tuesday), Dec. 7, 2021: Of RADM Helm & PO1c Hirano | laststandonzombieisland

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Pearl Harbor

While her classmates were all tied up or moored, Helm was underway from berth X-7 for deperming buoys at West Loch some 30 minutes before the attack. Since deperming could affect the ship’s compasses, two whaleboats containing every magnetic compass and chronometer issued to the ship were left behind– not the best way to start a war.


Helm’s location during the attack, steaming at the bottom left past Hospital Point in the West Loch Channel. Via SW Maps
As detailed in her after-action report, Helm spotted the first enemy plane at 0759, with a bomb dropping and hitting a hanger at Ford Island. By 0805, her aft pair of water-cooled .50-caliber machine guns had opened up and soon her 5-inchers would join the fight.

Just five minutes later, at 0810, they drew blood.

From her report:

In main channel steaming toward entrance. Fire from port after machine gun, manned by HUFF, W.C., GM.2c, 337 00 90, hit plane approaching from south. Plane veered sharply, caught fire, and crashed behind trees near Hickam Field. Ordered all boilers lighted off.
More on this plane later.

Over the next hour, Helm had a very hectic time of it, spotting an unusual submarine conning tower at 0817 and again at 0819, then duly firing on said tower off Tripod Reef until it submerged. Shortly afterward, the men on after guns and amidships observed a torpedo pass close under the stern on a northwesterly course.

It is unknown which of the nine suspected Japanese midget subs this was, or if it was damaged. However, most scholars believe it was the Type A Kō-hyōteki-class midget HA. 19. Crewed by Ensign Kazuo Sakamaki and CWO Kiyoshi Inagaki, the hapless and damaged craft eventually was scuttled after which Inagaki drowned and Sakamaki was captured, the only Japanese POW from the Pearl Harbor attack.


Japanese Type A midget submarine HA.19 Beached on Oahu after it went aground following attempts to enter Pearl Harbor during the 7 December 1941 Japanese attack. The photograph was taken on or shortly after 8 December 1941. 80-G-17016

By 0830, Helm reached the harbor entrance and spent the next hour “Steaming on various courses and speeds off harbor entrance, steering by hand, firing intermittently at enemy planes, and searching for submarines, numerous large splashes being observed close at hand.” At 0915, a bomber from the Japanese second wave landed some near misses on the destroyer which popped seams and sheared rivets, so not only did she not have any magnetic nav gear, but she also had to contend with flooding and engineering casualties.

In all, she fired 90 rounds of 5-inch and 350 of .50 caliber during the attack

Once the smoke cleared, Helm was reunited with her two whaleboats and the seven men who manned them– they had withstood Japanese strafing runs and then later assisted in transporting casualties from Ford Island to the hospital landing. The destroyer had fired at numerous Japanese aircraft and is generally credited with downing the one seen smoking out at 0810. The plane, a Mitsubishi A6M2 Zero Model 21 fighter (c/n 5289), tail code AI-154, flown by PO1c Takeshi Hirano from the carrier Akagi, ultimately clipped coconut palm trees and crashed into the ordnance maintenance shop at Fort Kamehameha. It is one of the most photographed of the Japanese planes at Pearl Harbor.




Interior of the cockpit of a Zero which crashed into Building 52 at Fort Kamehameha, Oahu, during the 7 December 1941 raid on Pearl Harbor. The pilot, who was killed, was NAP1/c Takeshi Hirano. The plane’s tail code was AI-154. Note the U.S. manufactured Fairchild Radio Compass in the upper center (Compass Model RC-4, Serial # 484). It was tuned in on 760 KC. 80-G-22158

Listed as “Japanese aviator—identity unknown” Hirano was interred at Schofield Barracks Cemetery two days later as his Zero, partially stripped by souvenir hunters, was hauled off to the Hawaiian Air Depot hangar for inspection. AI-154 was shipped the next year to Wright Field in Ohio for more study and its final disposition is unclear, although pieces of it have popped up on eBay over the years.

After the war, 25 Japanese aviators and three submariners who had been interred around Pearl Harbor were repatriated home.
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mattbert

Veteran Member
Interesting articles, that you for the posts. I saw an interesting documentary some time ago on the role of the Japanese mini-subs. There is some pretty good evidence that a/some subs participated in the attack itself and were responsible for sinking of one or more ships.

mattbert
 

mattbert

Veteran Member
Btw, flew over Pearl Harbor on a flight from Oahu to Maui in the mid-90’s. I remember looking out the window and thinking to myself, ‘oh, there’s Pearl Harbor.’ It was a lot smaller than I thought it would be.

mattbert
 
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