GUNS/RLTD 64-34: Senate advances gun control

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
I received this in my email today ...

Last night, by a vote of 64-34 the U.S. Senate voted to advance a massive gun control package, mere minutes after the text was released.

And get this, 14 Republicans and all 50 Democrats voted for this gun control package that they didn’t even have time to read!

These are the 14 “Republicans”:
  • Roy Blunt R-MO
  • Richard Burr R-NC
  • Rob Portman R-OH
  • Todd Young R-IN
  • John Cornyn R-TX
  • Thom Tillis R-NC
  • Bill Cassidy R-LA
  • Susan Collins R-ME
  • Lindsey Graham R-SC
  • Mitt Romney R-UT
  • Lisa Murkowski R-AK
  • Shelly Moore Capito R-WV
  • Joni Ernst R-IA
  • Mitch McConnell R-KY
* Pat Toomey (R-PA) would have been the 15th if he had showed up.

Last night, NAGR staff worked late into the night doing something that these U.S. Senators didn’t bother to do.

We read the damn bill.
Here is what the bill includes based on our initial analysis:
  • $1.4 Billion for Red Flag Gun Confiscation
  • Virtual ban on 18-20 firearm purchases
  • Unseals juvenile records for ALL adults for purposes of banning gun sales
  • Potential senior citizen (Medicare/Medicaid) gun ban
It also includes a virtual gun ban on ALL adults with ANY juvenile record. Not just 18-20 year olds.

The politicians are trying to fast track this bill and get it off their plates before they jet off on a long 4th of July vacation Friday evening.

That’s right, they want to pass a bill infringing upon the Constitutional rights of Americans before they go celebrate Independence Day.

Apparently the irony is lost on these gun grabbers.

Help NAGR fight back.

Contact your Senators now.

Call Sen. Maria Cantwell at 202-224-3441 and Sen. Patty Murray at 202-224-2621 today.
Tell them to oppose the so-called “Stop Gun Criminals Act.”

After you’re done, please forward this message to your friends.
And please help fund the fight to defeat this gun control by donating to NAGR today.

Things are moving fast. Details are fluid. Lawmakers are threatening to put this bill on Biden’s desk before the weekend.
Don’t wait. Act now.

For Freedom,
Dudley Brown
President
National Association for Gun Rights


P.S. Last night the U.S. Senate voted to advance a massive gun control package they didn’t even bother to read.
This bill is expected to move fast through Congress and advance to President Biden’s desk before the weekend.
We must act fast.

Call Sen. Maria Cantwell at 202-224-3441 and Sen. Patty Murray at 202-224-2621 today.

Tell them to oppose the so-called “Stop Gun Criminals Act.”

And please make a personal investment in the fight to defeat gun control by donating to your National Association for Gun Rights today.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
I only see it working against law abiding citizens.
Feature, not bug. WE are the enemy and they want us disarmed, then democide will follow.
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What is Democide?
by Megan Stewart

Many of us may not be as informed as our grandparents when it comes to politics and war, but we are still not a stupid people. Freedom is still important to a great many people and there are still many people, especially preppers, who are not willing to just follow along with whatever plans the government cooks up next.

In earlier times it was easier to control a million people than physically to kill a million people. Today it is infinitely easier to kill a million people than to control a million people. — Zbigniew Brzezinski

Democide occurs when any unarmed individual or group of individuals is murdered by a government. There are several different types of democide, including genocide, mass murder, and politicide. Whatever side of the fence you might be on when it comes to government, the quote above points out the one thing that everyday citizens on both sides need to understand.

/snip/
 

CaryC

Veteran Member
P.S. Last night the U.S. Senate voted to advance a massive gun control package they didn’t even bother to read.
This bill is expected to move fast through Congress and advance to President Biden’s desk before the weekend.
We must act fast.
Act fast to do what exactly?

The senate was the only possibility as to stopping this bill, and now it's long gone. It will pass the House and Biden will sign it. How are they going to act fast?

Vote Republican?
 

oops

Veteran Member
Captio or however she spells it...is political royalty...same as manchin...both come from career politico families....doesn’t give two shitz about the people...just their own worthless azzez...n yeah...she po’d me...she’s got me learnin spellin from Satanta...LOL...oh lordydord...that just ain’t good...LOL
 

desertvet2

Veteran Member
Yeah those ar pistols are gonna be a nightmare when the ....... go on a rampage in the cities as it all collapses.

And then the locusts will descend on the country folk...
 
This is a violation of our constitutional rights, these senators need to be replaced
I received this in my email today ...

Last night, by a vote of 64-34 the U.S. Senate voted to advance a massive gun control package, mere minutes after the text was released.

And get this, 14 Republicans and all 50 Democrats voted for this gun control package that they didn’t even have time to read!

These are the 14 “Republicans”:
  • Roy Blunt R-MO
  • Richard Burr R-NC
  • Rob Portman R-OH
  • Todd Young R-IN
  • John Cornyn R-TX
  • Thom Tillis R-NC
  • Bill Cassidy R-LA
  • Susan Collins R-ME
  • Lindsey Graham R-SC
  • Mitt Romney R-UT
  • Lisa Murkowski R-AK
  • Shelly Moore Capito R-WV
  • Joni Ernst R-IA
  • Mitch McConnell R-KY
* Pat Toomey (R-PA) would have been the 15th if he had showed up.

Last night, NAGR staff worked late into the night doing something that these U.S. Senators didn’t bother to do.

We read the damn bill.
Here is what the bill includes based on our initial analysis:
  • $1.4 Billion for Red Flag Gun Confiscation
  • Virtual ban on 18-20 firearm purchases
  • Unseals juvenile records for ALL adults for purposes of banning gun sales
  • Potential senior citizen (Medicare/Medicaid) gun ban
It also includes a virtual gun ban on ALL adults with ANY juvenile record. Not just 18-20 year olds.

The politicians are trying to fast track this bill and get it off their plates before they jet off on a long 4th of July vacation Friday evening.

That’s right, they want to pass a bill infringing upon the Constitutional rights of Americans before they go celebrate Independence Day.

Apparently the irony is lost on these gun grabbers.

Help NAGR fight back.

Contact your Senators now.

Call Sen. Maria Cantwell at 202-224-3441 and Sen. Patty Murray at 202-224-2621 today.
Tell them to oppose the so-called “Stop Gun Criminals Act.”

After you’re done, please forward this message to your friends.
And please help fund the fight to defeat this gun control by donating to NAGR today.

Things are moving fast. Details are fluid. Lawmakers are threatening to put this bill on Biden’s desk before the weekend.
Don’t wait. Act now.

For Freedom,
Dudley Brown
President
National Association for Gun Rights


P.S. Last night the U.S. Senate voted to advance a massive gun control package they didn’t even bother to read.
This bill is expected to move fast through Congress and advance to President Biden’s desk before the weekend.
We must act fast.

Call Sen. Maria Cantwell at 202-224-3441 and Sen. Patty Murray at 202-224-2621 today.

Tell them to oppose the so-called “Stop Gun Criminals Act.”

And please make a personal investment in the fight to defeat gun control by donating to your National Association for Gun Rights today.
Diverse list, time for some real change at our representatives level of government,
 

SpokaneMan

Veteran Member
Yep, all the same losers that hate America. Hacker, you and I both know that contacting Patty Murray or Maria Cantwell of Washington State is futile. They don't care what we think. Hell, Patty Murray is only a glorified kindergarten teacher.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
No Republicans from AZ voted for it. Oh, I guess that is because our mail-in votes went to all Dems in 2020
 

heelgeneral

Senior Member
What does that mean about senior citizens? Have Medicare can't have a gun to protect yourself? The most vulnerable are to be sitting ducks? What am I missing?
It makes perfect sense when you look at it through their evil eyes. Just another way to make easy targets of the ones they want to get rid of the most.
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
Well, it's a piece of legislation. It can be fixed with a new Congress and President. As long as that asshole Mitch McConnell is booted out of leadership and some MAGAs step up. Until then we're SOL.
Not quite SOL just yet...Look up C.O.S. It's already been passed by a 'large' number of States and another goodly number are 'considering' passing it...or watch the last 5 minutes of Dave's 'X22 report down in 'Alt'.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I want to weigh in on the points in the OP, generically.

$1.4 Billion for Red Flag Gun Confiscation
If the red flag laws have habeas corpus as part of them, as well as the right to counsel, AS WELL as the ability to recover legal costs and damages from a malicious reporting party, I’m not overtly opposed.

Virtual ban on 18-20 firearm purchases
The only way I’d support this is if the military cannot conscript (should it ever resume conscription), under age 21. IIRC, various ages were dropped from the historical “age of majority” of 21 because 18-year-olds were being conscripted into the military, and it was unfair to disallow them those rights if they were dying for the country.

Unseals juvenile records for ALL adults for purposes of banning gun sales
I absolutely 100% support this, wholeheartedly.

Potential senior citizen (Medicare/Medicaid) gun ban
I’d need to know the particulars before I could support this.
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
""Unseals juvenile records for ALL adults for purposes of banning gun sales""

I am 74 years old and have lived a good, 'clean' life since... So why should I be banned from owning a gun because of something stupid I did when I was 15? You don't think 60 years is long enough to live down a stupid mistake?
 

Teeja

Peaceful Puppy
The problem with even theoretically supporting any of this so-called "common sense gun control" junk is that we're enabling them to use incrementalism to destroy our rights, little by little.

"Passing laws" does not stop criminals who violate them. The only thing that stops criminals is shear force.

I say not one more inch. Period. No compromise when it comes to my God-given rights.
 

Teeja

Peaceful Puppy
By the way, the same logic that promotes the idea that 18-20 year olds don't have the mental maturity to own firearms is the exact same logic that promotes the idea that older people on Medicare/Medicaid shouldn't own firearms.

Slippery slope, folks. We should not compromise away our rights for any reason whatsoever.
 

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
By the way, the same logic that promotes the idea that 18-20 year olds don't have the mental maturity to own firearms is the exact same logic that promotes the idea that older people on Medicare/Medicaid shouldn't own firearms.

Slippery slope, folks. We should not compromise away our rights for any reason whatsoever.
Of which the baby boomers all are right now, the largest group of people that oppose the liberals. So you don’t retire or pay your insurance out of pocket. The red flag laws will allow them to take your guns by abusing it across many fronts.
 
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