INSANITY L.A. city council to require all motel/hotel owners to report vacant rooms so homeless can be sent there!

Squib

Squib

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L.A. voters to decide if hotel rooms should go to homeless

The Los Angeles City Council on Friday voted to put a controversial hotel housing proposal on the November 2024 ballot. The measure proposes that L.A. motels and hotels take in homeless people and …
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The Los Angeles City Council on Friday voted to put a controversial hotel housing proposal on the November 2024 ballot.

The measure proposes that L.A. motels and hotels take in homeless people and provide rooms for them alongside paying guests.

The council voted unanimously in favor of putting the “Responsible Hotel Ordinance” on the ballot for voters.

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If it passes in 2024, the hotels will have to inform the city of the number of vacant rooms they have each day. The city would house individuals in the vacant rooms and pay for them with vouchers.

The program would not be voluntary, and managers could face lawsuits if they don’t comply.

Some critics say the proposal is dangerous because hotel and motel workers are not equipped to handle mental health and substance abuse problems.

Others say there are better solutions to the homelessness crisis in the city.
 
Melodi

Melodi

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Look for the Big Hotels to simply leave the city itself except for a few which will "always" be full (like the ones near the airport). They will sell out and concert to condos or parking lots, some will simply close their city branches and continue in the other Southern California Cities - this was a huge area with multiple cities when I was a child and it is much bigger now.

The small hotels and motels will either convert to being homeless hotels for the most part (and usually sold off by the owner first) or simply close and go out of business. If the owners can, they will cash out to any company or individual who pays them enough to move away from the area and either retire or start over if they can afford it.

A lot of the smaller places barely get by and many will not want to deal with this headache.

The result is going to be a lot fewer semi-safe places for people to stay when they have to go to the area either for business or personal reasons. Businesses may decide this is the last straw and move their companies elsewhere and big multinationals may move their locations outside of the LA City proper if for some reason they need to have a presence in the area.

Edited to add: It would probably be cheaper in so many ways for the City to simply offer to buy some of the older and privately owned hotels/motels in the area and set them up as homeless shelters for select groups of people like the elderly, physically handicapped or families/mothers with children and people who have jobs (some homeless people work one or two jobs but can't afford the areas rents). The larger group of seriously mentally ill and addicted people will just destroy the place, they probably need complete homeless camps (with weatherized tents or tiny houses) that are supervised and outside the city.
 
ioujc

ioujc

MARANTHA!! Even so, come LORD JESUS!!!
NOT TO MENTION, the issue of bedbugs, monkey pox, all the new and old diseases among people who have limited sanitary provisions.....the NOISE ISSUE if someone actually wants to SLEEP!

There are many new diseases coming out, as well as the OLD diseases which were SUPPOSEDLY eradicated years ago, like polio, which is reoccurring. Plus, whatever the DEMON-RATS whip up to destroy most of us......

The cost of dealing with the added sanitation, decontamination and delousing would run all the hotels into the red!
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
ioujc said:
NOT TO MENTION, the issue of bedbugs, monkey pox, all the new and old diseases among people who have limited sanitary provisions.....the NOISE ISSUE if someone actually wants to SLEEP!

There are many new diseases coming out, as well as the OLD diseases which were SUPPOSEDLY eradicated years ago, like polio, which is reoccurring. Plus, whatever the DEMON-RATS whip up to destroy most of us......

The cost of dealing with the added sanitation, decontamination and delousing would run all the hotels into the red!
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The Noise and the fact that if Business Women X knows her company has paid three thousand dollars for her stay at a nice place, she is going to let her employers know she feels unsafe if some unhinged jerk with mental health problems is standing at her door panhandling while she tries to put in the key and maybe even tries to follow her into her room. Ditto if there is a dump and trash in the hallway.

Like I said, not all homeless people are like that, but you just know an overworked City Employee with a quota to fill has no way of knowing if the person they are sending to the hotel is just a hard-working person sleeping in their car between shifts at their job or an addicted junkie who will do anything to get their next fix.

The City Employee is probably working a desk and would get a list of homeless every day and a list of hotels to call - they won't even see the individuals much less be able to vet them.

A lot of hotels live for their business trade and conventions of all sorts. And the Brotherhood of the Water Buffalo is not going to have a convention where homeless people are wandering around in the lobby and panhandling outside the bar.
 
CTFIREBATTCHIEF

CTFIREBATTCHIEF

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If Hilton, Marriot, Quality, Holiday Inn etc. had any balls, they'd tell the city that the moment this is passed, their properties in that city will close and either put up for sale or for condo conversions.

I guess being woke AND stupid in Commiefornia hasn't hurt enough yet...so time to REALLY make it hurt.
 
Melodi

Melodi

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Publius said:
I think the owner can set the price and many its $200 to $300 per day thats $9,000 a month times the number of dead beats they want to house at your expense.
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Just watch, if this hair-brained idea goes through the city will try to tell these large corporations exactly what they are GOING to be paid. This is another reason I said, they will simply sell off their holdings (and being multinationals they can do that a short-term loss if they need to) and relocate outside the City or even the County area.
 
Hawke

Hawke

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I wonder what will happen if the voters reject it. Here, a number of years ago, the voters in my area got to vote on whether a pork processing plant would be able to come to town. The voters rejected it outright. Not too long after that vote, the City Council and Chamber of Commerce announced that a "new" pork plant WAS coming to town, and the voters had no say in it. Of course, the people raised holy hell about it. What we, the voters, were told was "you voted against company X. This is company Y, and they ARE coming to town." Well, company Y was simply company X with a new name. So we got steamrolled and our votes ended up counting for precisely sh*t.
 
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mikeabn

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CTFIREBATTCHIEF said:
If Hilton, Marriot, Quality, Holiday Inn etc. had any balls, they'd tell the city that the moment this is passed, their properties in that city will close and either put up for sale or for condo conversions.

I guess being woke AND stupid in Commiefornia hasn't hurt enough yet...so time to REALLY make it hurt.
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And hotel employees just trying to do a good job will be destroyed. As always. One cannot help but wonder- could this just possibly be by design?
 
jward

jward

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Hmm. Not so sure that there will be the unanimous tidal wave of discontent rational self interest would suggest.

Given the corporate climate and the willingness, perhaps necessity, to go woke to stay in the good graces of those with whom the power currently resides, and how much $$ the Homeless Industrial Complex slush fund plays with, I’ll not be surprised to see the initiative meet with some mixed acceptance.
 
Dobbin

Dobbin

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Macgyver said:
So hotels will have no open rooms when asked.
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When asked why they're leaving what will they say?

Um. I think I know. It has to do with "return on equity." Vouchers for an extreme overhead client ain't return.

Dr. Zhivago comes to mind... (RT 1:57)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq__Z-Z_Ofs


"You've been listening to rumor mongers (disinformation) There is no typhus homeless in the city."

"It is more just..."

As in - compulsory support of a failed state.

Dobbin
 
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naegling62

naegling62

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Dennis Olson said:
Hotels now. YOUR HOME later.

You heard it here first. Think Overton Window.



And if you refuse, your “ESG” (social welfare) score will drop. If it goes low enough, you can’t buy food or have a place to live.
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My mother is 85 and mentioned that as a concern back when the Bolsheviks started all their stuff back in 2019-20(?). Tolerance of Bolsheviks is what got us here today. If society wants to play zero tolerance for Fascists, they need to do the same with Bolsheviks.
 
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Weft and Warp

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The hotels will definitely lose business-- but I believe some in CA are already taking in homeless!


Here's a real example of my own: Last year we were looking for a hotel (in California) after the end of a long day of driving and I was in the lobby of a hotel waiting for my turn to ask if they had any vacancies left... the man in front of me was a policeman and it turned out that he was "checking in" a homeless person for the night --- as soon as I heard was he was doing, I turned around and went back to my car. After talking things over with my DH, we decided to drive the rest of the way to our destination that night (another 6 hours).
 
colonel holman

colonel holman

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They did this in southern Maine where tourism abounds. These places close for winter. Last winter local ordinances led to several closed hotels being filled with refugees. Plan was to have refugees housed elsewhere when summer tourism returns. Guess what… refugees were allowed to remain in the rooms, shutting out paying tourists.
 
Griz3752

Griz3752

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Squib said:
ktla.com

L.A. voters to decide if hotel rooms should go to homeless

The Los Angeles City Council on Friday voted to put a controversial hotel housing proposal on the November 2024 ballot. The measure proposes that L.A. motels and hotels take in homeless people and …
ktla.com ktla.com

The Los Angeles City Council on Friday voted to put a controversial hotel housing proposal on the November 2024 ballot.

The measure proposes that L.A. motels and hotels take in homeless people and provide rooms for them alongside paying guests.

The council voted unanimously in favor of putting the “Responsible Hotel Ordinance” on the ballot for voters.

RELATED CONTENT
If it passes in 2024, the hotels will have to inform the city of the number of vacant rooms they have each day. The city would house individuals in the vacant rooms and pay for them with vouchers.

The program would not be voluntary, and managers could face lawsuits if they don’t comply.

Some critics say the proposal is dangerous because hotel and motel workers are not equipped to handle mental health and substance abuse problems.

Others say there are better solutions to the homelessness crisis in the city.
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Here, in alphabetical order, are a few 4* LA hotels:
  1. AC Hotel by Marriott Los Angeles South Bay
  2. Ayres Hotel Manhattan Beach/Hawthorne
  3. Beverly Hills Marriott
  4. Courtyard by Marriott Los Angeles LAX/Hawthorne
  5. DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Los Angeles Downtown
  6. Dream Hollywood
  7. Freehand Los Angeles
  8. H Hotel Los Angeles, Curio Collection by Hilton
  9. Hampton Inn Los Angeles/Santa Clarita
  10. Hilton Long Beach
  11. Hilton Long Beach
  12. Hilton Long Beach Hilton Long Beach
  13. Hilton Los Angeles Airport
  14. Hilton Los Angeles/Universal City
  15. Hilton Santa Monica Hotel & Suites
  16. Hilton Woodland Hills/Los Angeles
  17. Hilton Woodland Hills/Los Angeles
  18. Hotel Figueroa - The Unbound Collection by Hyatt
  19. Hotel Indigo Los Angeles Downtown, an IHG Hotel
  20. Hotel Maya - a DoubleTree by Hilton
  21. Hotel Maya - a DoubleTree by Hilton
  22. Hyatt Regency Long Beach
  23. InterContinental Los Angeles Downtown, an IHG Hotel
  24. JW Marriott Los Angeles L.A. LIVE
  25. Kimpton Everly Hotel
  26. Kimpton Hotel Wilshire
  27. Loews Hollywood Hotel
  28. Los Angeles Airport Marriott
  29. Luxe Sunset Boulevard Hotel
  30. Mondrian Los Angeles
  31. Mondrian Los Angeles
  32. Omni Los Angeles Hotel at California Plaza
  33. Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel
  34. Sheraton Grand Los Angeles
  35. Sofitel Los Angeles at Beverly Hills
  36. The Culver Hotel
  37. The Hollywood Roosevelt
  38. The Hoxton, Downtown LA
  39. The Wayfarer Downtown LA, Tapestry Collection by Hilton
  40. The Westin Bonaventure Hotel & Suites, Los Angeles
  41. The Westin Long Beach
  42. The Westin Los Angeles Airport
  43. The Westin Pasadena
  44. The Westin Pasadena
  45. Thompson Hollywood
Let me know when these facilities buy into this and, if so, at what cost per room/day..I'm in Memphis: I bet their response will be heard here. Or at least, register on the Richter.
 
PghPanther

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Dennis Olson said:
Hotels now. YOUR HOME later.

You heard it here first. Think Overton Window.



And if you refuse, your “ESG” (social welfare) score will drop. If it goes low enough, you can’t buy food or have a place to live.
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Nail on the head.......this is truth............the elite global-eco freaks hate single family homes, the middle class and the suburban life.
 
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Barry Natchitoches

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Squib said:
ktla.com

L.A. voters to decide if hotel rooms should go to homeless

The Los Angeles City Council on Friday voted to put a controversial hotel housing proposal on the November 2024 ballot. The measure proposes that L.A. motels and hotels take in homeless people and …
ktla.com ktla.com

The Los Angeles City Council on Friday voted to put a controversial hotel housing proposal on the November 2024 ballot.

The measure proposes that L.A. motels and hotels take in homeless people and provide rooms for them alongside paying guests.

The council voted unanimously in favor of putting the “Responsible Hotel Ordinance” on the ballot for voters.

RELATED CONTENT
If it passes in 2024, the hotels will have to inform the city of the number of vacant rooms they have each day. The city would house individuals in the vacant rooms and pay for them with vouchers.

The program would not be voluntary, and managers could face lawsuits if they don’t comply.

Some critics say the proposal is dangerous because hotel and motel workers are not equipped to handle mental health and substance abuse problems.

Others say there are better solutions to the homelessness crisis in the city.
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This is a good way to KILL tourisn completely in Los Angeles.

Do you really think any professional conference or even individual family on vacation will willingly spend their good money to check into any motel or hotel where the homeless will be in the room next door?
 
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