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BRKG Trump’s home being raided by the FBI (OP Aug 2022}
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Old Gray Mare
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Impeachment of Joe Biden would require the GOP in congress to do the job their constituents sent them there to do.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
They KNOW they won't find any dirt on Trump - they've been looking for 8 years and haven't found a scintilla. This is all about those PEADS. (Presidential Emergency Action Documents). They want those PEADS SO BADLY that they resorted to this! Those PEADS wil tell the DS what Trump has on them.
bassaholic
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He stopped mentioning it. Some people think it’s because he is catching on. But really he’s all for it. He’s one of them. Most people haven’t figured that out yet.
bassaholic
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This is all for show.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
Yes, Scavino DID tweet out the below a couple days ago.
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Buick Electra
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Paul Furber on Gab: 'Yep. I thought it would be something like this. N…'
Paul Furber on Gab: 'Yep. I thought it would be something like this. Note carefully what Cynthia is saying: the FBI are going to find incriminating documents in Trump's safe. That means he is going to be arrested because of that. When this all comes out, remember we were told ahead of time...
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
THIS is it.
This is CLASSIC BIDEN.
Just like he THREATENED AN ENTIRE COUNTRY when his son's future was at stake--
SO HE DOES NOW-----AGAIN----
using his Presidential power and the police-force of the FBI
to attack for doing illegal things those who attack / threaten his son....
WHO HAD BEEN DOING ILLEGAL THINGS.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
This is eerily similar to the way Jesus told His disciples he was going to die; except in more plan speak and Trump is only going to get indicted rather than.........well, they could take pot shots at him.
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greysage
On The Level
This is eerily similar to the way Jesus told His disciples he was going to die; except in more plan speak and Trump is only going to get indicted rather than.........well, they could take pot shots at him.
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It sets the emotional precedence for arresting his supporters. Especially depending on what they find in his safe.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
The MOST POWERFUL THING TRUMP MUST DO (AFTER ELECTION) IS CLOSE THE FEDERAL BOARD OF EDUCATION AND RETURN CONTROL OF EDUCATION TO THE STATES!
Barriers can work both ways...
Dobbin
Faithful Steed
And the hits keep coming.
EVERYTHING that the Progressives accused would happen under the Trump Administration - has now happened under a Progressive REGIME.
War
Economic Depression
Election Fraud
Debasement of the Currency
Targeting of citizens and weaponization of the agency of government.
Truth is - the Progressives have no respect for a former holder of the office of President, they have no respect for the honesty and sanctity of election, they have no respect for your worth and value, and THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOUR RIGHTS or the Constitution.
It's going to be a bumpy ride going forward from here. Watch for your axles and wiffletree.
Dobbin
EVERYTHING that the Progressives accused would happen under the Trump Administration - has now happened under a Progressive REGIME.
War
Economic Depression
Election Fraud
Debasement of the Currency
Targeting of citizens and weaponization of the agency of government.
Truth is - the Progressives have no respect for a former holder of the office of President, they have no respect for the honesty and sanctity of election, they have no respect for your worth and value, and THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOUR RIGHTS or the Constitution.
It's going to be a bumpy ride going forward from here. Watch for your axles and wiffletree.
Dobbin
ioujc
MARANTHA!! Even so, come LORD JESUS!!!
Ah, so just live as SLAVES then, right??This is eerily similar to the way Jesus told His disciples he was going to die; except in more plan speak and Trump is only going to get indicted rather than.........well, they could take pot shots at him.
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Old Gray Mare
TB Fanatic
So maybe they're really not as big and bad as they want the world to believe if a single senior citizen can strike such fear in them? Its kind of ridiculous if you think about it.
Trump's never ending persecution makes them look petty and ineffectual. It must be embarrassing for the dwindling few to hear the legacy media: "We've got him now! Trump's going down!" and it turns into their 9,437th nothing burger.
Sadly it's making the GOP in Congress look more ineffectual than the Dems... if that's even possible.
Trump's never ending persecution makes them look petty and ineffectual. It must be embarrassing for the dwindling few to hear the legacy media: "We've got him now! Trump's going down!" and it turns into their 9,437th nothing burger.
Sadly it's making the GOP in Congress look more ineffectual than the Dems... if that's even possible.
Cag3db1rd
Paranoid Pagan
Does it matter? We are all just going to wring our hands and complain. We must not do anything. They want us to do something. It's a trap. If they wamt to make us look bad, they will hire some more crisis actors and put MAGA hats on their heads, maybe AR-15s in their hands. Point at them and say, "See? This is why we need to take your guns."
It's because they are going to do chit they deserve to be shot for doing.
It's because they are going to do chit they deserve to be shot for doing.
Countrybumpkin
Veteran Member
I agree with one of the earlier posts-we can't go off half cocked like they want us to...
Zoner
Veteran Member
I'm pretty sure they are going to tell us they found documents that Trump illegally removed. Of course these documents were planted. Then they will arrest him. They think it's their only shot to win the mid-terms by making Trump and Republicans and their supporters as 'evil'.
pinkelsteinsmom
Veteran Member
One has to wonder, had DeSantis been the Pres in 2020, 3 months before o bidet was sworn in would we be were we are today?
Old Gray Mare
TB Fanatic
If this is their last hope, IMO they're projecting. Despite the experience of the last eight years they haven't figured out conservatives don't have the same reactions to triggering events as the left.
Samuel Adams
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Using Trump to whip conservatives into an very enthusiastic but positive results-less frenzy has been a genius ploy, thus far.
Now what are all of those who have been beating their chests and keyboards for months, and declaring that “when they go after Trump, I’m picking up my spear”…… gunna do…….
somewherepress
Has No Life - Lives on TB
No, 18 U.S.C. § 2071 Cannot Disqualify Trump From The Presidency
That statute disqualifies a person from "holding any office under the United States."
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No, 18 U.S.C. § 2071 Cannot Disqualify Trump From The Presidency
That statute disqualifies a person from "holding any office under the United States."
JOSH BLACKMAN | 8.8.2022 11:25 PM
According to reports, the FBI searched Mar-A-Lago as part of an investigation about the handling of classified documents. Will this be the action that finally stops Trump? Several progressive commentators gleefully pointed to 18 U.S.C. § 2071. It provides:
If Trump is convicted of violating this statute, can he be disqualified from the presidency? No. And my colleague Seth Barrett Tillman wrote about this precise issue in 2015. At the time, conservative commentators, including former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, argued that Hillary Clinton could be disqualified from the presidency due to the storage of classified materials on her private email server. Seth explained that Mukasey's argument does not work.
Under Powell v. McCormack and U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton, Congress and the states cannot "add to the express textual qualifications for House and Senate seats in Article I." And that reasoning, Seth concluded, would seem to apply to the qualifications for the presidency in Article II. Several courts in the Seventh Circuit, and elsewhere, reached that same conclusion.
On this blog, Mukasey later admitted that Tillman was correct, and he was wrong:
Tonight, Charlie Savage of the New York Times recounted this history in an article on the Trump search.
Once again, Tillman rebuts an argument that conservatives favored as a way to get Clinton, that liberals now favor as a way to get Trump. There is nothing new under the sun.
Back in 2015, Seth did not have to make the argument that the Presidency is not an "office under the United States" for purposes of Section 2071. But Seth and I did consider another statute, 18 U.S.C. § 2383, which also disqualifies a person from "holding any office under the United States." In an article published shortly after the inauguration, we addressed what happens if the Biden administration prosecutes and convicts Trump of insurrection. That article is suddenly relevant to our present moment.
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Pretty sure that a lot of people that have been looking at the third box sitting on the shelf and thinking now is not the time, have now taken it off the shelf and are seriously weighing if the time has now arrived.
somewherepress
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View: https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1366429018912817153
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Frontline Doctor: FBI ‘broke down my door’ in swat team raid of 20 men
Dr. Simone Gold related the nature of her arrest, how the distribution of experimental vaccines violates the Nuremburg Code, and why COVID-19 censorship is a ‘crime against humanity.’
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LOS ANGELES, California, February 23, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — In a recent interview with Michelle Malkin, Dr. Simone Gold, founder of American Frontline Doctors (AFLD) discussed the lack of authentic informed consent with regards to experimental vaccines, censorship as a “crime against humanity,” and how she was subjected to a massive swat team raid upon her home by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in order to arrest her for being present in the U.S. Capitol Building on January 6th.
In describing this incident, Gold said, “I was paid a visit by the FBI in a Roger Stone kind of take down moment, which is quite uncalled for. You know, if anybody wanted to get a hold of me, they could have picked up the phone and called. I’m very easy to find. But there were literally twenty guys with guns blazing, [and they] broke down my door,” Gold said.
“It was dramatic and what I want to say is that I weep for our country. If you can pull in a person like me … [and] have the FBI break down your door with 20 guns, shackle you [in] handcuffs [and] drag you off, I mean it was really terrible … I'm telling you America, this can happen to you.”
Dr. Gold’s reference was to former President Donald Trump’s ally Roger Stone, who as an unarmed 66-year-old, without a passport, under investigation for lying to Congress, was arrested in a 2019 predawn swat team raid at his home, with a CNN photographer conveniently present to obtain footage.
One GOP congressman at the time, called this an obvious “disproportionate show of force” and a “political act” meant to “terrify” Trump allies.
Similarly, in 2016 officials from the office of then California attorney general Kamala Harris raided the home of pro-life activist and journalist David Daleiden, who had captured undercover video evidence of Planned Parenthood’s harvesting and sale of aborted babies’ organs and tissue.
Daleiden’s attorney at the time, Matt Heffron, called this action “outrageously out of proportion for the type of crime alleged … a discredit to law enforcement, [and] an oppressive abuse of government power.”
Gold, appearing still dumbfounded by the magnitude of the incident, said “I'm very mainstream, I'm an American, I'm a mom, I'm a doctor and a lawyer for God's sake. I've spent my entire career helping people. I've worked in the inner city [with] impoverished people, really all of my career with black and brown people. I also don't say that too often because I'm not looking for any accolades, I'm just saying, that's literally who I am. And I got fired from my job because I was giving people medicine that they needed.”
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Gold, who has been on the forefront of challenging the government and media narrative regarding the actual dangers of COVID-19, its effective treatment, masks, lockdowns, and the current distribution of experimental vaccines, indicated—in what appears to be a modest understatement—that the excessive force inflicted upon her by the federal government’s principal law enforcement agency, “does feel a little bit like a persecution.”
‘Reclaim the language. These are experimental vaccines.’
In addressing many of these other critical topics in her interview, Gold began by emphasizing the importance of recognizing new COVID-19 vaccines as being experimental.
“First of all, it's so important that we reclaim the language. These are not vaccines. These are experimental vaccines,” she said. “This is exactly their status. They are investigational agents only” which will not be authorized as full vaccines until at least 2022.
“This is critical because I don't understand how physicians in good conscience are rushing head long into recommending an experimental anything for anybody,” Gold said.
Those who do receive the vaccine enroll themselves in a medical trial, which, “almost nobody chooses to do” under normal circumstances when they are provided with this necessary information. And given the clear, official “experimental” status of these injections, such a substance “cannot be mandated,” nor “given willy-nilly to millions or tens of millions of people while it's still in an experimental trial,” she said.
Due to fertility risks, ‘It’s lunacy’ for young females to receive experimental vaccine
Furthermore, safety concerns with regards to these experimental agents remain significant.
Malkin asked Gold about a December petition advanced by Dr. Michael Yeadon, who previously held Pfizer’s most senior research position in the field of allergy and respiratory medicines prior to his departure in 2011, to the European Medicines Agency (EMA), demanding the immediate suspension of all COVID-19 vaccine studies in Europe, due to four serious health risks.
One of the risks listed in the petition are the real dangers to women’s fertility. As Yeadon explained, these experimental vaccines are expected to produce anti-bodies to attack “spike proteins” such as COVID-19. However, “spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans.” Therefore, Yeadon and his colleagues demand that “[it] must be absolutely ruled out” that a coronavirus vaccine would not trigger an immune reaction against this protein, “as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.”
Government guidance in the U.K. itself urges various groups, including pregnant mothers, not to take the Pfizer experimental COVID vaccine, as well as stating that its impact on fertility is unknown. The World Health Organization issued a similar warning with regards to the Moderna experimental vaccine.
Gold responded by relating the tragic story of a young female physician who, as a strong advocate for the experimental COVID vaccines, completed the injections while in the second trimester of pregnancy and lost her child to miscarriage a few days later.
The AFLD founder explained how losing a pregnancy “in the second trimester is not very common,” and that the typical reason this happens is that “the placenta has some kind of failure.”
This can occur, she said, with pregnant mothers who become infected with COVID-19, as is documented in the AFLD’s white paper on the topic.
“The concern with the experimental COVID vaccine is that it may mimic kind of a permanent COVID status,” she explained. “So, you're taking a situation that would be time limited,” only for the short duration one endures an infection with the virus, with even the sad possibility of having a miscarriage due to the virus.
“But what would be much worse,” Gold said, would be a scenario where a woman “forever more cannot maintain a pregnancy” because of receiving an experimental COVID-19 vaccine. “So, instead of just the one-time episode of the illness,” Gold continued, a woman may find she instead has “a lifelong episode of infertility.”
Given that the survival rate for individuals under 50 years is 99.98% (without early treatment), Dr. Gold emphasized that “it's lunacy to get this experimental vaccine if you're a young female. It's that simple … I would flat out forbid any young female from getting this vaccine, and I think it's very unethical for any physician to offer this to a young female.”
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Frontline Doctor: FBI ‘broke down my door’ in swat team raid of 20 men
Dr. Simone Gold related the nature of her arrest, how the distribution of experimental vaccines violates the Nuremburg Code, and why COVID-19 censorship is a ‘crime against humanity.’
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LOS ANGELES, California, February 23, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — In a recent interview with Michelle Malkin, Dr. Simone Gold, founder of American Frontline Doctors (AFLD) discussed the lack of authentic informed consent with regards to experimental vaccines, censorship as a “crime against humanity,” and how she was subjected to a massive swat team raid upon her home by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in order to arrest her for being present in the U.S. Capitol Building on January 6th.
In describing this incident, Gold said, “I was paid a visit by the FBI in a Roger Stone kind of take down moment, which is quite uncalled for. You know, if anybody wanted to get a hold of me, they could have picked up the phone and called. I’m very easy to find. But there were literally twenty guys with guns blazing, [and they] broke down my door,” Gold said.
“It was dramatic and what I want to say is that I weep for our country. If you can pull in a person like me … [and] have the FBI break down your door with 20 guns, shackle you [in] handcuffs [and] drag you off, I mean it was really terrible … I'm telling you America, this can happen to you.”
Dr. Gold’s reference was to former President Donald Trump’s ally Roger Stone, who as an unarmed 66-year-old, without a passport, under investigation for lying to Congress, was arrested in a 2019 predawn swat team raid at his home, with a CNN photographer conveniently present to obtain footage.
One GOP congressman at the time, called this an obvious “disproportionate show of force” and a “political act” meant to “terrify” Trump allies.
Similarly, in 2016 officials from the office of then California attorney general Kamala Harris raided the home of pro-life activist and journalist David Daleiden, who had captured undercover video evidence of Planned Parenthood’s harvesting and sale of aborted babies’ organs and tissue.
Daleiden’s attorney at the time, Matt Heffron, called this action “outrageously out of proportion for the type of crime alleged … a discredit to law enforcement, [and] an oppressive abuse of government power.”
Gold, appearing still dumbfounded by the magnitude of the incident, said “I'm very mainstream, I'm an American, I'm a mom, I'm a doctor and a lawyer for God's sake. I've spent my entire career helping people. I've worked in the inner city [with] impoverished people, really all of my career with black and brown people. I also don't say that too often because I'm not looking for any accolades, I'm just saying, that's literally who I am. And I got fired from my job because I was giving people medicine that they needed.”
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Gold, who has been on the forefront of challenging the government and media narrative regarding the actual dangers of COVID-19, its effective treatment, masks, lockdowns, and the current distribution of experimental vaccines, indicated—in what appears to be a modest understatement—that the excessive force inflicted upon her by the federal government’s principal law enforcement agency, “does feel a little bit like a persecution.”
‘Reclaim the language. These are experimental vaccines.’
In addressing many of these other critical topics in her interview, Gold began by emphasizing the importance of recognizing new COVID-19 vaccines as being experimental.
“First of all, it's so important that we reclaim the language. These are not vaccines. These are experimental vaccines,” she said. “This is exactly their status. They are investigational agents only” which will not be authorized as full vaccines until at least 2022.
“This is critical because I don't understand how physicians in good conscience are rushing head long into recommending an experimental anything for anybody,” Gold said.
Those who do receive the vaccine enroll themselves in a medical trial, which, “almost nobody chooses to do” under normal circumstances when they are provided with this necessary information. And given the clear, official “experimental” status of these injections, such a substance “cannot be mandated,” nor “given willy-nilly to millions or tens of millions of people while it's still in an experimental trial,” she said.
Due to fertility risks, ‘It’s lunacy’ for young females to receive experimental vaccine
Furthermore, safety concerns with regards to these experimental agents remain significant.
Malkin asked Gold about a December petition advanced by Dr. Michael Yeadon, who previously held Pfizer’s most senior research position in the field of allergy and respiratory medicines prior to his departure in 2011, to the European Medicines Agency (EMA), demanding the immediate suspension of all COVID-19 vaccine studies in Europe, due to four serious health risks.
One of the risks listed in the petition are the real dangers to women’s fertility. As Yeadon explained, these experimental vaccines are expected to produce anti-bodies to attack “spike proteins” such as COVID-19. However, “spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans.” Therefore, Yeadon and his colleagues demand that “[it] must be absolutely ruled out” that a coronavirus vaccine would not trigger an immune reaction against this protein, “as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.”
Government guidance in the U.K. itself urges various groups, including pregnant mothers, not to take the Pfizer experimental COVID vaccine, as well as stating that its impact on fertility is unknown. The World Health Organization issued a similar warning with regards to the Moderna experimental vaccine.
Gold responded by relating the tragic story of a young female physician who, as a strong advocate for the experimental COVID vaccines, completed the injections while in the second trimester of pregnancy and lost her child to miscarriage a few days later.
The AFLD founder explained how losing a pregnancy “in the second trimester is not very common,” and that the typical reason this happens is that “the placenta has some kind of failure.”
This can occur, she said, with pregnant mothers who become infected with COVID-19, as is documented in the AFLD’s white paper on the topic.
“The concern with the experimental COVID vaccine is that it may mimic kind of a permanent COVID status,” she explained. “So, you're taking a situation that would be time limited,” only for the short duration one endures an infection with the virus, with even the sad possibility of having a miscarriage due to the virus.
“But what would be much worse,” Gold said, would be a scenario where a woman “forever more cannot maintain a pregnancy” because of receiving an experimental COVID-19 vaccine. “So, instead of just the one-time episode of the illness,” Gold continued, a woman may find she instead has “a lifelong episode of infertility.”
Given that the survival rate for individuals under 50 years is 99.98% (without early treatment), Dr. Gold emphasized that “it's lunacy to get this experimental vaccine if you're a young female. It's that simple … I would flat out forbid any young female from getting this vaccine, and I think it's very unethical for any physician to offer this to a young female.”
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Since there is only one party (with two faces), your statement has no meaning except for which group of actors you’re focused on
And some really need to stand up "to" your children and grandchildren.
somewherepress
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Dr. Simone Gold related the nature of her arrest, how the distribution of experimental vaccines violates the Nuremburg Code, and why COVID-19 censorship is a ‘crime against humanity.’
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Nuremburg Code of 1947: Informed Consent Lacking for experimental vaccine
Malkin also raised the question of the importance of informed consent in standard medical ethics as defined and universally adopted at Nuremburg in 1947.
The Nuremburg Code came about as a result of the post-World War II trials, convictions and executions of Nazi doctors who had conducted deadly experiments, without the subjects’ consent, on prisoners of war.
The Code’s first and most extensive principle provides the strict conditions for establishing voluntary consent, including that the individual may not be exposed to “any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion.” In addition, they must have “sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved.”
Referring back to the young pregnant physician who received the injections, and the importance of knowing they are experimental, Gold stated, “I don't even think she knows [the vaccine] was an experimental status only. I've had so many conversations with people that don't even realize it's investigational status, so how is that informed consent?” she asked. “They don't write it anywhere,” and one has to search diligently to find the paperwork confirming the investigational status.
“So that's the beginning and end of the discussion. This is not informed consent. You don't even know it's investigational. And very important investigational meds can never be coerced by federal law,” she affirmed.
‘Shocking’ Censorship a ‘crime against humanity,’ ‘breathtaking in its scope’
In a AFLD white paper, the physicians write how the “(m)ost notable” disinformation regarding the pandemic, “was selling the lie to the American and European people that hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) is an unsafe medication.”
As HCQ is “considered one of the safest medications in the world, safer than Motrin or Tylenol,” it has been broadly used outside the west with great success. For example, in response to the virus, India recommended HCQ for its population early last year, and “continues to enjoy a death rate a fraction (~10 percent) of the USA even in the most densely populated slums.”
Gold also pointed out elsewhere that in “Sub-Sahara Africa, the poorest places in the world, no social distancing, no mask, no ICU’s, they have a death rate of one percent the western nations. One percent!”
“Now I believe it is due to widely available HCQ. I don’t think you can explain it for any other reason,” she said.
With Malkin she affirmed that AFLD, a volunteer physicians’ organization, exists to “put out the truth that's been censored,” on these medical topics.
“I'm stunned at the degree of censorship and the rapidity of it” in these recent months, Gold said. “It's shocking to me that we can fool people into thinking a drug that's the most commonly used drug in India (HCQ) for decades … is unsafe.”
“Honestly, I don't expect it, but this really needs to be almost [treated] like a NAZI war crime tribunal,” she said. The censorship “has been such a crime against humanity. It's breathtaking in its scope.”
Gold was also sure to encourage people to have HCQ on hand, as “it works if you take it earlier prophylactically” or as early treatment. And since “it can be very difficult to get from your own doctor,” AFLD has made it available at their website.
How to identify propaganda: What was the data prior to the controversy?
Malkin followed-up asking how regular people can actually recognize what is true on these topics when they lack expertise.
Gold explained that she wrote a little book on that topic titled, I Do Not Consent: My Fight Against Medical Cancel Culture, in order to teach readers how to “recognize propaganda in real time.”
“There's ultimately only two sources of information,” she said, “if you actually know the content yourself, or you know somebody that you trust that you personally vetted.”
“Now a little trick that you can use … is [to ask] what did the science or the data say prior to the controversy? What did the data in scientific journals say about hydroxychloroquine prior to 2020? What did the data in the scientific journals say about masks prior to 2020?” Gold advised.
“One of the ways I recognized that we were living through a lie was not because I'm a physician,” she said. “It's because I said to my physician peers, ‘how could you say (HCQ) is not safe? It's been around for 65 years. It's been studied up the wazoo, it's been given billions of times in massive doses for years to old people and immune compromised people and to babies and to pregnant women. How can you say it's not safe?’”
Thus, when a person said to her that they had a safety concern, “I knew that that wasn't true because of all the evidence prior to the controversy,” she concluded.
Medical Journals involved in propaganda at the behest of Big Pharma
Gold said such propaganda can even come through highly credentialled medical journals, including the case of The Lancet which had to retract a published study whose stated findings proposed dangers to the use of HCQ as a treatment for COVID-19.
She also related a similar story regarding a JAMA study which she personally examined and characterized as “complete garbage,” to the extent that it had “almost like shaken me to my core” that such a piece of work could be published in a credible medical journal.
Getting to the bottom of the cause of this, Gold observed “when you look into it more deeply it turns out,” that “really the only advertisers” for such medical journals, “are pharmaceutical companies.”
Thus, these journals must “bow” to the desires of these big pharma corporations. She made reference to a video of the former health minister of France, Philippe Douste-Blazy, who revealed on a French news program that he was present at a meeting where the heads of at least two of the most prestigious medical journals in the world, The Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine, “admitted that they have to do what the pharmaceutical companies say.”
Don’t throw out your own common sense in favor of an expert
Gold further advised, “you should not throw out your own common sense in favor of an expert. That's not to say the expert may not be right. They may be right, but you should not automatically assume the expert is correct. You must find a source that you trust and believe. You must look for their motives.”
In the case of AMFD, she said, “we're volunteers” who are not paid by the government, or by pharmaceuticals, “we’re really not paid at all,” and thus she implicitly suggested this is one reason to consider her organization credible.
Call to action: Sign and spread the petition
In response to projected vaccine mandates, Dr. Gold announced, “we are working on an initiative now to push back on policymakers and decision makers that want to mandate these experimental vaccines.”
AFLD is not primarily concerned with the government, but with private businesses mandating these injections, particularly schools and airlines.
She encouraged everyone to “go to StopMedicalDiscrimination.org and please sign the petition,” as it will “empower us to go to policymakers—really on your behalf—and explain that the American people, or people worldwide, don't want” these experimental vaccine or mask mandates.
“I can guarantee you we will be negotiating or discussing with policy makers, businesses, and airlines.”
“So, everyone who is listening, you must sign this petition, and you must share it because the more people we can show don't want these [mandates], the better the business leaders will listen to us.”
155 arty
Veteran Member
I smell a raid of Trump's lawyers in 3 2 1
Talk about between a rock and a hard place. “Fight! No, don’t fight! That’s what they want! “
Ok so what’s to be done then?
Time for the Red States to announce they are done and form a border wall all the way down the middle of this country.
Texas has oil and cattle, Arkansas has duck, deer, and the 3rd largest producer of Rice. Kansas and Nebraska grow a lot of wheat and soy beans, Iowa corn, Missouri a mixture of crops and cattle and hay. Florida has citrus groves amongst other crops.
Sure they will threaten us with No Federal funds for roads and schools and blah blah. Anything they fund is corrupt anyway. Only issue would be roads. We will just have to deal with it.
If we can’t fight, then Balkanization it is!
Yes it would be hard…very hard. Life as we knew it is over anyway.
Ok so what’s to be done then?
Time for the Red States to announce they are done and form a border wall all the way down the middle of this country.
Texas has oil and cattle, Arkansas has duck, deer, and the 3rd largest producer of Rice. Kansas and Nebraska grow a lot of wheat and soy beans, Iowa corn, Missouri a mixture of crops and cattle and hay. Florida has citrus groves amongst other crops.
Sure they will threaten us with No Federal funds for roads and schools and blah blah. Anything they fund is corrupt anyway. Only issue would be roads. We will just have to deal with it.
If we can’t fight, then Balkanization it is!
Yes it would be hard…very hard. Life as we knew it is over anyway.
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Personally I was surprised this took so long.
I guess the Dems have convinced themselves they're making points with the populace and Trump is falling from favor with the GOP Base. Proof the Dim Dems are delusional at the top of the their heap.
DJT may not be everyone's cup of tea but he struck several chords with a long-ignored segment of voters and neither he or they are releasing their grip in the near term, if ever.
Trevor Noah was digging at the Biden Admin last night. He said something about with all yesterday's "wins" including the Mar-A-Lago warrant service, the Dems were counting on a surge in their approval rating "maybe as high as 29%!"
Between yesterday, Roe-Wade, JB's health/cognitive issues and economic missteps, Nov 2022 is shaping up to be a real interesting time in our lives.
ETA:
Anyone else think the Dems et al sort of resemble a pack of scavenging jackals swarming some big dog's kill?
I guess the Dems have convinced themselves they're making points with the populace and Trump is falling from favor with the GOP Base. Proof the Dim Dems are delusional at the top of the their heap.
DJT may not be everyone's cup of tea but he struck several chords with a long-ignored segment of voters and neither he or they are releasing their grip in the near term, if ever.
Trevor Noah was digging at the Biden Admin last night. He said something about with all yesterday's "wins" including the Mar-A-Lago warrant service, the Dems were counting on a surge in their approval rating "maybe as high as 29%!"
Between yesterday, Roe-Wade, JB's health/cognitive issues and economic missteps, Nov 2022 is shaping up to be a real interesting time in our lives.
ETA:
Anyone else think the Dems et al sort of resemble a pack of scavenging jackals swarming some big dog's kill?
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