ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

Doc1

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The Russians are actually playing nice. If they really wanted to end this quickly, they could do it in one day. Cruise missiles into all the power plants. No power for anything. No manufacturing, no lights, no refrigeration, no running water, no sewage treatment. It would be decimating. Ukrainians would all become refugees.

Exactly. Some of the Ukraine fans on the board don't seem to realize that - as wars go - Russia is handling this relatively gently. They could take out all of Ukraine's utilities and much of western Europe's gas supply in an hour if they were so inclined. I'm not exaggerating in the least. I think twenty or so - conventional, not nuclear - missiles could easily accomplish this. The Russians have targeting technology that's basically as good as NATO's.

The NATO states keep pushing Russia more and more with even more sanctions and I suspect that at some point the Russians will take the gloves off and show Ukraine and the West exactly who's the big boy on the block in that part of the world. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't done it already.

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rlm1966

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Exactly. Some of the Ukraine fans on the board don't seem to realize that - as wars go - Russia is handling this relatively gently. They could take out all of Ukraine's utilities and much of western Europe's gas supply in an hour if they were so inclined. I'm not exaggerating in the least. I think twenty or so - conventional, not nuclear - missiles could easily accomplish this. The Russians have targeting technology that's basically as good as NATO's.

The NATO states keep pushing Russia more and more with even more sanctions and I suspect that at some point the Russians will take the gloves off and show Ukraine and the West exactly who's the big boy on the block in that part of the world. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't done it already.

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Doc
I still believe they are working loosely with China and once China makes their move towards Taiwan and draws off some of the heat in Ukraine they can ratchet it up and have us bouncing around like idiots.
 

northern watch

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Czech Republic Has Exhausted Its Arms Reserves Supporting Ukraine, PM Reveals

BY TYLER DURDEN
ZERO HEDGE
SUNDAY, JUN 26, 2022 - 08:10 AM

By Remix News

Czechia has exhausted its stockpile of arms in helping Ukraine to defend itself following the invasion of Russian forces, Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala revealed on Thursday.


Czech Republic's Prime Minister Petr Fiala holds a speech at the Parliament in Prague, Czech Republic, Wednesday, June 15, 2022.


Following a meeting with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, who thanked the Czech government for both its military and humanitarian support for Ukraine, Fiala said Czechia’s resources will need to be topped up before it can provide any more help on the front line.

“Our stockpiles of Soviet-era weapon systems are dwindling and will need to be replenished,”
Fiala told reporters.
The Czech leader insisted the ongoing crisis unfolding in Ukraine will be a top priority during the upcoming Czech presidency of the EU, with Czechia intending to continue to support the Ukrainian army with weapons, as well as technical support and training.

In this context, he mentioned that Germany recently promised to donate Leopard 2A4 tanks to the Czech Republic as compensation for Czechia handing over its heavy weapons to Ukraine.

Fiala also said his government is determined to meet its NATO commitment and increase its defense spending to at least 2 percent of GDP by 2024.

After a brief meeting, Stoltenberg said that he also spoke with Fiala about the forthcoming NATO summit in Madrid, which will discuss whether the defense organization will soon expand by two new members, Finland and Sweden. Fiala said that the Czech Republic would support the membership of the Nordic countries.

Czech Republic Has Exhausted Its Arms Reserves Supporting Ukraine, PM Reveals | ZeroHedge
 

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Europe | Jolting back to life
NATO holds its most important summit in generations
The alliance is fortifying its eastern borders. But it is divided over how far to go in Ukraine

VORU, ESTONIA - MAY 25: Soldiers from Royal Welsh Battlegroup take part in maneuvers during NATO exercise Hedgehog on the Estonian-Latvian border on May 25, 2022 in Voru, Estonia. Fifteen thousand troops from fourteen countries are taking part in one of the largest ever military exercises to take place in the Baltics. Among them are British units from the Royal Tank Regiment and Royal Welsh Battlegroup. UK military presence has doubled in Estonia in response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. (Photo by Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images)

Jun 26th 2022
The Economist

When nato published its “strategic concept”—a sort of vision statement—in 2010, things were looking good. “Today the Euro-Atlantic area is at peace and the threat of a conventional attack against nato territory is low,” it declared. “We want to see a true strategic partnership between nato and Russia.” That hope now seems outlandish; Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has just entered its fifth month. On June 28th nato leaders will gather in Madrid to prepare the alliance for darker days ahead. “This summit will be a transformative summit,” says Jens Stoltenberg, nato’s secretary-general, in an interview with The Economist.

A new strategic concept, which will be approved in Madrid, is the clearest sign of changing priorities. It identifies Russia, unsurprisingly, as “the most immediate threat to our security”. There remain differences among allies over how far to go, though, and other parts of the text are still being negotiated. Those in the hawkish camp—Britain, Poland and other eastern European countries—are keen to underscore Russia’s pariah status. In contrast, during a visit to Kyiv on June 16th, Emmanuel Macron, France’s president, reiterated his warning that Europe would eventually have to engage with Russia again: “We, Europeans, we share a continent, and geography is stubborn: it turns out that at the end of it, Russia is still there.”

In Madrid the leaders will also sign off on big changes in the alliance’s military posture. Before 2014 nato’s eastern members had no foreign troops based on their soil. After Russia’s first invasion of Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea that year, nato deployed multinational battlegroups to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland, the countries where the threat was deemed to be most serious. Although these battalion-sized formations, 5,000 troops in all, are too small to halt a Russian invasion, the idea was that their involvement in a war would trigger a wider international response, including reinforcements from America, to push the invaders out.

Four further battlegroups are now being established in Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia, reflecting the growing threat further south, around Ukraine’s borders and near the Black Sea. But nato’s members also agree that they need to be more than a mere tripwire. “You don’t have 60 days to get your tanks to Estonia,” Ben Wallace, Britain’s defence secretary, told the Financial Times earlier this month, “because by that stage there will be no Estonia given what the Russians have done in Ukraine.” What is now taking shape is a strategy of forward defence, sometimes known as deterrence by denial: deploying sufficient firepower far enough east to stop Russian tanks breaking through in the first place.

To that end, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania want the battalions in their countries, most of which are slightly larger than 1,000 troops, to grow into brigades, which tend to have several thousand troops and a lot more firepower. They have also pressed for more munitions and heavy weaponry to be pre-positioned on their soil, and for nato to put a divisional headquarters in each country. Such headquarters bring with them heftier capabilities, including surveillance aircraft, longer-range rockets and air-defence systems. Britain, which leads the battlegroup in Estonia, and Germany, in charge of the one in Lithuania, favour the idea, though neither country is likely to place a full brigade’s worth of troops abroad; some will be kept at home at high readiness to deploy in a crisis.

“There is an understanding that perhaps not everything is achievable, at least not right away,” says Tomas Jermalavicius, a former Lithuanian defence official now at icds, a think-tank in Estonia. But he says it would be seen as a “major let-down” if nato does not agree to beef up air and missile defences in the Baltic region, where tensions have grown in recent days.
On June 21st an Estonian defence official said that Russian helicopters had violated the border for a second time in less than two weeks. Russia seems to be flexing its muscles amid a row with Lithuania about access to Kaliningrad, a Russian exclave sandwiched between Lithuania and Poland. The Lithuanian authorities, prompted by eu sanctions, have been restricting the passage of rail freight from the Russian mainland to the exclave, prompting Russia to threaten “consequences [with] a seriously negative impact on the population of Lithuania”. On June 25th Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, suggested in a meeting with Alexander Lukashenko, Belarus’ leader, that he might give Belarus nuclear-capable missiles and help its planes carry Russian nuclear weapons.

nato is also limbering up in other ways. Previously, countries offered a portion of their armed forces on rotation for a high-readiness nato Response Force of 40,000 or so troops, of whom a quarter were supposed to be deployable within eight days. Under a new “force model”, at least six times as many troops at high levels of readiness will be put at nato’s potential disposal.
Under normal circumstances, most of these will remain under national command, but nato’s Supreme Allied Commander Europe (saceur), an American general, will have a better sense of what resources he can muster quickly. If he wants warships to head to the Baltic Sea to send a message to Russia, for example, he will know which members have vessels at the ready. Perhaps most important, particular units will be earmarked for particular regions, giving nato members on the front line confidence that sufficient forces will show up in a crisis.

In some ways, all this adds up to a remarkable revival for nato—a far cry from the “brain death” which Emmanuel Macron, France’s president, diagnosed in an interview with this newspaper in 2019 amid Donald Trump’s alliance-baiting and Turkey’s invasion of Syria. Mr Stoltenberg boasts of an “unprecedented” increase in defence spending. Three days after Russia attacked Ukraine on February 24th, Germany promised to raise its defence spending to more than 2% of gdp, the nato target. Other countries that have already exceeded that level, such as Poland, are now headed for 3%. This is not a uniform trend—one Estonian official complains that more than half of nato members have not increased their defence budgets at all during the crisis—but, in aggregate, spending is certainly rising.

A new survey, the Munich Security Index, underscores how public opinion has lined up behind these positions. In the g7, a bloc which includes nato’s six biggest spenders, and which will meet in the Bavarian Alps immediately before the nato summit, more than half the people in each country believe that the West faces a new cold war with Russia. Indeed Italians today are more eager to confront Russia than the generally more hawkish Britons were in November, a sign of how drastically things have changed.

The common front has some notable gaps, though. On May 15th Finland and Sweden, abandoning the last vestiges of military neutrality, both put in bids to join nato. Many officials expected that the Madrid summit would be a celebratory occasion at which their membership would be approved. Instead Turkey continues to block both applications, demanding concessions from the two countries on their links to Kurdish separatists and—officials in Helsinki and Stockholm suspect—sweeteners from America. nato officials are seeking to resolve the dispute, so far to no avail.

Another sticking point is China. In recent years, the alliance has grappled with the ways in which China increasingly affects the security of Europe, both through its deepening partnership with Russia and its influence over such technology as 5g mobile networks. The strategic concept will nod to this, for the first time. The prime ministers of Australia, Japan and New Zealand and the president of South Korea will attend the Madrid summit as guests. To the surprise of many, Japan and South Korea have both imposed sanctions on Russia, partly in the expectation of European solidarity against China and other threats in Asia. Their attendance also reflects the intermingling of European and Asian security in areas that transcend geography: the strategic concept will discuss climate change, cyber-security and the militarisation of space, among other global challenges.

Yet some allies, France and Germany foremost among them, are wary of too hawkish a tone. On June 21st Jens Plötner, foreign policy advisor to Olaf Scholz, Germany’s chancellor, warned that lumping China and Russia together would be a “self-fulfilling prophecy” and a mistake: “I believe our goal must be to try to reduce systemic rivalry [with China] as far as possible.” Others argue that a tougher approach to China is vital to ensuring that nato remains relevant to a future American administration. The spectre of Mr Trump or a comparable populist returning to the White House in 2024 hangs over both the g7 and nato meetings. At the previous G7 meeting Mr Biden told his fellow leaders, “America is back”, prompting another to reply, “Yes, but for how long?”

Perhaps the biggest challenge of all is working out the alliance’s proper role in Ukraine, whose capital, Kyiv, was struck once more by Russian missiles in the early hours of June 26th nato’s members have, individually, provided Ukraine with the largest transfer of weapons to any country in such a short period since the second world war. The alliance’s commitment to mutual defence has protected them from Russian retaliation. But nato, as an organisation, has provided only non-lethal aid, like helmets and blankets. The curiosity is that the European Union, an ingénue in military matters, is currently providing more weapons to Ukraine than nato, the bedrock of collective defence in Europe.

Though all of its members agree that the alliance should not intervene directly in Ukraine, Britain and like-minded countries want nato to step up its support. Not only France and Germany but also, perhaps surprisingly, America, oppose this on the grounds that it would allow Russia to claim it was fighting nato, rather than just Ukraine, and would increase the risk of escalation.

Mr Stoltenberg says that the alliance will unveil a comprehensive assistance package in Madrid to help Ukraine “with the fundamental transition from Soviet-era equipment to nato equipment”. It will also help Ukraine move further towards a decentralised command structure, he says, rather than the top-down Soviet model it inherited, and which has hamstrung Russia’s army in recent months. That nato is committing to this path is in itself a blow to Mr Putin, who launched this war in part to halt and reverse Ukraine’s political and military integration with the West. But transforming Ukraine’s armed forces will be the work of years. That is scant consolation to the soldiers holding the line in the shell-pocked towns of Donbas in the coming weeks and months

NATO holds its most important summit in generations | The Economist
 
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northern watch

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Reverse measurement: Lithuanian veto on Kaliningrad's blockade lifting – Russian sources: Plan B is now on the table
Lithuania also closes the natural gas pipeline
26/06/2022 - 23:09
War News 24 / 7

Tensions are rising in the Baltic following Lithuania's announcement to veto the European Commission's decision to lift the blockade of Kaliningrad through the creation of a 'special corridor'.

The situation on the Russian-Belarusian border is now very tense. Already due to the Blockade of Lithuania a large number of Russian and not only trucks have gathered at the border. According to statistics provided by the Belarusian Border Commission, more than 2,000 trucks are waiting to leave for Lithuania with a final destination Kaliningrad.

In addition, there are reports that Lithuania intends to cut off gas supplies to the Russian enclave, putting even more pressure on Moscow.

This can happen through the blocking of the Minsk-Vilnius-Kaunas-Kaliningrad pipeline, which passes through the territory of Lithuania. The stop will be justified by EU sanctions.


Russian military sources commented on this: "Everything is in favor of Russia. Lithuania rebelled against the EU. Do not forget at the beginning of last month the Lithuanian parliament officially designated Russia as a terrorist country by unanimous vote.

In this context, the phrase of the representative of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, M.Zakharova, who spoke of a "practical response and not only diplomatic" in Lithuania, is also troubling.

Lithuanian veto on the lifting of kaliningrad blockade

Lithuanian MEP Petras Austrevicius said Lithuania intends to veto a European Commission decision that would end the suspension of land trade from his country to Kaliningrad.

At the same time, Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda announced that he had decided not to make concessions to Russia on the issue of crossing into the Kaliningrad region, stressing that Lithuania would act in accordance with its interests and those of the EU.

"Lithuania must maintain and will continue to maintain control of the goods transported through its territory, and no question of any 'corridor' can be raised," Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda said.

Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda stressed that his country in the Baltic "must" and "will" impose EU sanctions on Russian products amid harsh rhetoric from Moscow about the recent Vilnius restrictions affecting the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad.

"It is absolutely clear that Lithuania must implement and will implement the EU sanctions," Nauseda said via Facebook.

"Lithuania must maintain and will maintain control of the goods transported through its territory, and there can be no talk of 'corridors' as well as thoughts of downgrading Russia in response to the Kremlin's threats."

"The government must urgently start consultations with the European Commission so that the implementation of sanctions does not harm Lithuania's interests or international agreements,"
Nausheda said. "Only by acting together will we achieve that sanctions are painful for the country by attacking."

Lithuanian Prime Minister Ingrida Simonyte said it was"ironic to sound rhetorical about alleged violations of international treaties" by Russia, which she accused of violating "probably every international treaty".

Russia's foreign ministry said on June 21 that EU ambassador to Moscow Marcus Ederer was informed of the "unacceptableness of such actions" and warned that "retaliation would follow" if restrictions are not lifted immediately.

Russian analyst: Lithuania seeks military conflict between Russia and NATO

"The statement by the Lithuanian authorities on the prohibition of the passage of Russian cargo through the territory of their country to Kaliningrad could lead to a direct military conflict between the Russian Federation and NATO," Marat Bashirov stressed.

The European Commission is preparing a document allowing Russia to transport goods subject to sanctions in the Kaliningrad region through the territory of the European Union. However, Lithuania has announced its intention to veto this decision.

"No, it's not their decision, they were told and they say it. Now the preventive game has begun, timing has become a key factor for the survival of the West and our elites. We are in front of donbass and they have to catch up.

Now they have decided to surprise us with the Kaliningrad affair – they are setting up a blockade and provoking military action. And then there's China looking at Taiwan from the front eye.

Tic-tok, tic-tok. But I really hope that plan B is already on the table,"
Bashhirov stressed.

Peskov: Retaliation against Lithuania under discussion

The position that Russia is still discussing the measures - retaliation it will take against Lithuania for the blockade on the transport of goods and goods to the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad was expressed by the Kremlin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, who argued that Russia is considering a series of measures.

"The measures are being prepared. After carefully weighing everything, we will talk. We are not focusing on concrete measures, nor is there a deadline. Our main issue is to respond to these limitations. When we are ready, we will announce it," Peskov underlined, saying that it is a question of Russia responding to these unfriendly actions by Lithuania.

As he said, the blockade of Kaliningrad is contrary to the agreements that have been signed and sanctions cannot be applied

"The application of these sanctions to and from is contrary to the texts of the agreements," Peskov underlined.

Russian MFA: Practical and not only diplomatic response

"Russia's response to Lithuania to block the passage of goods and goods to Kaliningrad will not only be diplomatic but practical," said Maria Zakharova, a spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry.

"One of the key questions was whether the answer would be exclusively diplomatic. The answer is no. The answer will not be diplomatic, but practical," argued Zakharova, who, however, did not give details of what exactly she means by the "practical answer".

It is noted that Nikolai Patrushev, secretary of the Security Council of Russia, participated on Tuesday 21/6 in a meeting in Kaliningrad, claiming that Russia will respond to Lithuania's "hostile action".

"The consequences of these actions will have a serious negative impact on the population of Lithuania," Petrushev argued.

Reverse measurement: Lithuanian veto on kaliningrad blockade lifting - Russian sources: Plan II is now on the table - WarNews247
 

Housecarl

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Exactly. Some of the Ukraine fans on the board don't seem to realize that - as wars go - Russia is handling this relatively gently. They could take out all of Ukraine's utilities and much of western Europe's gas supply in an hour if they were so inclined. I'm not exaggerating in the least. I think twenty or so - conventional, not nuclear - missiles could easily accomplish this. The Russians have targeting technology that's basically as good as NATO's.

The NATO states keep pushing Russia more and more with even more sanctions and I suspect that at some point the Russians will take the gloves off and show Ukraine and the West exactly who's the big boy on the block in that part of the world. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't done it already.

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In large part they are being so "gentile" because they hope to be ruling all of it and the less they blow up is the less they have to replace. At the same time the moderation on Western European gas supply throttling is to get a pareto optimum outcome in terms of outward pressure and the results from it.

The Russians know that if they go to a certain point, particularly with in near real time video they will have a harder time and the same goes for creating the political atmosphere in Western Europe/EU where they won't want to work with them post conflict for more than one or two EU election cycles.

There's a lot of gambling going on in both the Kremlin and the halls of western governments. The Putin regime can't count on the mushiness of the West's governments to continue for too much longer. At best despite the aid and "backing" from the US, Russia has maybe 26 months (provided they can keep a lid upon anything really grievous, though that's been coming out in dips and drabs since the Russians withdrew north of Kyiv and the mass graves and bodies were found) to do what it wants before a new Administration and Congress together are sworn in at which point there is a good likelihood of having to deal with a more competent competitor at the helm than what's there now.
 

Walrus

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Walrus

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The Russians are actually playing nice. If they really wanted to end this quickly, they could do it in one day. Cruise missiles into all the power plants. No power for anything. No manufacturing, no lights, no refrigeration, no running water, no sewage treatment. It would be decimating. Ukrainians would all become refugees.
Artificially Intelli and Doc1, something people fail to take into account as well are the very large lakes with dams that generate tremendous amounts of hydroelectric power. If the Russians really wanted to terrorize the locals and devastate the countryside with no regard for minimizing infrastructure damage or future reconstruction, take out those dams with Kalibr cruise missiles and let the downstream cities along the Dnieper River just be washed away from Kiev to Kremenchuk to Dnipro to Zaporizhzhya all the way to Kherson to the Black Sea.
 

Red Baron

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In the chaos of the Ukrainian information war, we've seen all sorts of outlandish (and some credible) claims surface regarding the war and its progress.

For weeks, the most requested topic from my Patrons and coming in by email to look at some of those claims, ranging from the wacky to the reasonable, and to cast a critical eye on the way the war has been covered in its first four months.

At their request, I'm going to have a look at some of the various claims that have come up, and put forward comments on some of the most pervasive ones (especially those that were nominated multiple times). Because I'm trying to cover a lot of ground, don't expect the same level of deep-dive detail as normal, but hopefully we can have some fun with it.


Runtime 1:03:36

Myths & Claims of the Russia-Ukraine War - Claims, Feints, and Bioweapons

View: https://youtu.be/6x0O_oObJBU


Timestamps:
00:00:00 -- Mythbusting the Russia-Ukraine War
00:00:35 -- What Am I Covering
00:02:34 -- Sponsor Segment - GROUND NEWS
00:03:55 -- The Crazy & Conspiracies
00:04:06 -- The Crazy & Conspiracies: The Biolabs
00:05:43 -- The Crazy & Conspiracies: The Biolabs - The "evidence"
00:08:19 -- The Crazy & Conspiracies: The Biolabs - The Genius plan
00:10:23 -- The Crazy & Conspiracies: Nato Special Forces in Ukraine
00:12:09 -- Economics: German Aid
00:14:30 -- Economics: all of the Ukrainian economy is in the Donbass
00:18:10 -- Battlefield matters
00:18:16 -- Battlefield matters: "Cannon fodder" and casualties
00:21:40 -- Battlefield matters: Aces and super heroes
00:23:48 -- Battlefield matters: Media Coverage
00:23:58 -- Battlefield matters: "Game changers"
00:27:19 -- Battlefield matters: Every day is change?
00:28:52 -- All according to plan?
00:29:29 -- All according to plan - Russian war aims
00:30:32 -- All according to plan - Assessing the goal
00:31:54 -- All according to plan - Kyiv was a feint?
00:33:44 -- All according to plan - The Donbass is a feint?
00:34:35 -- All according to plan - The war is a feint?
00:39:33 -- All according to plan - A Bad Plan
00:42:05 -- All according to plan - Is the war going according to plan
00:47:13 -- All according to plan - Just look at the map
00:50:40 -- All according to plan - The Narrative
00:54:12 -- What Am I Saying?
00:56:55 -- Expectations
00:59:16 -- Conclusion
01:00:41 -- Channel update
 

seraphima

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Seems to me that one of the purposes of this war is to use up a lot of outdated military equipment. Ukraine is being donated lots of old Soviet-era stuff, which the Russkies obviously know all the abilities of. Ukraine in future will be expected to be grateful for the Russkie stuff, as well as the US and NATO-made armaments. every country that donates their stuff will need to buy new stuff, or make deals to get it for 'free'.
So who wins? Armament dealers and those with access to governmental purchasing funds.
Who loses? Ukraine, for one, and its poor people who are getting caught in the meatgrinder. Lord, have mercy!
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
In the chaos of the Ukrainian information war, we've seen all sorts of outlandish (and some credible) claims surface regarding the war and its progress.

For weeks, the most requested topic from my Patrons and coming in by email to look at some of those claims, ranging from the wacky to the reasonable, and to cast a critical eye on the way the war has been covered in its first four months.

At their request, I'm going to have a look at some of the various claims that have come up, and put forward comments on some of the most pervasive ones (especially those that were nominated multiple times). Because I'm trying to cover a lot of ground, don't expect the same level of deep-dive detail as normal, but hopefully we can have some fun with it.


Runtime 1:03:36

Myths & Claims of the Russia-Ukraine War - Claims, Feints, and Bioweapons

View: https://youtu.be/6x0O_oObJBU



Timestamps:
00:00:00 -- Mythbusting the Russia-Ukraine War
00:00:35 -- What Am I Covering
00:02:34 -- Sponsor Segment - GROUND NEWS
00:03:55 -- The Crazy & Conspiracies
00:04:06 -- The Crazy & Conspiracies: The Biolabs
00:05:43 -- The Crazy & Conspiracies: The Biolabs - The "evidence"
00:08:19 -- The Crazy & Conspiracies: The Biolabs - The Genius plan
00:10:23 -- The Crazy & Conspiracies: Nato Special Forces in Ukraine
00:12:09 -- Economics: German Aid
00:14:30 -- Economics: all of the Ukrainian economy is in the Donbass
00:18:10 -- Battlefield matters
00:18:16 -- Battlefield matters: "Cannon fodder" and casualties
00:21:40 -- Battlefield matters: Aces and super heroes
00:23:48 -- Battlefield matters: Media Coverage
00:23:58 -- Battlefield matters: "Game changers"
00:27:19 -- Battlefield matters: Every day is change?
00:28:52 -- All according to plan?
00:29:29 -- All according to plan - Russian war aims
00:30:32 -- All according to plan - Assessing the goal
00:31:54 -- All according to plan - Kyiv was a feint?
00:33:44 -- All according to plan - The Donbass is a feint?
00:34:35 -- All according to plan - The war is a feint?
00:39:33 -- All according to plan - A Bad Plan
00:42:05 -- All according to plan - Is the war going according to plan
00:47:13 -- All according to plan - Just look at the map
00:50:40 -- All according to plan - The Narrative
00:54:12 -- What Am I Saying?
00:56:55 -- Expectations
00:59:16 -- Conclusion
01:00:41 -- Channel update

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Artificially Intelli and Doc1, something people fail to take into account as well are the very large lakes with dams that generate tremendous amounts of hydroelectric power. If the Russians really wanted to terrorize the locals and devastate the countryside with no regard for minimizing infrastructure damage or future reconstruction, take out those dams with Kalibr cruise missiles and let the downstream cities along the Dnieper River just be washed away from Kiev to Kremenchuk to Dnipro to Zaporizhzhya all the way to Kherson to the Black Sea.
Good Lord.
 

jward

passin' thru
Hmm, today Canada's involvement, yesterday bleating about the US being there..., if you didn't know better you might think someone decided to do a lil bear pokin' on purpose eh?

Canadian special forces operating in Ukraine, New York Times reports
The Department of National Defence and\ the office of Defence Minister Anita Anand did not comment on the report.

Author of the article:
David Pugliese • Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date:
Jun 25, 2022 • 10 hours ago • 3 minute read

Canadian special forces are in Ukraine as part of a NATO network to provide weapons, training and gather intelligence about the Russians, the New York Times is reporting.
Commando Network Coordinates Flow of Weapons in Ukraine, Officials Say
A secretive operation involving U.S. Special Operations forces hints at the scale of the effort to assist Ukraine’s still outgunned military.
June 25, 2022Updated 2:50 p.m. ET

 

jward

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Housecarl

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Andrey Gurulyov, State Duma deputy, former deputy commander of Russia's southern military district, discussed how to best attack the West, while also purging internal opposition & hunting them down abroad. Fellow propagandist warned I would use those quotes, but he kept talking.
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Well it's good to see that someone there has the sense to "temper" their comments....
 

jward

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..be glad he's not responded- YET- but don't count on that self control to last forever; if they (we) show ourselves determined to insist on engagement he'd be foolish to wait for us to "throw the first punch"
And Russia still will not retaliate against the US. Putin will throw around threats but he holds back. I just can’t figure him out.
 
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“We greet you, the Lithuanian Government. Now you need to listen to our appeals, because you have no chance to confront us. But you have 48 hours to unblock transit to Kaliningrad. If this does not happen…​
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von Koehler

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Forcing the Deutsche Volk out of Prussia turned out to be a terrible choice.

The British air force bombed the civilians attempting to flee.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Update: NYT: Special forces from five NATO countries are working in Ukraine, according to the New York Times. The secret network includes representatives from Britain, France, Canada and Lithuania In addition to them, there are employees of the US CIA in the country.



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Obviously NATO leaked this to the NYT on purpose.
 
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Doomer Doug

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Putin responded by conquering all of the eastern ukraine. Putin responded by watching western sanctions make him richer.

Sheesh, biden comes trotting in all drooling and brain dead for this meeting and putin hands him the military collapse of the ukraine. So give ukraine more long range artillery to celebrate their miltary defeat.

The deep state is proving again what several centuries of inbreeding looks like.
 

phloydius

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Russia says that NATO is increasing the high readiness forces (the NRF) from 40k to 300k.

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NATO will drastically boost the number of its rapid-response combat forces, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on Monday.

“We will transform the NATO response force and increase the number of our high readiness forces to well over 300,000,” Stoltenberg told reporters ahead of the bloc’s summit in Madrid, Spain later this week.

The NATO Response Force (NRF) currently has around 40,000 personnel.

Stoltenberg said the allies will strengthen their air defenses and increase stockpiles of military supplies.

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mecoastie

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Putin responded by conquering all of the eastern ukraine. Putin responded by watching western sanctions make him richer.

Sheesh, biden comes trotting in all drooling and brain dead for this meeting and putin hands him the military collapse of the ukraine. So give ukraine more long range artillery to celebrate their miltary defeat.

The deep state is proving again what several centuries of inbreeding looks like.
Has he conquered all of the eastern Ukraine? I thought Ukraine still controls a good chunk of Donetsk and even a bit of Luhansk.
 

db cooper

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The Russians are actually playing nice. If they really wanted to end this quickly, they could do it in one day. Cruise missiles into all the power plants. No power for anything. No manufacturing, no lights, no refrigeration, no running water, no sewage treatment. It would be decimating. Ukrainians would all become refugees.
Yes, yes and yes. I must agree. And add to that blowing all damns flooding whatever is downstream.
 
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