MNKYPOX Monkeypox - Consolidated Thread.

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB

Does this number also include those who have had the disease and recoverd, or is it the total number of those who are infected now? It makes a difference. The reason I ask is that on MS's COVID website, it always lists the total number of those who have been infected along with the number who are at present infected. It's updated daily. IOW, do we know how many of that 3078 total have already recovered?
 
Last edited:

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Does this number also include those who have had the disease and recoverd, or is it the total number of those who are infected now? It makes a difference. The reason I ask is that on MS's COVID website, it always lists the total number of those who have been infected along with the number who are at present infected. It's updated daily. IOW, do we know how many of that 3078 total have already recovered?
  1. In its latest update, WHO stated it has received reports of a total of 2,821 confirmed and suspected cases of monkeypox from both “non-endemic" and “endemic” countries. As of June 8, WHO reported 1,285 monkeypox cases among 28 “non-endemic” countries. The number covers the period from May 13 to June 8, 2022.
    Monkeypox: 72 deaths reported, with 2,821 cases confirmed, susp…
    gulfnews.com/world/monkeypox-72-deaths-reported-with-2821-cases-confirmed-suspected-so-far-this-2022-1.1655111341580
    gulfnews.com/world/monkeypox-72-deaths-reported-with-2821-cases-confirme…
 

Ordinary Girl

Veteran Member
  1. In its latest update, WHO stated it has received reports of a total of 2,821 confirmed and suspected cases of monkeypox from both “non-endemic" and “endemic” countries. As of June 8, WHO reported 1,285 monkeypox cases among 28 “non-endemic” countries. The number covers the period from May 13 to June 8, 2022.
    Monkeypox: 72 deaths reported, with 2,821 cases confirmed, susp…
    View attachment 345953
    gulfnews.com/world/monkeypox-72-deaths-reported-with-2821-cases-confirme…
I thought there were no deaths at this point??
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
There have since been sporadic cases reported across 10 African countries, including Nigeria, which in 2017 experienced the largest documented outbreak, with 172 suspected and 61 confirmed cases. Three-quarters were among males aged 21 to 40 years old.

Cases outside of Africa have historically been less common, and typically linked to international travel or imported animals. Previous cases have been reported in Israel, the U.K., Singapore and the U.S., which, in 2003, reported 81 cases linked to prairie dogs infected by imported animals.

What is Monkeypox and how dangerous is it? Cases are rising globally (cnbc.com)
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Yeah, I'm giving this another 2 -3 weeks to see how it's going to go. Right now, though, I don't think it's going to become an epidemic, even though, the numbers may continue to rise in increments on a "worldwide" scale, before they begin to go back down. I could be totally wrong, but I hope I'm not.

Just too soon to say, but not too early to be paying attention. At this late date, I'm guessing the WHO meeting Thursday will be a nothingburger.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
  1. In its latest update, WHO stated it has received reports of a total of 2,821 confirmed and suspected cases of monkeypox from both “non-endemic" and “endemic” countries. As of June 8, WHO reported 1,285 monkeypox cases among 28 “non-endemic” countries. The number covers the period from May 13 to June 8, 2022.
    Monkeypox: 72 deaths reported, with 2,821 cases confirmed, susp…
    View attachment 345953
    gulfnews.com/world/monkeypox-72-deaths-reported-with-2821-cases-confirme…

Even adjusting to today's totals, it doesn't say how many of those cases have recovered already. We don't have over 3 thousand infected at this moment.

I also notice that the total number is from both endemic and nonendemic countries combined, unless WHO is lying.
 

phloydius

Veteran Member
Does this number also include those who have had the disease and recoverd, or is it the total number of those who are infected now? It makes a difference. The reason I ask is that on MS's COVID website, it always lists the total number of those who have been infected along with the number who are at present infected. It's updated daily.

You are very correct that it does make a difference. A big difference. We agree on that.

The number I'm quoting is from the site below, which as far as I can tell is the total cumulative cases (which includes any that would have recovered). The site does not definitively specify, but since it does not have a "recovered" category it may be a mostly safe assumption.


I'm currently watching the total cumulative cases, and not the currently infected cases. Here is why: There does not seem to be any clarity (yet) in the reported numbers on if a person is infected or recovered.

When Covid was in the early phases it had the same issue. When a person was counted as "infected" with Covid, in most cases they were not monitored / followed and then reported when that same person tested negative & was considered "recovered". Instead, it was done with an algorithm that said we expect a certain number of people will recovered within a certain number of days of having the positive test, and then automatically removed as a "currently" infected person with no correlation to if they were actually recovered or still sick. Which on a macro scale, makes sense, and the more people that are infected (in the millions) the more accurate the algorithm would be (unless it was manipulated).

I have not been able to find how they identify when a person is recovered from Monkeypox (meaning in the data that is being reported, not meaning medically). So my assumption (which is a bit dangerous) is that they are doing it algorithmically as well, which means after XX days people who are infected are just assumed to be recovered (which is an over simplification). There is not a lot of information on how long a person is infected for yet with the version that is going around, and with so few cases the numbers could be off dramatically even if we did know.

With that in mind, I'm planning to watch the total cumulative cases, until one of two things happens: (1) I get clarity on how the 'recovered' number is being calculated & we have better data on how long someone is infected on average, or (2) we get to about 1 million world wide cumulative cases. I expect (based on the current chart) in my very-bad-case scenario that would be at the end of August.

Would love to hear your thoughts on which one we should follow & why.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Just too soon to say, but not too early to be paying attention. At this late date, I'm guessing the WHO meeting Thursday will be a nothingburger.

Given that they seem to be backing off on the Monkey pox narrative, that is my hope.

That said, I did another home hair cut this morning. All three of the walk-in hair cut places were jammed at 9 am, with only one or two gals working! At least I wasn't exposed to anything. There is still a norovirus-type flu going around.

(Crowded salons and eating at restaurants are still off the list. I do get carryout from selected locally-owned restaurants)
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just too soon to say, but not too early to be paying attention. At this late date, I'm guessing the WHO meeting Thursday will be a nothingburger.
WHO Monkeypox Update: 2103 Confirmed Cases, One Death, Across 42 Countries
Spain Monkeypox Testing Site As Cases on The Rise WHO

A positive result of monkeypox test in seen on a computer screen at the microbiology laboratory of ... [+] La Paz Hospital on June 06, 2022 in Madrid, Spain. (Photo by Pablo Blazquez Dominguez/Getty Images)
Getty Images
Since the end of May, the World Health Organization (WHO) has been saying that the ongoing monkeypox outbreak poses “moderate risk” to the world. That’s lower than high risk, but higher than low.
What’s moderate risk look like? Well, in only a week, the total number of laboratory confirmed monkeypox cases since the start of 2022 went from 1285 on June 8 to 2103 on June 15. That’s about a 64% jump, right after a similar one-week 65% jump from 780 cases on June 4. These numbers are from the latest WHO situation update on June 17.
Yes, the who, what, when, and how of it is that the World does have situation here. Cases have now spanned 42 countries and five different WHO regions, including many countries that rarely or never see monkeypox cases. Most (1773 or 84% of all cases) of these confirmed cases have been in the WHO European Region with the Region of the Americas coming in second with 245 or 12% and the African Region coming in third (64 or 3%). There’s been one death too in Nigeria.
PROMOTED



This is probably just the tip of the monkeypox iceberg. Many cases may go unreported especially when symptoms are milder. Plus, while the WHO had provided suspected cases and deaths in previous situational updates, they will be “now focusing primarily on confirmed and probable cases, including deaths among confirmed and probable cases.” This may lead to further underestimation of the size and scope of the outbreak.

Now, just because the monkeypox virus has spread across multiple countries, don’t start using the p-word here (meaning “pandemic” and not any other p-word). This is not another pandemic for three big reasons. Unlike the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the monkeypox virus is not a novel to humans virus. It’s been infecting humans since 1971, albeit not a lot of humans. Your immune system may not be a complete virgin to this virus if you’ve gotten the smallpox vaccine previously since there is some similarlity between the smallpox and monkeypox viruses. Secondly, there needs to be clearer evidence of sustained transmission of the virus in multiple countries. Then there’s the third reason, even if sustained transmission is occurring, this is not a virus novel to human beings. Yes, this is the same reason as the first. But it’s important to emphasize that for something to qualify as a pandemic, the pathogen has got to be novel.
Spain Sets Up Monkeypox Testing Site As Cases on The Rise

A medical laboratory technician places suspected monkeypox samples inside an automated nucleic acid ... [+] extractor before being PCR tested at the microbiology laboratory of La Paz Hospital in Madrid, Spain. (Photo by Pablo Blazquez Dominguez/Getty Images)

Getty Images
So far, of the cases from the 14 countries where demographic information is available, 99% have been men 65 years and younger, with the median age being 37 years. The WHO indicated that “most self-identify as men who have sex with other men.” But before the stigmatization gates open, keep in mind several things. Only 468 of the 2103 confirmed cases had demographic and other personal information available. Plus, reported and laboratory confirmed cases are typically only a fraction of all real cases. Who knows (meaning the pronoun and not the health organization) how many other cases are out there unreported and what their characteristics may be. Finally, the virus spreads via any type of close contact. It ain’t judgy like people can be.

This has been an unusual outbreak, not just because it’s the monkeypox. The cases have been unusual for monkeypox cases. My May 8 article for Forbes described the classic progression of symptoms, stating with fever and swollen lymph nodes then followed with the development of rashes that begin on the face before spreading to other parts of the body, particularly the extremities. Before this current outbreak, these lesions have tended to be synchronous, meaning that all lesions have been at the same stage at a given time whether they are in the flat rash, bump, fluid-filled vesicle, pustule, or scab stages. But for this current outbreak, the unusual presentations have included:

  • Lesions appearing before other symptoms like fever, fatigues, and swollen lymph nodes: This is a bit like jumping to the chorus of a song. .
  • Having only a single or a few lesions: Versus many more lesions.
  • Lesions just on the genitals or the perineal/perianal area: Typically, lesions will start on the face and then spread to other parts of the body, especially the extremities.
  • Lesions at different stages at the same time: Typically, all of the lesions will be at the same stage of development at a given time, being synchronous rather than asynchronous.

Speaking of genitals, the WHO is investigating whether sexual bodily fluids such as semen can transmit the virus, as I covered last week for Forbes.
INDIA-HEALTH-VIRUS

Health workers screen passengers arriving from abroad for monkeypox symptoms at Anna International ... [+] Airport terminal in Chennai, India. (Photo by ARUN SANKAR/AFP via Getty Images)

AFP via Getty Images
Now just because this outbreak is of “moderate risk” doesn’t mean that the response will be the same as when your municipality indicates that the Covid-19 coronavirus is of “moderate risk.” Again, these are very different viruses. The WHO has indicated that the main monkeypox control measures remain surveillance, contact-tracing, isolation and care of patients. The WHO is currently not recommending mass vaccination witht he available smallpox vaccines. Instead, they are recommending vaccination for those at high risk for being exposed such as health care professionals who may be seeing patients with monkeypox, public health workers who may be investigating the outbreak, and laboratory personnel who may be working with the virus somehow. This would be considered pre-exposure prophylaxis against the monkeypox vaccine. Vaccination may be helpful for post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) too: within four days of first exposure to the monkeypox virus. This can be up to 14 days when symptoms have not yet emerged. The WHO is also not recommending any particular travel restrictions due to the outbreak.

Once again, this monkeypox outbreak is by no means the same as the Covid-19 pandemic. It’s not going to prompt the same approach that was used for Covid-19. That doesn’t mean that you should monkeypox around, though. Don’t take unnecessary risks. Take precautions if someone around you may have been exposed to the monkeypox virus such as maintaining distance and encouraging the person to see a real medical doctor as soon as possible. And if you see some unexplained lesions on your friends, colleagues, or strangers, resist the urge to touch them.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
You are very correct that it does make a difference. A big difference. We agree on that.

The number I'm quoting is from the site below, which as far as I can tell is the total cumulative cases (which includes any that would have recovered). The site does not definitively specify, but since it does not have a "recovered" category it may be a mostly safe assumption.


I'm currently watching the total cumulative cases, and not the currently infected cases. Here is why: There does not seem to be any clarity (yet) in the reported numbers on if a person is infected or recovered.

When Covid was in the early phases it had the same issue. When a person was counted as "infected" with Covid, in most cases they were not monitored / followed and then reported when that same person tested negative & was considered "recovered". Instead, it was done with an algorithm that said we expect a certain number of people will recovered within a certain number of days of having the positive test, and then automatically removed as a "currently" infected person with no correlation to if they were actually recovered or still sick. Which on a macro scale, makes sense, and the more people that are infected (in the millions) the more accurate the algorithm would be (unless it was manipulated).

I have not been able to find how they identify when a person is recovered from Monkeypox (meaning in the data that is being reported, not meaning medically). So my assumption (which is a bit dangerous) is that they are doing it algorithmically as well, which means after XX days people who are infected are just assumed to be recovered (which is an over simplification). There is not a lot of information on how long a person is infected for yet with the version that is going around, and with so few cases the numbers could be off dramatically even if we did know.

With that in mind, I'm planning to watch the total cumulative cases, until one of two things happens: (1) I get clarity on how the 'recovered' number is being calculated & we have better data on how long someone is infected on average, or (2) we get to about 1 million world wide cumulative cases. I expect (based on the current chart) in my very-bad-case scenario that would be at the end of August.

Would love to hear your thoughts on which one we should follow & why.

Until I'm able to determine how many of these daily updates include how many of those have recovered, I'm not getting too excited. Now, if we start seeing this spreading like a wildfire, I'll get excited. I would then say that we have an epidemic on our hands.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I thought there were no deaths at this point??
Before freaking read article link:

Monkeypox: 72 deaths reported, with 2,821 cases confirmed, suspected so far this 2022
As monkeypox cases rise, information sharing is key weapon, says WHO
Monkeypox
MONKEYPOX SHOTS: There are at least 3 approved vaccines that work against monkeypox, according to the WHO. Image Credit: Shutterstock
What's the best way to fight the global spread of monkeypox viral infection?
Sharing of information.
So stressed the World Health Organisation (WHO) as the agency continues to receive updates on the status of ongoing monkeypox outbreaks and newly-reported cases.
On Saturday (June 10), the WHO published an "interim rapid response" guidance for the clinical management and infection prevention and control of monkeypox for health care and community settings.
Early warning system
The WHO, headquartered in Geneva, has established a surveillance network, which serves as an early warning system to detect disease outbreaks quickly before they spread, cost lives and become difficult to control, evaluate the impact of an intervention, and track progress.
The agency said the disease is "usually self-limiting" but stressed that it may be "severe in some individuals, such as children, pregnant women or persons with immune suppression due to other health conditions".
Monkeypox virus mostly transmitted from one person to another by close contact with lesions, body fluids, respiratory droplets and contaminated materials such as bedding.
2,821 cases
In its latest update, WHO stated it has received reports of a total of 2,821 confirmed and suspected cases of monkeypox from both “non-endemic" and “endemic” countries.
As of June 8, WHO reported 1,285 monkeypox cases among 28 “non-endemic” countries. The number covers the period from May 13 to June 8, 2022. (note the number back dates to May 13 so any cases back in May should already be over, even though they are being tallied in the total number of cases.
In several African countries, where monkeypox is endemic, there were 1,536 suspected cases and 59 confirmed cases reported. These were in eight countries: Cameroon, Central African Republic, Republic of Congro, DR Congo, Liberia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Ghana.
72 deaths from monkeypox
The WHO monkeypox tally in Africa, which covers the period from January 2022 to June 8, 2022, recorded 72 deaths from the illness within in the region. (note location and time period from back in January)

Support for information sharing
“WHO continues to support sharing of information,” the health body said in its latest guidance. “Clinical and public health incident response has been activated to coordinate comprehensive case finding, contact tracing, laboratory investigation, clinical management, isolation, and implementation of infection prevention and control measures,” it added.
1,620 cases in non-endemic countries
BNO, a Dutch monkeypox tracker, has listed 1,620 cases — of which 1,576 are confirmed (as of 12.08 UAE, June 13, 2022), citing local media reports and health authorities in the countries covered.
Monkeypox genome sequences published
The key to information sharing is genomic sequencing of monkeypox viral DNA, which is being undertaken where available, the WHO said.
Several European countries (Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Israel, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) and the US have published full-length or partial genome sequences of the monkeypox virus found in the current outbreak.
Role of PCR tests in detecting monkeypox
In general, real-time polymerase chain reaction (PCR) may be used on lesion material to diagnose a potential infection with monkeypox virus. While investigations are ongoing, preliminary data from PCR assays indicate that the monkeypox virus genes detected belong to the West African “clade”, WHO reported.
In virology, viruses are placed in “clades” based on phylogenetic trees constructed from their genome sequences.
Clade, phylogenetic tree
CLADE:

In virology, viruses are placed in “clades” (groups of organisms) based on phylogenetic trees constructed from their genome sequences.

Based on their genome sequences, similar viruses are grouped by their clades. Changes in those viruses are tracked using phylogeny.

PHYLOGENETIC TREE:

It is a diagram that depicts the lines of evolutionary descent of different species, organisms, or genes from a common ancestor).
WHO said human infections with the West African clade appear to cause less severe disease compared to the Congo Basin clade, with a case fatality rate of 3.6% compared to 10.6% for the Congo Basin clade, the agency stated in a report.
What vaccines are used to fight monkeypox virus?
The WHO stated that two types of vaccines (ACAM-2000 and MVA-BN) are being deployed by some member states to serve as prophylaxis for close contacts.
Other countries may hold supplies of other types of vaccines, such as LC16.
ACAM-2000
ACAM-2000 is licensed by the FDA for smallpox (Vaccinia) for active immunisation against smallpox disease for persons determined to be at high risk for smallpox infection. The vaccine is manufactured by Sanofi Pasteur Biologics Co.
MVA-BN
Modified vaccinia Ankara-Bavarian Nordic (MVA-BN) is a highly attenuated vaccinia virus. MVA-BN is a non-replicating smallpox vaccine distributed in liquid-frozen formulation suitable for use against smallpox. The vaccine is approved in Europe for use in the general adult population. Bavarian-Nordic stated on its website that MVA-BN, an injectable, is not yet approved in the US, though it is currently stockpiled by the US Government for emergency use in people for whom replicating smallpox vaccines are contraindicated.
Because MVA-BN virus is highly attenuated, it is thus incapable of replicating in the body, yet is still capable of eliciting a potent immune response and does so without producing the post-vaccination complications, the vaccine maker said.
LC16
LC16 (specifically LC16m8), is also an attenuated smallpox vaccine is also currently stockpiled in the US. The LC16m8 is an attenuated, replicating smallpox vaccine derived from the Lister strain of vaccinia, is also currently licensed in Japan where it was safely used in over 50,000 children in the 1970s. 
According to a report by the US National Institutes of Health (NIH), the LC16m8 is “immunogenic” after a single dose.
Studies cited in 2006 in the scientific journal Vaccine, states that LC16m8 administered in two different animal models demonstrated protective efficacy equivalent to that of the only FDA-licensed smallpox vaccine.
Monkeypox guidance
Meanwhile, the WHO has said that interim guidance is being or has been developed to support member states with raising awareness, surveillance, laboratory diagnostics and testing, case investigation and contact-tracing, clinical management and infection prevention control, vaccines and immunisation, and risk communication and community engagement.
The guidance outlines considerations for community care, patients with moderate to severe disease, sexually active persons, pregnant or breastfeeding women, children and young persons.
The guidance also addresses considerations for clinical management such as the use of therapeutics, nutritional support, mental health services, and post-infection follow-up. 
The guidance is meant for clinicians, health facility managers, health workers and infection prevention and control practitioners.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Also remember that any narrative is to support the one being submitted by the Admin. And if you don't trust them about Covid 19, the war in Ukraine, CRT, whipping migrants, Trumps crimes, then you should be aware of these not so much inflated numbers but rather numbers that are couched in a particular way to support the narrative.

For example if the number of cases early on was high, and then dropped off, to support the narrative they would still include those numbers to give a particular look to the spread.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
WHO will be meeting to determine if Monkeypox is an international emergency or not. I don't know what all else, but that is the basis for their meeting.

Some court watchers think Roe v. Wade decision might be released on Thursday, as well.

UPDATE: just read somewhere that a FRIDAY decision day has been added to the calendar, so a/more decision(s) will be released on Friday at 10 am EDT.

FRIDAY . . . that would be my bet if they are going to release it this week.
 
Last edited:

phloydius

Veteran Member
Interesting thread on someone getting tested for MonkeyPox, from about 17 hours ago:

-----------------

View: https://twitter.com/raanibegum/status/1539320615592771584


Raani Begum @raanibegum
Someone I love has major blisters and went to ER. Got quarantined for #monkeypox. The health department (Philly's I believe) is refusing to test because this person isn't sexually active. What the ever loving ****? How can I get more advocacy for her?

Raani Begum @raanibegum
They're currently quarantined at an ER and being tested for. . . .HIV

Raani Begum @raanibegum
Just so I'm clear: the doctors are doing everything to advocate. It's the department of public health that's a barrier here. If we don't have enough tests, we'd just love some transparency. @PHLPublicHealth being cold and dismissive isn't actually helpful here!

Raani Begum @raanibegum
The person I love works with our unhoused population. The person I love is able to advocate for themselves and have insurance thankfully. How are you treating people who are coming in with less? How are you sending someone back to an at risk community @PHLPublicHealth

Raani Begum @raanibegum
While my loved one went to ER in the morning, @PHLPublicHealth waited until after 4pm to ask the hospital for a bacterial test. When I got into contact with health dept, they said if bacterial test comes negative then they'll test for monkeypox. I have questions:

Raani Begum @raanibegum
1) why can't tests be administering together? Accordingly to dept: bcs the state lab that does this testing isn't open until the morning. So why wait until EOD to administer bacteria?! Idk but I'm frustrated and I expressed it!

Raani Begum @raanibegum
Would love a public health answer on this but: 2) wouldn't all pus field leisons have bacteria? Shouldn't monkeypox leisons also have bacteria? I honestly do not understand what they're trying to eliminate to get to monkeypox testing?! Someone explain

Paula Carmichael @DrPCarmichael
Replying to @raanibegum
Intact monkeypox lesions will not have bacteria in them. Yellow/ white fluid in pustules is full of white blood cells. If there is a bacterial infection bacteria will be seen or will grow from the fluid.

Raani Begum @raanibegum
My loved one is being discharged. They're running tests (incl one for monkeypox as per infectious disease Dr.) and we'll have more information in the following days. They're giving her for some antibiotics etc. I'll update this thread if there's more relevant updates.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Interesting thread on someone getting tested for MonkeyPox, from about 17 hours ago:

-----------------

View: https://twitter.com/raanibegum/status/1539320615592771584


Raani Begum @raanibegum
Someone I love has major blisters and went to ER. Got quarantined for #monkeypox. The health department (Philly's I believe) is refusing to test because this person isn't sexually active. What the ever loving ****? How can I get more advocacy for her?

Raani Begum @raanibegum
They're currently quarantined at an ER and being tested for. . . .HIV

Raani Begum @raanibegum
Just so I'm clear: the doctors are doing everything to advocate. It's the department of public health that's a barrier here. If we don't have enough tests, we'd just love some transparency. @PHLPublicHealth being cold and dismissive isn't actually helpful here!

Raani Begum @raanibegum
The person I love works with our unhoused population. The person I love is able to advocate for themselves and have insurance thankfully. How are you treating people who are coming in with less? How are you sending someone back to an at risk community @PHLPublicHealth

Raani Begum @raanibegum
While my loved one went to ER in the morning, @PHLPublicHealth waited until after 4pm to ask the hospital for a bacterial test. When I got into contact with health dept, they said if bacterial test comes negative then they'll test for monkeypox. I have questions:

Raani Begum @raanibegum
1) why can't tests be administering together? Accordingly to dept: bcs the state lab that does this testing isn't open until the morning. So why wait until EOD to administer bacteria?! Idk but I'm frustrated and I expressed it!

Raani Begum @raanibegum
Would love a public health answer on this but: 2) wouldn't all pus field leisons have bacteria? Shouldn't monkeypox leisons also have bacteria? I honestly do not understand what they're trying to eliminate to get to monkeypox testing?! Someone explain

Paula Carmichael @DrPCarmichael
Replying to @raanibegum
Intact monkeypox lesions will not have bacteria in them. Yellow/ white fluid in pustules is full of white blood cells. If there is a bacterial infection bacteria will be seen or will grow from the fluid.

Raani Begum @raanibegum
My loved one is being discharged. They're running tests (incl one for monkeypox as per infectious disease Dr.) and we'll have more information in the following days. They're giving her for some antibiotics etc. I'll update this thread if there's more relevant updates.
Thanks for posting. I started looking at that thread last night but didn’t see all of it.
 

jward

passin' thru
Dunno what this fella has done wrt MP, but during covid he was an absolute hair on fire alarmist, long on breathless attention seeking and short on substance- but, I imagine he's safe enough to use as source for an official agency declaration?

ETA: Please note, as Phloydius points out, this is the WORLD HEALTH NETWORK and not the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, who'll be making their recommendations re: this illness tomorrow, June 23rd.

Just for clarity, since the WHO is planning on meeting Thursday about Monkeypox, the WHN might be easily be confused with the WHO if someone was not familiar with the two groups: The WHN is a US based 501(c)(3) nonprofit, and the WHO is an international NGO.

I wonder if the WHN is trying to steal WHO's thunder...


Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing

3m

Declaration—
@TheWHN
Network today announced that they are declaring the current #monkeypox outbreak a pandemic with over 3500 cases across 58 countries and the rapidly expanding across continents. The outbreak will not stop without concerted global action. https://worldhealthnetwork.global/monkeypoxpress
1655946860619.png
 
Last edited:

jward

passin' thru
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeyp...22/us-map.html

Data as of June 22, 2022, 2 pm Eastern. Data will be updated Monday–Friday.
Total confirmed monkeypox/orthopoxvirus cases: 156
*One Florida case is listed here but included in the United Kingdom case counts because the individual was tested while in the UK.


Arizona1
California40
Colorado5
District Of Columbia4
Florida16
Georgia5
Hawaii5
Illinois19
Indiana2
Maryland3
Massachusetts9
Missouri2
Nevada1
New Jersey1
New York22
Ohio1
Oklahoma2
Oregon1
Pennsylvania2
Rhode Island1
Texas4
Utah3
Virginia1
Washington4
 

phloydius

Veteran Member
Declaration—
@TheWHN
Network today announced that they are declaring the current #monkeypox outbreak a pandemic with over 3500 cases across 58 countries and the rapidly expanding across continents. The outbreak will not stop without concerted global action. https://worldhealthnetwork.global/monkeypoxpress

Just for clarity, since the WHO is planning on meeting Thursday about Monkeypox, the WHN might be easily be confused with the WHO if someone was not familiar with the two groups: The WHN is a US based 501(c)(3) nonprofit, and the WHO is an international NGO.

I wonder if the WHN is trying to steal WHO's thunder...
 
Top