ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

wait-n-see

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Anyone think this will result in nuclear war?

Considering human nature and the high level of stupidity currently in the western governments, yes. There is a good chance we will get nuclear dawn, not huge right now, but it is there.

Too many people are trying to poke a cornered and dangerous bear in every way possible, and this bear has access to as many nukes as he wants and the authority to use them.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
More evidence that China is backing Russia. Sanctions should be directed against them too.

How Russia and China Cemented Economic Ties Before Ukraine Invasion - The New York Times
View: https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1497711222376263680?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


Biden asked China to tell Russia not to invade....

WTF.

China wants Taiwan.
View: https://twitter.com/FireandRain23/status/1497676230056980483?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


Senator rips Biden's policies: 'Biden has pushed Russia closer to China'
View: https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1497737628631724036?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


Before Ukraine Invasion, Russia and China Cemented Economic Ties
"Chinese purchases of oil from Russia in Dec surpassed its purchases from Saudi Arabia. 6 days before the military campaign began, Russia announced a..deal to sell 100m tons of coal to China..worth > $20bn. & hours before Russia began bombing Ukraine"
View: https://twitter.com/afshinrattansi/status/1497729492281929730?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


Ignore what Russia and China say, watch what they do.
Xi Jinping drew closer to Russia on the eve of war in Ukraine
View: https://twitter.com/CUhlmann/status/1497758104418926593?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


China just signaled which side it’s taking in the Russia/Ukraine war.

China signaled their support for Putin before he crossed the border.
View: https://twitter.com/PoliticsCarlos/status/1497739345117294594?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


“This is a pledge to stand shoulder to shoulder against America and the West, ideologically as well as militarily,” a Russia expert said.
Russia and China Unveil a Pact Against America and the West
In a sweeping long-term agreement, Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, the two most powerful autocrats, challenge the current political and military order.
View: https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1497732412763262978?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA



It now makes sense that they tried so hard to steal the election and then cover it all up.

They weren't worried about mean Tweets. They had plans.

Russia, China, WEF, UN, WHO, and so many others needed Trump out of the way to do exactly what they've done for the last year.
View: https://twitter.com/JDRucker/status/1497678295634087936?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA



Discussion: What do you think Russia's move will be next in terms of the sanctions? Our guess, without any expertise on economics -- Russia will nationalize EU/US property/companies in Russia.

First and foremost get much closer to China, then they start untethering from the western economy

Would not surprise me if they attempted to build their own int’l payment system to circumvent SWIFT

India gains huge economic and defense gains, China is forced to decouple from Pakistan as a result of Russia becoming closer to India than ever before. Natural gas costs in Europe soar.
View: https://twitter.com/Powertothethird/status/1497774251926953988?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


They are not going in blind.
This has been in play for a long time.
The war in Ukraine is just the appetizer.
The war on the US$ will be THE main course.

China-Russia will ditch dollar:
-In 2015 90% of their bilateral transactions were conducted in dollars.
-By Q1 2020 46% of their bilateral transactions were conducted in dollars.
-De-dollarization results in a Defacto Alliance.
-They've been doing this since 2014.
-WHEN not IF.

Very True!
View: https://twitter.com/Kenosi61034956/status/1497780590019547136?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


EXCLUSIVE: I have been given a copy of document issued today by Russian Ministry of Health. It indicates Russia is anticipating a massive medical emergency & has ordered health organizations to immediately identify medical staff ready to relocate & work.

Why pediatric surgeons & infectious disease The letter has a long list of medics it is looking for: trauma, heart, maxillofacial and paediatric surgeons, anaesthetists, radiologists, nurses (including for operating room) and infectious disease specialists.
View: https://twitter.com/1ChordWonder/status/1497776302878642179?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


The document from Russian Ministry of Health is signed by deputy health minister and dated today 25 February. It asks medical organizations to be ready ‘to be promptly involved in activities aimed at saving lives & preserving the health of people in Russia.’

Highly unusual & almost unprecedented." I understand doctors were gathered together yesterday and told to ‘get ready.’ Today, the document from the Russian Health Ministry arrived.

I am told this is highly unusual and almost unprecedented.
View: https://twitter.com/1ChordWonder/status/1497777110605258752?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA
 

vector7

Dot Collector
BREAKING: President Macron says that Russia has been given a “green light” to deploy “nuclear arms” in Belarus.
View: https://twitter.com/IntelNessa/status/1497758009669341185?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA

Concern over a broader conflict has led Finns to buy large quantities of anti-radiation iodine tablets and to prepare a thousand beds for fleeing Ukrainians as Russia threatens consequences if the country joins NATO.
View: https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1497785481093955587?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA

BREAKING: North Korea has fired an unidentified projectile.

UPDATE: Chinese representative says that North Korea has "legitimate and reasonable concerns" and warns both sides to "avoid stimulating each other."
View: https://twitter.com/IntelNessa/status/1497783615547232259?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


NEW: The financial director of Gasprom, the largest natural gas company in Russia by revenue, has been found dead by suicide in St. Petersburg, Russia.
View: https://twitter.com/IntelNessa/status/1497775521744175106?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA
 

vector7

Dot Collector
A priceless exchange of a brave Ukrainian citizen with Russian army stuck out of fuel. ENGLISH SUBTITLES. [Thanks to my Ukrainian friend for transcription and translation]

Out of fuel, on the side of the road, don’t really know what the plan is, where they’re going, talking freely to random strangers that drive up… This is not a disciplined army. This has the feel of a bunch of green soldiers on an exercise being fed lies about why they’re there.
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/OldNewDad/status/1497562081645760512?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


I don’t know what to believe of this. They have spent months preparing for this why would they be so unprepared for a situation like this? Something don’t smell right here...

From what I understand, UKR troops are allowing the armoured vehicles through, and then attacking the infrastructure that follows (fuel, food, medics, etc, etc). There’s a term for this strategy that escapes me.
View: https://twitter.com/NowtThe/status/1497538423313375237?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


So the RU tanks, armoured troop carriers, missile launchers go through, the UKR then circle behind them and attack the infrastructure. My dad would always tell me War infrastructure planning is more important than battle planning.

Taking out the supply lines and logistical capability of a fighting force is nothing new.
Montgomery v Rommel
The Battle in the Ardennes.
View: https://twitter.com/StAndrews68/status/1497550928701964291?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
As far as things going nuclear I doubt it would go beyond one or two cities on either side. The fallout in every sense has to be calculated so as to not impair infrastructure but more importantly not sterilize otherwise fertile farm lands. Food is the game here. Everyone needs the US and Ukraine farm lands period.
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
sounds like the gloves are coming off for the civilian targeting & casualties >>> wouldn't be too surprised if there's a "demonstration" of the Putin resolve tomorrow in the capital.... surrender - or else
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
A priceless exchange of a brave Ukrainian citizen with Russian army stuck out of fuel. ENGLISH SUBTITLES. [Thanks to my Ukrainian friend for transcription and translation]

Out of fuel, on the side of the road, don’t really know what the plan is, where they’re going, talking freely to random strangers that drive up… This is not a disciplined army. This has the feel of a bunch of green soldiers on an exercise being fed lies about why they’re there.
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/OldNewDad/status/1497562081645760512?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


I don’t know what to believe of this. They have spent months preparing for this why would they be so unprepared for a situation like this? Something don’t smell right here...

From what I understand, UKR troops are allowing the armoured vehicles through, and then attacking the infrastructure that follows (fuel, food, medics, etc, etc). There’s a term for this strategy that escapes me.
View: https://twitter.com/NowtThe/status/1497538423313375237?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


So the RU tanks, armoured troop carriers, missile launchers go through, the UKR then circle behind them and attack the infrastructure. My dad would always tell me War infrastructure planning is more important than battle planning.

Taking out the supply lines and logistical capability of a fighting force is nothing new.
Montgomery v Rommel
The Battle in the Ardennes.
View: https://twitter.com/StAndrews68/status/1497550928701964291?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA
WTF is Putin doing? Honestly, this is piss-poor performance.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
BREAKING: President Macron says that Russia has been given a “green light” to deploy “nuclear arms” in Belarus.
View: https://twitter.com/IntelNessa/status/1497758009669341185?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA

Concern over a broader conflict has led Finns to buy large quantities of anti-radiation iodine tablets and to prepare a thousand beds for fleeing Ukrainians as Russia threatens consequences if the country joins NATO.
View: https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1497785481093955587?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA

BREAKING: North Korea has fired an unidentified projectile.

UPDATE: Chinese representative says that North Korea has "legitimate and reasonable concerns" and warns both sides to "avoid stimulating each other."
View: https://twitter.com/IntelNessa/status/1497783615547232259?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


NEW: The financial director of Gasprom, the largest natural gas company in Russia by revenue, has been found dead by suicide in St. Petersburg, Russia.
View: https://twitter.com/IntelNessa/status/1497775521744175106?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA
Re: that first picture. We sure made cooler-looking missiles back when.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB

Vegas321

Live free and survive
A priceless exchange of a brave Ukrainian citizen with Russian army stuck out of fuel. ENGLISH SUBTITLES. [Thanks to my Ukrainian friend for transcription and translation]

Out of fuel, on the side of the road, don’t really know what the plan is, where they’re going, talking freely to random strangers that drive up… This is not a disciplined army. This has the feel of a bunch of green soldiers on an exercise being fed lies about why they’re there.
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/OldNewDad/status/1497562081645760512?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


I don’t know what to believe of this. They have spent months preparing for this why would they be so unprepared for a situation like this? Something don’t smell right here...

From what I understand, UKR troops are allowing the armoured vehicles through, and then attacking the infrastructure that follows (fuel, food, medics, etc, etc). There’s a term for this strategy that escapes me.
View: https://twitter.com/NowtThe/status/1497538423313375237?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA


So the RU tanks, armoured troop carriers, missile launchers go through, the UKR then circle behind them and attack the infrastructure. My dad would always tell me War infrastructure planning is more important than battle planning.

Taking out the supply lines and logistical capability of a fighting force is nothing new.
Montgomery v Rommel
The Battle in the Ardennes.
View: https://twitter.com/StAndrews68/status/1497550928701964291?s=20&t=8tH4c-fODN5R6U8pC23TWA

If these story's are true. That Russian armor is out if gas from logistics problems. The Russian army could soon be in big do-do.
Ukrainian troops can cut supply lines. As Russian armor sits on side of roads. They are sitting ducks for ambush.
Yes, logistics are most important to a successful mission. Anyone with basic military knowledge knows this. Guess, Putin surrounded himself with yes men, and no one with military skills.
Kindof what the US military has evolved to...
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Why do I have a feeling this may be the catalyst for ww3?

With respect we are already there.

Let us break it down:

Houthis going after UAE in the middle east
Iran funding all manner of terror organizations
Saudi funding some terror groups
Palestinians at odds with Israel refusing to accept the two state solution
Pakistan at odds with India and bordering Iran
India at odds on bordering neighboor with China
North Korea flexing muscles
Increasing immigrant related violence in europe
Australia in turmoil with an out of control government
Phillipines fighting signifigant corruption and crime
Venezuela failing economy causing all manner of unrest.
Gangs and cartels in mexico flowing over in to the USA
Canada going out of control in regards to draconian lock downs against its own citizens
South African continent countries with growing islamic segments enslaving local populations and selling them on the local markets and becoming basis for piracy. (Think Boko Harem and multiply it and thrown in the barbary coast)
China fighting its internal lay down movement
China preparing to supposedly taking Taiwan and then Japan at the same time
Taiwan preparing defenses to repel a Chinese invasion and hope to actually invade China mainland and depose the PRC.
Britain suffering signifigant violence and unrest from unassimilated immigrants and fighting brussels attempts to pitch a fit at their expense.
USA suffering increasing violence from gangs and cartels, communist infiltrators from various countries, and BLM/Antifa groups that are fronts for other groups.

SO yes, I think we have enough going on at this point to fall under the classification of a world war.
 

meandk0610

Veteran Member
My wife was doing a web search for remote work.

Do you have any ideas just how fricking many jobs that there are paying $50,000 a year for 15 hours a week? Working from home.

Monitoring and Countering convservative mis information.


Oh...my...god.

Look into it...REALLY.
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jward

passin' thru
MARCELUS PRETORIUS
@Medf72

9m

Russia more and more alone. In 48h:

- Zeman and Orban turn their backs on him
- China abstains in UNSC
- Sweden and Finland discuss joining NATO
- US and EU sanction Putin
- SWIFT penalty close
- ten European countries close airspace
- Germany sends weapons to Ukraine
 

desertvet2

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Inquiring minds need more money! :ld: Seriously, where do I apply? (Because I lost my biggest contract in October and, being partially disabled, have not found anything to replace it.)
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Literally there is an army of progressives doing this crap.

Not cool in my opinion.
 

Ira

Si Vis Pacem Parabellum
With respect we are already there.

Let us break it down:

Houthis going after UAE in the middle east
Iran funding all manner of terror organizations
Saudi funding some terror groups
Palestinians at odds with Israel refusing to accept the two state solution
Pakistan at odds with India and bordering Iran
India at odds on bordering neighboor with China
North Korea flexing muscles
Increasing immigrant related violence in europe
Australia in turmoil with an out of control government
Phillipines fighting signifigant corruption and crime
Venezuela failing economy causing all manner of unrest.
Gangs and cartels in mexico flowing over in to the USA
Canada going out of control in regards to draconian lock downs against its own citizens
South African continent countries with growing islamic segments enslaving local populations and selling them on the local markets and becoming basis for piracy. (Think Boko Harem and multiply it and thrown in the barbary coast)
China fighting its internal lay down movement
China preparing to supposedly taking Taiwan and then Japan at the same time
Taiwan preparing defenses to repel a Chinese invasion and hope to actually invade China mainland and depose the PRC.
Britain suffering signifigant violence and unrest from unassimilated immigrants and fighting brussels attempts to pitch a fit at their expense.
USA suffering increasing violence from gangs and cartels, communist infiltrators from various countries, and BLM/Antifa groups that are fronts for other groups.

SO yes, I think we have enough going on at this point to fall under the classification of a world war.
I see your point
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
Would not surprise me if they attempted to build their own int’l payment system to circumvent SWIFT

China already has its own international payment system called CIPS.


China’s international payments system CIPS sees higher use
BOFIT VIIKKOKATSAUS / BOFIT WEEKLY 2021/28

16 Jul 2021
China’s cross-border interbank payment system, CIPS, which is administered by the People’s Bank of China, handled 2.2 million payment transactions last year with a total value of 45.2 trillion yuan. The volume of CIPS payment traffic last year rose by about 20 %, while the total value of transactions was up by over 30 %. Growth was particularly strong in the final quarter of 2020.

As its name implies, CIPS is used for international transfers of yuan-denominated transactions between banks. Most CIPS payment traffic moves between Hong Kong and mainland China, although an exact breakdown is not revealed from the available CIPS statistics. Banks in ASEAN countries also use the system, accounting for 8 % of CIPS payment transfers last year and 15 % of value. Use of CIPS in Africa, Latin America and Europe is still marginal, accounting for only about 0.5 % of payment transactions and less than the 0.1 % of their value.

As of end-May, 1,189 banks representing roughly 100 countries used CIPS. Of these banks, 569 operated in mainland China, 355 elsewhere in Asia, 154 in Europe, 42 in Africa, 26 in North America, 23 in the Australia & Pacific region and 17 in Latin America. Many of the foreign bank branches are subsidiaries of Chinese banks. There are 47 direct member banks and most of the banks linked to the system (1,142) are indirect participants. Banks directly plugged into the system act as transfer hubs to pass payments on to indirectly linked participant banks. All direct participants are subsidiaries of large Chinese banks.

China decided to establish its own international payment system in 2012 and CIPS began its operations in 2015 (BOFIT Weekly 26/2015). The main purpose of the system is to encourage international use of the yuan, but it also provides an alternative to the western SWIFT payment system. Despite the rapid growth in CIPS payment traffic, the volume of payments handled by the system are tiny relative to the volume handled by the SWIFT system. SWIFT and CIPS have cooperated for years on integration of the two systems. The thread of the US imposing financial sanctions to some actors that limit their use of USD may have increased the interest in the CIPS alternative.

Yuan-based payment transactions through China’s cross-border interbank payment system CIPS have climbed steadily over the past few years

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Sources: CIPS and BOFIT.
 

Doughboy42

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9m

Russia more and more alone. In 48h:

- Zeman and Orban turn their backs on him
- China abstains in UNSC
- Sweden and Finland discuss joining NATO
- US and EU sanction Putin
- SWIFT penalty close
- ten European countries close airspace
- Germany sends weapons to Ukraine
Putin is infected with Dictator Derangement Syndrome (think Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the Kims, etc.). The above is exactly why he may go nuclear. Tactical will let the Genie out of the bottle and strategic will follow. But, I'm just a 75 year old, crippled, ex-GI Viet Nam Vet who has been collecting dots since the Cuban Missile Crisis ....... what do I know?
 

Knoxville's Joker

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Putin is infected with Dictator Derangement Syndrome (think Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the Kims, etc.). The above is exactly why he may go nuclear. Tactical will let the Genie out of the bottle and strategic will follow. But, I'm just a 75 year old, crippled, ex-GI Viet Nam Vet who has been collecting dots since the Cuban Missile Crisis ....... what do I know?

I do not think it will go nuclear. Cyber attacks are much more effective. Phishing and malware campaigns to cripple corporations. Very few companies have good security. Even fewer have good IT that is paranoid enough to enact mitigation steps as part of SOP on trouble work orders. Think malware that encrypts entire corporate folders and computers and basically dead locks entire systems. Do that to enough utility corporations and you have more than neutralized things without usage of a nuke.
 
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