WAR CHINA THREATENS TO INVADE TAIWAN

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JAN 23: Taiwan’s
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reports multiple Chinese military aircraft entered Taiwan’s Southwest ADIZ including 8 H-6K bombers, 4 J-16 fighters, and 1 Y-8 maritime patrol aircraft.
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This doesnt look good.

I hope the military wraps things up with the frauded election asap.

Because if they let biden take control, they are commiting suicide.
 
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I share your concern, Rob, but not your hope that there will be any stopping Biden etal from assuming control.
Sounds like they/we've wasted no time picking up where we left off- and China wasted no time testing the waters and flexing.
..we're allowed to be disappointed, but not surprised.. to quote another poster
 
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When America goes to war with China Russia will strike without warning. The Russian president began to speak to the Chinese one. "I will give you the land with all the people, but you must free Taiwan of the Americans. " Do not fear, we will attack them from behind." ( Dimitri Duduman )
 
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Moments ago, One Chinese Navy (PLAN) Y-8Q maritime patrol aircraft #7A431D was spotted operating within Taiwan's southwest ADIZ at 13,000 feet.
8:46 PM · Jan 23, 2021·Twitter Web App
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Also active near Taiwan right now: Chinese Air Force (PLAAF) Y-8G electronic countermeasure aircraft #7A4262 Tail number: 30518. (File photo)
9:16 PM · Jan 23, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

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Taiwan reports large incursion by Chinese air force
By Ben Blanchard
4 Min Read

TAIPEI (Reuters) - Eight Chinese bomber planes and four fighter jets entered the southwestern corner of Taiwan’s air defense identification zone on Saturday, and Taiwan’s air force deployed missiles to “monitor” the incursion, the island’s defense ministry said.

China, which claims Taiwan as its own territory, has conducted almost daily flights over the waters between the southern part of Taiwan and the Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands in the South China Sea in recent months.

However, they have generally consisted of just one or two reconnaissance aircraft.

The presence of so many Chinese combat aircraft on this mission - Taiwan said it was made up of eight nuclear-capable H-6K bombers and four J-16 fighter jets - was unusual.

A map provided by Taiwan’s defense ministry showed that the Chinese aircraft, including a Y-8 anti-submarine aircraft, flew over the same waters where the most recent Chinese missions have been taking place near the Pratas Islands, though still well away from mainland Taiwan.

Taiwan’s air force warned away the Chinese aircraft and deployed missiles to monitor them, the ministry said, using standard wording for how it responds to such activities.


“Airborne alert sorties had been tasked, radio warnings issued and air defense missile systems deployed to monitor the activity,” it said in a brief statement.

The U.S. State Department urged China to stop pressuring Taiwan and reaffirmed its commitment to the island and desire to deepen ties.

“We urge Beijing to cease its military, diplomatic, and economic pressure against Taiwan and instead engage in meaningful dialogue with Taiwan’s democratically elected representatives,” State Department spokesman Ned Price said in a statement.

“We will continue to assist Taiwan in maintaining a sufficient self-defence capability.”

There was no immediate comment from China. In the past, China has said it has been carrying out exercises to defend its sovereignty and security.

Taiwan’s foreign ministry expressed its thanks for the show of U.S. support, adding they would work closely with the Biden administration to strengthen their close partnership.


Lo Chih-Cheng, a senior lawmaker for Taiwan’s ruling Democratic Progressive Party who sits on parliament’s foreign affairs and defense committee, told Reuters China was trying to deter the new U.S. government from backing the island.

“It’s sending a message to the Biden administration,” he said.

Beijing has watched with growing concern increasing U.S. support for democratic Taiwan, especially during Donald Trump’s administration, which left office on Wednesday.

Last year, during visits by senior U.S. officials to Taipei, Chinese aircraft briefly crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait, which normally serves as an unofficial buffer.

The flight by the Chinese bombers and fighters on Saturday came just days after Joe Biden assumed the U.S. presidency.

Emily Horne, spokeswoman for the White House National Security Council, said the U.S. commitment to Taiwan was “rock-solid” after the island’s de facto ambassador in Washington, Hsiao Bi-khim, attended Biden’s swearing-in on Wednesday.

Reporting by Ben Blanchard; Additional reporting by Timothy Gardner in Washington; Editing by Gareth Jones and William Mallard
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PRC Military Pressure Against Taiwan Threatens Regional Peace and Stability


Press Release
Ned Price, Department Spokesperson
January 23, 2021


The United States notes with concern the pattern of ongoing PRC attempts to intimidate its neighbors, including Taiwan. We urge Beijing to cease its military, diplomatic, and economic pressure against Taiwan and instead engage in meaningful dialogue with Taiwan’s democratically elected representatives.
We will stand with friends and allies to advance our shared prosperity, security, and values in the Indo-Pacific region — and that includes deepening our ties with democratic Taiwan. The United States will continue to support a peaceful resolution of cross-strait issues, consistent with the wishes and best interests of the people on Taiwan. The United States maintains its longstanding commitments as outlined in the Three Communiqués, the Taiwan Relations Act, and the Six Assurances. We will continue to assist Taiwan in maintaining a sufficient self-defense capability. Our commitment to Taiwan is rock-solid and contributes to the maintenance of peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait and within the region.
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If I was Taiwan, I'd see if India was interested in some "training exercises" for their diesel electric attack submarines in and around Taiwan. Specifically ones that could be armed with Kalibr or Exocet cruise missiles, with a standing invite to visit any time they were in the neighborhood....

That sort of a partnership is more of a sure thing than DC is at the moment.
 
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US Navy's Theodore Roosevelt of 7th Fleet entered the South China Sea to conduct routine operations
The Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group has entered the South China Sea to conduct its routine operations in support of a Free And Open Indo-Pacific, US Navy confirmed on Saturday. The strike group is accompanied by Carrier Air Wing 11, USS Bunker Hill, Destroyer Squadron among others.
By Rohit Sindhu, Updated : Jan 24, 2021 10:32 IST

US Navy's Theodore Roosevelt of 7th Fleet entered the South China Sea to conduct routine operations
US Navy Theodore Roosevelt I Photo- Business Insider
The Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group (TRCSG) has entered the South China Sea on January 23 to conduct routine operations. The Strike Group is on a scheduled deployment to the U.S. 7th Fleet to ensure freedom of the seas, build partnerships that foster maritime security, and conduct a wide range of operations, the official statement from the US Navy.

“After sailing through these waters throughout my 30-year career, it’s great to be in the South China Sea again, conducting routine operations, promoting freedom of the seas, and reassuring allies and partners,” said Rear Adm. Doug Verissimo, commander, Carrier Strike Group Nine.

“With two-thirds of the world’s trade traveling through this very important region (South China Sea), it is vital that we maintain our presence and continue to promote the rules-based order which has allowed us all to prosper. While we miss visiting our allies and partners in the region in person, we’re grateful for all the opportunities we have to operate with them at sea.”

While in the South China Sea, the strike group is conducting maritime security operations, which include flight operations with fixed and rotary-wing aircraft, maritime strike exercises, and coordinated tactical training between the surface and air units.

“We all benefit from free and open access to the seas and our operations represent our commitment to maintaining regional security and stability,” said Captain. Eric Anduze, USS Theodore Roosevelt's commanding officer. “I’m incredibly proud of the work and professionalism this crew shows every day operating on the high seas,” he adds.

The TRCSG consists of USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71), Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 11, the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), Destroyer Squadron 23, and the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Russell (DDG 59) and USS John Finn (DDG 113).
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TRCSG’s operability in the region directly supports the Chief of Naval Operation’s navigation plan to master all-domain fleet operations and exercise with like-minded navies to enhance our collective strength.

7th Fleet is the U.S. Navy's largest forward-deployed fleet and employs 50 to 70 ships and submarines across the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans. 7th Fleet routinely operates and interacts with 35 maritime nations while conducting missions to preserve and protect a free and open Indo-Pacific region.

Theodore Roosevelt’s embarked air wing consists of the “Tomcatters” of Strike Fighter Squadrons (VFA) 31, “Golden Warriors” of VFA-87, “Blue Diamonds” of VFA-146, “Black Knights” of VFA-154, “Liberty Bells” of Airborne Command and Control Squadron (VAW) 115, “The Gray Wolves” of Electronic Attack Squadron (VAQ) 142, “Wolf Pack” of Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 75, “Eightballers” of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 8 and “Providers” of Fleet Logistic Support Squadron (VRC) 30 Detachment 3.

Theodore Roosevelt departed San Diego for a scheduled deployment to the Indo-Pacific on December 23.
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danielboon said:
When America goes to war with China Russia will strike without warning. ( Dimitri Duduman )
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Not contradicting Duduman, but I expect (given how many in the current admin are hand-in-glove WITH China) that it's more likely China will attack the US first, and then Russia will attack.

I can easily see that scenario.
 
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jward said:
US Navy's Theodore Roosevelt of 7th Fleet entered the South China Sea to conduct routine operations
The Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group has entered the South China Sea to conduct its routine operations in support of a Free And Open Indo-Pacific, US Navy confirmed on Saturday. The strike group is accompanied by Carrier Air Wing 11, USS Bunker Hill, Destroyer Squadron among others.
By Rohit Sindhu, Updated : Jan 24, 2021 10:32 IST

US Navy's Theodore Roosevelt of 7th Fleet entered the South China Sea to conduct routine operations's Theodore Roosevelt of 7th Fleet entered the South China Sea to conduct routine operations
US Navy Theodore Roosevelt I Photo- Business Insider
The Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group (TRCSG) has entered the South China Sea on January 23 to conduct routine operations. The Strike Group is on a scheduled deployment to the U.S. 7th Fleet to ensure freedom of the seas, build partnerships that foster maritime security, and conduct a wide range of operations, the official statement from the US Navy.

“After sailing through these waters throughout my 30-year career, it’s great to be in the South China Sea again, conducting routine operations, promoting freedom of the seas, and reassuring allies and partners,” said Rear Adm. Doug Verissimo, commander, Carrier Strike Group Nine.

“With two-thirds of the world’s trade traveling through this very important region (South China Sea), it is vital that we maintain our presence and continue to promote the rules-based order which has allowed us all to prosper. While we miss visiting our allies and partners in the region in person, we’re grateful for all the opportunities we have to operate with them at sea.”

While in the South China Sea, the strike group is conducting maritime security operations, which include flight operations with fixed and rotary-wing aircraft, maritime strike exercises, and coordinated tactical training between the surface and air units.

“We all benefit from free and open access to the seas and our operations represent our commitment to maintaining regional security and stability,” said Captain. Eric Anduze, USS Theodore Roosevelt's commanding officer. “I’m incredibly proud of the work and professionalism this crew shows every day operating on the high seas,” he adds.

The TRCSG consists of USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71), Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 11, the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), Destroyer Squadron 23, and the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Russell (DDG 59) and USS John Finn (DDG 113).
Also Read- Joe Biden signs 15 Executive Orders, reverses several policies of Donald Trump
Should read- China puts sanctions on several US Officials including former State Secy Mike Pompeo

TRCSG’s operability in the region directly supports the Chief of Naval Operation’s navigation plan to master all-domain fleet operations and exercise with like-minded navies to enhance our collective strength.

7th Fleet is the U.S. Navy's largest forward-deployed fleet and employs 50 to 70 ships and submarines across the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans. 7th Fleet routinely operates and interacts with 35 maritime nations while conducting missions to preserve and protect a free and open Indo-Pacific region.

Theodore Roosevelt’s embarked air wing consists of the “Tomcatters” of Strike Fighter Squadrons (VFA) 31, “Golden Warriors” of VFA-87, “Blue Diamonds” of VFA-146, “Black Knights” of VFA-154, “Liberty Bells” of Airborne Command and Control Squadron (VAW) 115, “The Gray Wolves” of Electronic Attack Squadron (VAQ) 142, “Wolf Pack” of Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 75, “Eightballers” of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 8 and “Providers” of Fleet Logistic Support Squadron (VRC) 30 Detachment 3.

Theodore Roosevelt departed San Diego for a scheduled deployment to the Indo-Pacific on December 23.
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15 Chinese Aircraft Enter Taiwan Air Defense Zone For 2nd Day As US Carrier Roosevelt Approaches
15 Chinese Aircraft Enter Taiwan Air Defense Zone For 2nd Day As US Carrier Roosevelt Approaches
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by Tyler Durden
Sunday, Jan 24, 2021 - 11:38
During the final months of the Trump administration Chinese military exercises near Taiwan grew as part of the tit-for-tat escalation of Washington moves in support of the self-declared Republic. However, in a show of (preemptive) force against the new Biden admin, which echoed Mike Pompeo in accusing China of committing genocide against Uyghurs - an allegation that Beijing will not gloss over - Chinese hostilities in the vicinity of Taiwan have escalated dramatically. And on Sunday, just one day after China's military undertook one of its biggest Taiwan "flyovers" yet (and just days following President Joe Biden's entry into the White House), Chinese air force planes including 12 fighter jets entered Taiwan’s air defense identification zone (ADIZ) for a second day.

As we reported yesterday, China’s activities over the weekend mark a ratcheting up with fighters and bombers being dispatched rather than reconnaissance aircraft as had generally been the case in recent weeks. On Saturday, eight Chinese bomber planes, four fighter jets and anti-submarine aircraft one flew into Taiwan’s defense zone on Saturday, between mainland Taiwan and the Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands in the South China Sea. Then, on Sunday, a further 15 flew into the same air space on Sunday.
Taiwan’s Defense Ministry said China sent six J-10 fighters, four J-16s, two SU-30s, a Y-8 reconnaissance aircraft and two Y-8 anti-submarine aircrat, adding that Taiwan’s air force was sent up to respond.
"Airborne alert sorties had been tasked, radio warnings issued and air defense missile systems deployed to monitor the activity," the ministry said.

A map provided by Taiwan’s defense ministry showed that the Chinese aircraft flew over the same waters where the most recent Chinese missions have been taking place near the Pratas Islands, though still well away from mainland Taiwan.
Source: Guardian
And so with fighter jets from both countries now on the verge of engaging above Taiwan's ADIZ, we are one false flag "accidental" missile discharge from all out war.
While China has yet to comment, It has previously said such actions are aimed at defending the country’s sovereignty and designed to act as a warning against “collusion” between the United States and Taiwan.
As Reuters notes, the move is likely to further concern Washington, which on Saturday urged China to stop pressuring Taiwan and reaffirmed its commitment to the island and desire to deepen ties.

Meanwhile, in a potential harbinger of a far bigger conflict, earlier on Sunday, the US military said that a US aircraft carrier group led by the USS Theodore Roosevelt had entered the disputed South China Sea to promote “freedom of the seas”, and to also telegraph the US preparedness to support Taiwan in a worst case scenario.

The United States, like most countries, has no formal diplomatic ties with Taiwan, but is bound by law to provide the island with the means to defend itself. In a final swipe at China, the Trump administration’s outgoing UN ambassador tweeted that it’s time for the world to oppose China’s efforts to exclude and isolate Taiwan, drawing sharp criticism from Beijing.
Ambassador Kelly Craft accompanied the tweet with a photo of herself in the UN general assembly hall, from where the island is banned. She carried a handbag with a stuffed Taiwan bear sticking out of the top, a gift from Taiwan’s representative in New York, James Lee.

And while Biden’s administration has rushed to undo much of Trump's legacy, it has shown little sign of reducing pressure on China, although it is seen as favoring a return to more civil dialogue. In another sign of support for Taiwan, the island’s de-facto ambassador to Washington, Hsiao Bi-khim, was an invited guest at Biden’s inauguration.
President Biden’s newly sworn-in administration on Saturday reaffirmed the US’s “rock-solid” commitment to helping Taiwan defend itself in its first comments on the sensitive territorial dispute, noting “with concern the pattern of [China’s] ongoing attempts to intimidate its neighbours, including Taiwan."
"We urge Beijing to cease its military, diplomatic, and economic pressure against Taiwan and instead engage in meaningful dialogue with Taiwan’s democratically elected representatives,” State Department spokesperson Ned Price said in the statement.

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U.S. carrier group enters South China Sea amid Taiwan tensions https://nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-carrier-group-enters-south-china-sea-amid-taiwan-n1255447
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Jan. 24, 2021, 4:35 AM CST
By Reuters
TAIPEI — A U.S. aircraft carrier group led by the USS Theodore Roosevelt has entered the South China Sea to promote “freedom of the seas," the U.S. military said on Sunday, at a time when tensions between China and Taiwan have raised concern in Washington.
U.S. Indo-Pacific Command said in a statement the strike group entered the South China Sea on Saturday, the same day Taiwan reported a large incursion of Chinese bombers and fighter jets into its air defence identification zone in the vicinity of the Pratas Islands.

Eight Chinese bomber planes and four fighter jets entered the zone, and Taiwan’s air force deployed missiles to “monitor” the incursion, the island’s defense ministry said, prompting the U.S. State Department to urge China to stop pressuring Taiwan.
The U.S. military said the carrier strike group was in the South China Sea, a large part of which is claimed by China, to conduct routine operations “to ensure freedom of the seas, build partnerships that foster maritime security."
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“After sailing through these waters throughout my 30-year career, it’s great to be in the South China Sea again, conducting routine operations, promoting freedom of the seas, and reassuring allies and partners,” Rear Adm. Doug Verissimo, commander of the strike group, was quoted as saying.
“With two-thirds of the world’s trade travelling through this very important region, it is vital that we maintain our presence and continue to promote the rules-based order which has allowed us all to prosper,” Verissimo said in the statement.
The announcement comes just days after Joe Biden was sworn in as U.S. president.
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Biden’s nominee for secretary of state, Antony Blinken, told his Senate confirmation hearing on Tuesday there was “no doubt” China posed the most significant challenge to the United States of any nation.
China has repeatedly complained about U.S. Navy ships getting close to Chinese-occupied islands in the South China Sea, where Vietnam, Malaysia, the Philippines, Brunei and Taiwan all have competing claims.
The Theodore Roosevelt is being accompanied by the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill, and the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Russell and USS John Finn, the U.S. statement said.



Is China Militarizing in the South China Sea?
July 6, 201600:37

In a bold movement on Friday, China authorized its coast guard to fire on foreign vessels and destroy structures on features it claims, potentially raising the possibility of clashes with regional maritime rivals.
The Coast Guard Law empowers the force to "take all necessary measures, including the use of weapons, when national sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction are being illegally infringed upon by foreign organizations or individuals at sea."
The law also authorizes the coast guard to demolish other countries' structures built on reefs and islands claimed by China and to seize or order foreign vessels illegally entering China's territorial waters to leave.
Reuters
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U.S. carrier group enters South China Sea amid Taiwan tensions

The U.S. military said the carrier strike group was in the South China Sea to conduct routine operations “to ensure freedom of the seas."
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Nothing like a war to deflect American's attention from the carnage Traitor Joe is unleashing upon the US.
 
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Is there time for Taiwan to hook up with India? What's in it for India- and why would it be either or proposition..unless it was negotiated as such.

:shk: ..Now I'm reading the .gov statement with a jaded eye, though- simple enough to decide that the taiwanese want China? Perhaps they'll put it to a vote, eh
The United States will continue to support a peaceful resolution of cross-strait issues, consistent with the wishes and best interests of the people on Taiwan.
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China going full bore asshole at this time only highlights the charges that Biden is owned lock stock and barrel by jyna.
 
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jward said:
Is there time for Taiwan to hook up with India? What's in it for India- and why would it be either or proposition..unless it was negotiated as such.

:shk: ..Now I'm reading the .gov statement with a jaded eye, though- simple enough to decide that the taiwanese want China? Perhaps they'll put it to a vote, eh


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An interlocked trade and defense agreement would be helpful to both. If Taiwan were to give India the ability to run their diesel electric subs out of the island, it would give India as big of a defense boost as the CCP has with their relationship with Pakistan, which in turn helps Taiwan. Throw in high tech trade deals into that which involved shifting business and manufacturing to India from plants in the PRC established before Xi came into power and it's a win win. If the two went in on a "two key" agreement all the more so.
 
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